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Loretta Fuddy's Brother Sues Over Fatal Crash
Star Advertiser ^ | Jun 09, 2014

Posted on 06/09/2014 2:13:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Lewis Fuddy Jr.'s Loretta Fuddy died of an irregular heartbeat that was triggered when the plane she was riding in lost power and crash-landed off the Hawaiian island of Molokai in December.

A engine manufacturer in Canada is to blame for a small plane's ocean landing and the death of Hawaii's former health director, her brother said in a lawsuit filed Monday.

Lewis Fuddy Jr. is suing Pratt & Whitney Canada Corp. and Makani Kai Air Charters over the Dec. 11 crash-landing. His 65-year-old sister Loretta Fuddy was a passenger on the flight and died of an irregular heartbeat, police said, that was triggered when the plane lost power and crash-landed off the Hawaiian island of Molokai in December.

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1 posted on 06/09/2014 2:13:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; humblegunner; shibumi

Uh oh. Hoping that this doesn’t turn into a conspiracy thread, with wild insinuations that some Fuddy business is going on ....


2 posted on 06/09/2014 2:16:42 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh,just geez... Elmer Fuddy trying for a payoff. If there hadn’t been a plane crash, her A-Fib wouldn’t have hurt her.


3 posted on 06/09/2014 2:17:15 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: nickcarraway

Fuddy better keep a close eye on his brake lines. Just saying.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 2:19:01 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: nickcarraway
Hmmm. Ron Brown, Vince Foster and, now, Loretta Fuddy. Hmmm.
5 posted on 06/09/2014 2:36:15 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: nickcarraway
Single engine Cessna, and a Pratt/Whitney engine: it must have been a Cessna Caravan.

I hope they recovered the engine for examination. It would be interesting to find out the reason for the failure.

The engine in the Caravan is derated to less than the engine's max power, so it runs cooler and with less stress. It's very unusual for a turboprop to fail suddenly with no warning.

6 posted on 06/09/2014 2:37:22 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: nickcarraway
I think a court would conclude that this was in the aircraft manufacturer's zone of reasonable foreseeability. (See, e.g, Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad Co.) Now if she had died upon impact that would be a horse of a different color.
7 posted on 06/09/2014 2:49:54 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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To: justlurking

Turboprops are extremely reliable, and rarely fail. But, anything made by man is less than perfect.

What puzzles me is how they can tell she died of an irregular heartbeat without some kind of monitor on her at the time of death. Even if she had a history of arrhythmia, how would they determine it had caused her death?

Sounds suspicious, but would love to hear from any physicians here who can answer my question.......


8 posted on 06/09/2014 2:51:11 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: KevinB
Correction: I think a court would conclude that this was not in the aircraft manufacturer's zone of reasonable foreseeability.
9 posted on 06/09/2014 2:51:13 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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To: nickcarraway

I predict a gag order by judge on WH orders,....yupyupyup


10 posted on 06/09/2014 2:55:22 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: justlurking

I’ve been in a small plane when the engine cut out. Kinda scary to say the least. Luckily it restarted and we landed ok. My point is that I have more confidence in a small plane drifting in for a landing than I do a 777. Big planes make me nervous. So was this just a dead engine or total control failure. I don’t remember the story now.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 2:55:52 PM PDT by enraged
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To: Arlis
What puzzles me is how they can tell she died of an irregular heartbeat without some kind of monitor on her at the time of death. Even if she had a history of arrhythmia, how would they determine it had caused her death?

That has been my question all along. How do you determine unusual rhythm in something which is at rest? (Maybe that's the unusual rhythm they are referring to.)

12 posted on 06/09/2014 2:58:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: enraged
My point is that I have more confidence in a small plane drifting in for a landing than I do a 777.

I took a few lessons in a Cessna 152 a few years ago. We did engine-out drills where the instructor cuts the engine at about 1500 feet and the pilot has to cork screw the plane down towards a suitable landing area. I was absolutely stunned by how long it took the plane to get down. As long as they are intact planes desperately want to fly.

13 posted on 06/09/2014 3:01:37 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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To: Arlis

It’s said to be a diagnosis of elimination. After everything that can be checked—heart attack, drowning, etc.—has been eliminated, they go with arrhythmia as the most likely cause. There would never be any way to prove it; it’s more or less a catch-all diagnosis when no demonstrable cause can be determined.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 3:04:52 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Servant of the Cross

15 posted on 06/09/2014 3:06:57 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: nickcarraway

Well, yes, most metal when heated tends to expand. PT-6’s are as reliable as a bunson burner. P&W has been making them for a thousands years so I gotta guess that they know enough to set the clearances to account for expansion. A loud bang could mean a blade root failure or a gear box failure of some kind.

A thorough look at the maintenance logs will tell them how many hours since the last major overhaul. Now if someone has run things past the recommended TBO well, that would be a problem for the operator, not P&W


16 posted on 06/09/2014 3:12:51 PM PDT by technically right
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To: nickcarraway; humblegunner; onyx; null and void; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; ...

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Pinging.

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17 posted on 06/09/2014 3:17:43 PM PDT by LucyT (If you're not paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: Servant of the Cross; humblegunner; nickcarraway


18 posted on 06/09/2014 3:18:29 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: enraged

A passenger video was filmed from the ditching, through the cabin egress...controlled flight ‘til the last piece stopped.


19 posted on 06/09/2014 3:18:34 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

What do YOU see?

20 posted on 06/09/2014 3:32:59 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: KevinB

Makani Kai Air Charters has been in business since 1998, and this is their first accident. Everyone survived except Fuddy, who apparently had a heart condition. I wonder if she had been diagnosed with a heart condition, and if so what kind of treatment or medication was she taking?


21 posted on 06/09/2014 3:58:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: nickcarraway; WildHighlander57; maggief; LucyT

Discovery should be interesting ;-)


22 posted on 06/09/2014 3:58:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I believe enzymes are released into the bloodstream during the event. These enzymes can be detected postmortem.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 4:06:03 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: smokingfrog

Her brother claims she had no heart condition, & was healthy. I guess he never noticed she was obese & likely sedentary? Anyway, people speculate she might not have mentioned any/all the health issues she may have had with her brother. Only her personal physician could say for sure.

“Loretta’s brother, Lewis P. Fuddy Jr., says that his sister was healthy, that she had no heart problems and that she was not a stressed or fearful person. He said that she was a very calm person and had to be given her job.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3139362/posts


24 posted on 06/09/2014 4:07:35 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: LucyT; melancholy

I was wondering when someone would file a lawsuit.

Also interesting comment for the attorney, Richard Fried. “She should be alive,” he said. “This is an engine that Pratt & Whitney knew had problems.”

Doesn’t sound like her brother knew anything about her having any heart problems.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 4:10:52 PM PDT by azishot
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To: nickcarraway

I can’t say that I blame him.


26 posted on 06/09/2014 4:12:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: humblegunner
What do YOU see?

Either those are GIANT sliced peaches, or they are normal sized, and the green monster is much smaller than he appears at first sight.

27 posted on 06/09/2014 4:13:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway

he should demand the HI-RES go-pro video that was shot.

and make it public.

the low-res version seems to show a guy in a wet suit surface next to lorena before she dies.

also, how did the news media know one person has died... 30 minutes before any first responders show up?


28 posted on 06/09/2014 4:15:20 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: immadashell

I scratch my head wondering how they could land/crash in an area where scuba diver(s) moved Fuddy away from the group. I too think she is in the Foster, Brown and O’bame gramme grouping.


29 posted on 06/09/2014 4:24:18 PM PDT by mcshot (..."And this too shall pass.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

30 posted on 06/09/2014 4:27:15 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cicero
Either those are GIANT sliced peaches,

You have fallen for the Scam.

Those are clearly MANGOES and the fact that you think they are peaches just means that you are a part of the effort to cover up the reality and Chemtrails.

31 posted on 06/09/2014 4:28:33 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; shibumi
Fuddy was attacked by water moles.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 4:29:13 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: justlurking

think out of gas


33 posted on 06/09/2014 4:30:48 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: 50mm

That’s clearly fake.

You haven’t been cleared to see the “Badger Badger Badger” disclosure.

It ain’t pretty.


34 posted on 06/09/2014 4:31:52 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
That’s clearly fake.

Says the guy who doesn't believe in fluoride-laced zombifying chemtrails.

35 posted on 06/09/2014 4:35:55 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: justlurking

In 30-plus years the NTSB had investigated 2 cases of commercial Cessna 208B’s having catastrophic engine failures (neither of them related to overheating). Then 3 days after Doug Vogt named Loretta Fuddy as a defendant in a criminal complaint there was a Cessna crash. Within 50 days and 25 miles of that crash there was ANOTHER crash - this one the only one of ANY of these Cessna crashes that resulted in a death, and that after Fuddy was already out of the water and bobbing safely in the water in a life jacket, according to witnesses at the time. In the video of the crash, there are about 10 extra people seen in the water in the first minutes after the crash - before the first help arrived about an hour after the crash. And the official reports are fraught with serious discrepancies.

In both of these very recent cases in HI, the NTSB allowed the air company to access the planes after the crash in spite of NTSB requirements that the sites be treated as crime scenes. And when Makani Kai (the company who owned the Fuddy Cessna) finally lifted the Fuddy Cessna from the water a week after the crash, the fuselage was in tatters, with the engine completely pulled away from the rest of the plane. It had been resting on a shelf 60-70 feet underwater, below the action of the waves.


36 posted on 06/09/2014 5:00:37 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: smokingfrog

Fuddy’s brother, on the day the “cause of death” was released, said she had no heart condition and was healthy as a horse. He was puzzled by that finding for the COD.


37 posted on 06/09/2014 5:05:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: justlurking

Probably a turbine blade failure.

There have actually been quite a few of them over the years. Like this one

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mk33A-yXa34


38 posted on 06/09/2014 5:21:03 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: butterdezillion

Any chance she never talked about it with him or that she herself was unaware that she had a problem?

I know that sounds crazy but stranger things have happened in families.

She was a tad overweight and 65 years old.


39 posted on 06/09/2014 5:26:00 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
Both scenarios are possible, but without the crash, would she have died on that day?

Imho, this is much like the bank robbery gone bad, where the person who drove the getaway car is considered to be as culpable as the person who shot the bank guard.

40 posted on 06/09/2014 5:29:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

“would she have died on that day?”

IMO, I doubt it. The engine failure combined with a crash landing in the water was probably enough to practically scare her to death. People die from heart attacks during earthquakes and tornadoes even thought they were not physically hurt by either.


41 posted on 06/09/2014 5:37:30 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Exactly, but a case might be made for that very reason, and a jury might find it compelling. We shall see.


42 posted on 06/09/2014 5:41:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I agree, but I would be surprised if a jury ever sees it. The brother will probably get an out of court settlement.


43 posted on 06/09/2014 5:53:11 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

That’s very possible.


44 posted on 06/09/2014 5:54:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: justlurking

Here are several, all Cessna Caravans 208,

Findings
1. COMPRESSOR ASSEMBLY,BLADE - SEPARATION

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/k141bvqpenseyp55gdquf2451/D06092014120000.pdf

The engine examination revealed a failure of the engine gas generator initiating from a compressor turbine blade separation.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/3buwiomwi2xskcnbwhjolj451/C06092014120000.pdf

The engine examination revealed mechanical and thermal damage to the turbine section of the engine.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/d2mpws45bbtlil45zymgst451/M06092014120000.pdf

...revealed that a blade on the first stage compressor rotor failed as a result of a fatigue fracture.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/mk5qwrrv2qz4h0ymurnt5beg1/J06092014120000.pdf


45 posted on 06/09/2014 6:41:38 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

If so, VERY suspicious........


46 posted on 06/09/2014 7:37:33 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: 50mm; humblegunner
"Fuddy was attacked by water moles."

What are their FReeper names?

47 posted on 06/09/2014 7:55:11 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: humblegunner
What do YOU see?
I see that you like to belittle conservative patriots whose opinions differ from your own. I see that you are inexplicably immune to the no-personal-attacks rule on Free Republic. Your post sarcastically belittles an extremely decent, dedicated and conservative person who has not even posted to this thread (at least as far as I have read, which is your message to which I am replying).

Are you the least bit ashamed of your (in my opinion) cruel, caddish behavior?

48 posted on 06/09/2014 10:12:00 PM PDT by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

If the Fuddys would only join with the Duddys


49 posted on 06/09/2014 10:16:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Ray76

There are no enzymes specific to a rhythm problem. It would be the diagnosis I would go with if there was nothing else found. It would be more likely if she had a history of rhythm problems in the past.


50 posted on 06/09/2014 10:22:45 PM PDT by Mom MD
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