Skip to comments.Pot tax collections booming in Colorado
Posted on 06/09/2014 9:30:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Colorados marijuana market boomed in April as tens of thousands celebrated the once-underground 4/20 pot holiday. [ ]
An estimate from the Colorado Department of Revenue showed that Colorado made about $5.3 million from medical and recreational pot taxes and fees in April. Thats up from about $5 million in March.
Colorado made no estimate of 4/20 visitors. But pot shops in Denver had long lines the whole weekend, and at least 30,000 flocked to a city park to mark the marijuana celebration.
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Getting the dummies high and taking their money! What a government!
Those revenues are peanuts compared to savings for:
Less prison staff
Less public defenders
Less court buildings
I remember watching state lotteries spread across the country. I guess this will be the same. Give legal pot one decade to spread to every state.
Yes, but because of the legalization scheme, drug criminals have entered the legal market as licensed sellers.
As with gambling, the revenue stream has to be taken out of blood veins elsewhere in the economy.
more drug rehabs
more ER visits
more deaths due to weed induced accidents
more hospital beds
more bus/taxi/train/plane accidents
if someone is drinking...you know it...the odor...the look...the perceptive ability... but on weed, etc...you might not know....you might send your kid on a bus whose driver is smoked......
Colorado is going to pot. (Badoom tish!)
Of course...but criminals will have to compete with law abiding as added competition. WHen pot is illegal, ALL profits go to criminals.
Folks who are bent in finding solace in a substance can be induced to switch substances (I’ve heard that at the founding of America, liquor use was crazy high), but the genuine answer is spiritual/theological.
true, street pot dealing will fall.
Conjecture! There is no evidence to support your claims.
Personally I do not even drink alcohol and never smoked pot or tried any illegal drugs. However I believe there should be freedom to pursue your own lifestyle. I am against big government intruding in any of my life style choices.
Every one of my claims is obvious. No need for cops and prisons to jail pot smokers.
I can refute some your claims based on pure common sense. When anything is illegal, it costs more on the black market. If pot can be purchased at Walmart it will be cheaper and less need to commit robberies and burglaries.
The real hole in your claims is that anyone who wants to use pot where it is illegal is already getting it. Do you know of any person who is unable to buy illegal pot? One can buy pot in every corner of every city in the USA. So your claim that it will need additional health services is baseless.
There is something called cyclic vomiting syndrome highly associated with marijuana use. It takes up a lot of resources in the ED as these people tend to be frequent flyers.
Then there is the case of the guy who tried a marijuana edible and became very paranoid and killed his wife while she was calling 911. Or the kid who died falling off a building with his marijuana experience. Yes legal marijuana use has costly unintended consequences.
The only good news to this is the brain dead liberals will be even deader, and so the non libs will take over.
Usual note to self: When selling 30 round AK and AR magazines out of the trunk of your car, DO NOT EAT THE LOCAL PRODUCE! Bring your own food from out of state.
Not true. Illegal sales are up because now if you’re caught with it in CO nothing is done, but it’s still cheaper on the street then in the Starbucks looking pot shop with added taxes.
Was that supposed to be a “BaDaBing”?
If it was it’s bad form to give yourself a BaDaBing. :)
Why does that sound like it’s not much?
And hopefully this will lead to lower taxes, especially for the middle and working classes and small farmers.
This is going to be mighty tempting for the politicians of all the other states to follow suit.
I hope at least some of them will be wise enough to wait until the Colorado and Washington experiment (which I don’t mind) is further along, to get answers the following questions...
- Does the number of users increase?
- What is the impact on:
* jail population
* traffic accidents
* employer’s experience with workers using pot
* school attendance, performance
* birth rates
* use of harder drugs
* state finances
And other unintended and unforeseen consequences.
I would want to give that experiment at least 10 years and then see whether:
1. it is harmless, like the libs and pot head claim (I may be repeating myself)
2. A net positive, like the libertarians claim
3. A net negative, like conservatives claim
Anybody want to make an early guess as to the outcome?
That's Colorado's fault not the pot's fault
But it is not a BaDaBing. It is a Badoom Tish.
Colorado, I will happily watch them melt down as they deserve
How is the state going to get the money?
Last I heard, while pot may be legal in Colorado and Washington, the pot shops have an impossible time getting banking facilities under Federal rules.
Maybe that has changed, I don’t know.
Probably no melt down. Just slow rot along with everybody else.
I smoked pot daily from 1971 to 1984
Never ever did what you claim to me...never once felt unpleasant actually
How many pot warriors here have ever smoked it?
Its hilarious....you guys hate the folks who smoke it...you think they are all libs
Yet we have drink and get drunk threads and folks bragging about being tipsy here like its aok
Alcohol is exponentially more negatively consequential worldwide yet folks here who have never smoked marijuana in their life rail on rabidly from the perch of self righteousness
Likewise I have a friend in Traverse City MI right now dying of alcohol abuse related colon cancer who was told at age 47 he’s down to 3 months yet marijuana is all besides groggy phenagran that helps with chemo and avastin nausea....should he be deprived legal med weed to sate the reefer madness types here....and BTW...he’s a brave stoic some beach....inspiring...just wants enough energy day by day to keep restoring his cherry 57
And yes he detests Obama.....used to work in West Virginia mining
Pot is everywhere and has been for 40 years legalization doesn’t change that
And so far the price is still the same legal as illegal
Why not prohibit alcohol since folks here are so obsessed about public safety...naked girls too...another freeperdom bogeyman
Alienating right wing pot smokers does nothing for us.
You are partially correct though....ingesting THC products is an easy way to over intoxicate and folks don’t wait long enough and then take more when they shouldn’t
Alcohol kills 75000 folks a year in USA
Marihuana ...none from the drug itself but one can probably find some from impaired motor skills and accidents
So it goes back to my premise....those Freepers who rail over this equate pot smokers with leftism
And therefore they must not live in Dixie nor have they smoked much I’d wager....I know at least 100 right wing pot users
What do I think on legalization....against it...but in complete favor of decriminalization down to nuisance level
I have first offense friends with zero history of violence who have been in federal prison since the mid 80s for marijuana smuggling from Jamaica and Colombia
None of your pot warriors will ever convince me that draconian so called justice is just or conservative or should be espoused by those who love liberty
It has not changed....even medical pot giant Harbour Lights has issues finding banks that will handle their accounts due to DEA threats
The Feds hate losing this beaureaucratic goldmine that has been feeding gift careers and govt unions and advancing prosecutorial careers for 50 years now
Boo hoo cry me a river
They are barely less offensive than BATF in my book
And RICO and highway confiscations
Do Freepers really like all these encroachments?
The founders would not have but who cares about those old white guys anymore....
Liberal government doesn’t care where it gets the money from, only that it gets it.
It never saw a fee, transfer tax, sales tax, SPLOST, bond tax, income tax, school assessment tax, property tax, use fee, licensing fee or any other money stealing scheme that has ever existed that it did not like and use.
Thank you. I thought it hadn’t changed, but you know how it is - its a big world and you only get so much time to read.
And I agree. Law enforcement no longer is, nor has been for some years, “To protect and serve.” Both the laws written and the enforcers of said laws are mainly in it for the greenbacks. Or the kickbacks.
Never understood why the DEA were created in the first place. They do the same job as BAFT.
When whom they protect and serve is unspoken, then there are problems.
I was just saying that you said illegal sales had gone down and that hasn’t been the case.
This country has gone to pot.
The pot you smoked in the 70s is very different than what is available now. I was answering the comment that there are no increased medical costs etc with MJ, and that is simply not true. I see it all the time in the ED. You can be for or against legalized mj, but you cant ignore facts
As the mother of a substance abuse addicted child, and raising a granddaughter because both parents were using spice, a synthetic mj during pregnancy, I hate the legalization of this gateway drug. It makes kids think it is OK to get into drugs. My granddaughter was born dangerously underweight and still struggles in some areas due to moms drug use, and yet even after losing their child, both kids think mj is not harmful and that it even cures cancer. So dont tell me how wonderful your experience with mj was or how it didnt harm you - some people play with fire and get away unscathed. But that doesnt make fire any less dangerous.
I was thinking something along those lines. The pot today is very potent.
To them, the ends (keeping their phoney baloney jobs!) justify the means, always.
With more tax money, they can pay more gibsmedats, and have their own Free S**t Army come elections.
Between the stoners and the FSA, they are a shoo-in.
Pity, Colorado was a really nice state 30-40 years ago.
We were in Colorado a few days ago and got to see what happens when potheads feel free to be stoned in the great outdoors. In Manitou Springs we watched a guys surfing on a curb stop while dancing. He wiped out.
Next thing you know is they will devise a scheme where the public can buy a ticket with a series of random numbers for a chance to win millions of dollars so they can escape the hell holes they live in. Of course they’ll set the odds astronomically high and the give you the option of taking a lump sum payout that’s less than half of the pot or give you a check every year for 30 years. Plus they will tell you the money goes to pay for the chitlins be schools. They’ll call this a lottery...
What about Colorado’s responsibilities to neighboring states where law enforcement problems are multiplying because of Colorado’s legal marijuana?
You’re blaming pot for issues in your family that were not caused by pot but by something completely different from pot that was intended to get one high but which is extremely toxic
That’s like blaming alcohol for someone drinking Sterno who hoped it would feel like a nice pinot..
BTW...I never said pot was always harmless but it sure never once made me vomit
And we had hashish and skunk sensebud and hash oil in late 70s.....which rivaled average pot today which is mid teens THC %...yes some exotics hit mid 20s...trash weed was done by 1976 in the deep south
Its like comparing beer to whiskey..in fact the difference is far greater in those libations....drink less or smoke less
Gateway is booze and nicotine as much as pot...more so in my view and the national cost and damage much higher so why not the same zeal to ban those?
I’m sure we can find things harmful about pot abuse....I can name some off my head I’ve observed in some folks....apathy...procrastinate...lowered cognitive skills when high....lower sex drive in men......oppositional personality....laziness....
Now compare that to any other drug legal or not and pot is dead last in harmfulness in my experience of smoking and observing it
And conservatives here picking a fight with at least one third of their own kind is foolish
As for me...my only addiction is a good woman’s affection
But I detest loudmouth irrational belligerent drunks fools far more than goofy blase stoners
But yet like I said getting a buzz on from drinking is celebrated here
I do drink folded southern egg not and Cointreau
Maybe some red wine...I let Wifey do the drinking
I’m always the DD in any outing here
But I’d smoke pot today privately with her if she wanted to
I consider the medical marijuana schemes as practiced in some states an exploited farce....folks getting rich
A few states tightly control dispensation and I don’t include them
Dude. And I do mean dude. Smoke anything you want and talk yourself into not feeling guilty any way you want. I take exception to your saying there are no negative health consequences to mj, I’ve seen them and know a fair amount about the human body. Defend your behavior anyway you want, I dont care. But sell your argument somewhere else, I aint buying.
I don’t need your approval hon.....my wife’s at this stage are all I ask for but I made it rather clear I haven’t smoked it in 30 years ...lol...but I might after reading all the crazy stuff I read here
And nowhere did I say there were no negative health concerns but after 40 years of at least 30-40 million Americans smoking it regularly the health concerns pale in comparison to any other drug folks use to intoxicate themselves
Particularly drinking when one drinks to effect.
Conservatism is about empiricism and the Constitution and a level of morality
The hysterics here are about the perception of who smokes pot rather than the drug since the loudest barkers...not you admittedly ....have never used it
I have yet to see a pot smoker here past or present rail on with this reefer madness line of reasoning
Have you smoked it?
When you have and know what you are talking about beyond anecdotal observation then get back to me
I rest my case.
In fact, you listed a number of negative consequences in pot #44 - but apparently Drug Warriors would rather debate the voices in their heads.
I don’t get the zealous hatred of the evil weed here
To me anyhow