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Pot tax collections booming in Colorado
Associated Press ^ | Jun 9, 2014 7:18 PM EDT | Kristen Wyatt

Posted on 06/09/2014 9:30:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Colorado’s marijuana market boomed in April as tens of thousands celebrated the once-underground 4/20 pot holiday. […]

An estimate from the Colorado Department of Revenue showed that Colorado made about $5.3 million from medical and recreational pot taxes and fees in April. That’s up from about $5 million in March.

Colorado made no estimate of 4/20 visitors. But pot shops in Denver had long lines the whole weekend, and at least 30,000 flocked to a city park to mark the marijuana celebration. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 420; cannabis; liberalagenda; taxes; wod
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1 posted on 06/09/2014 9:30:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Getting the dummies high and taking their money! What a government!


2 posted on 06/09/2014 9:42:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Olog-hai

Those revenues are peanuts compared to savings for:

Less prisons
Less prison staff
Less cops
Less judges
Less bailiffs
Less public defenders
Less court buildings


3 posted on 06/09/2014 9:50:51 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: Olog-hai

I remember watching state lotteries spread across the country. I guess this will be the same. Give legal pot one decade to spread to every state.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 9:53:01 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: entropy12
Those revenues are peanuts compared to savings for:

Yes, but because of the legalization scheme, drug criminals have entered the legal market as licensed sellers.

5 posted on 06/09/2014 9:59:52 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Olog-hai
Dopers on parade. What a proud sight.
6 posted on 06/09/2014 10:04:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Olog-hai

As with gambling, the revenue stream has to be taken out of blood veins elsewhere in the economy.


7 posted on 06/09/2014 10:10:46 PM PDT by lurk
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To: entropy12

more drug rehabs
more ER visits
more deaths due to weed induced accidents
more nurses
mored doctors
more hospital beds
more bus/taxi/train/plane accidents
more crime
more violence...


8 posted on 06/09/2014 10:11:08 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
there is not a one person in our local detox facility that does not also use weed....their random urine tests prove it...however, there are actually people in there who abuse heroin who never drink.....

if someone is drinking...you know it...the odor...the look...the perceptive ability... but on weed, etc...you might not know....you might send your kid on a bus whose driver is smoked......

9 posted on 06/09/2014 10:14:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Olog-hai

Colorado is going to pot. (Badoom tish!)


10 posted on 06/09/2014 10:17:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: umgud

Of course...but criminals will have to compete with law abiding as added competition. WHen pot is illegal, ALL profits go to criminals.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 10:19:29 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: cherry

Folks who are bent in finding solace in a substance can be induced to switch substances (I’ve heard that at the founding of America, liquor use was crazy high), but the genuine answer is spiritual/theological.


12 posted on 06/09/2014 10:20:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: entropy12

true, street pot dealing will fall.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 10:20:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: cherry

Conjecture! There is no evidence to support your claims.
Personally I do not even drink alcohol and never smoked pot or tried any illegal drugs. However I believe there should be freedom to pursue your own lifestyle. I am against big government intruding in any of my life style choices.

Every one of my claims is obvious. No need for cops and prisons to jail pot smokers.

I can refute some your claims based on pure common sense. When anything is illegal, it costs more on the black market. If pot can be purchased at Walmart it will be cheaper and less need to commit robberies and burglaries.

The real hole in your claims is that anyone who wants to use pot where it is illegal is already getting it. Do you know of any person who is unable to buy illegal pot? One can buy pot in every corner of every city in the USA. So your claim that it will need additional health services is baseless.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 10:29:40 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: Olog-hai
The mexican drug cartels are going to have to step up their game if they still want to compete. Expect more robberies and murders at growing operations and dispensaries in the near future. Low fruit ripe for the picking.
15 posted on 06/09/2014 10:29:46 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: entropy12

There is something called cyclic vomiting syndrome highly associated with marijuana use. It takes up a lot of resources in the ED as these people tend to be frequent flyers.
Then there is the case of the guy who tried a marijuana edible and became very paranoid and killed his wife while she was calling 911. Or the kid who died falling off a building with his marijuana experience. Yes legal marijuana use has costly unintended consequences.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 10:36:24 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Olog-hai

The only good news to this is the brain dead liberals will be even deader, and so the non libs will take over.


17 posted on 06/09/2014 10:44:03 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Olog-hai

Usual note to self: When selling 30 round AK and AR magazines out of the trunk of your car, DO NOT EAT THE LOCAL PRODUCE! Bring your own food from out of state.


18 posted on 06/09/2014 10:49:03 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Olog-hai
There was a time when I didn't care either way if Pot was legal or not. But in working with HS kids I've recently decided I'm against legalization. With it being legal in some states, kids see this as meaning acceptable. I've had kids tell me flat out that they smoke because it's going to be legal here anyway so what's the big deal? I've seen them go from productive and active to potheads in a short period of time. We have more emergency calls then ever before in my little town and in the increased cases smoking pot is usually involved. And about the tax revenue thing— kids can't buy it legally and many others won't pay the extra taxes. Illegal sales have gone up, not decreased. My daughters childhood friend got so stoned she woke up somewhere not knowing what happened to her or how she got there. When rumors spread around school she took an entire bottle of Tylenol and posted it on Facebook. A parent saw it and called 9/11. She was hospitalized for three weeks. Now back home she's quit school and is high almost everyday. She considers my daughter a “prude”. It's now becoming “cooler” in HS to be a stoner then an athlete. It's sad. A stupid kid goes out and gets drunk and throws up all day the next day usually decides I don't want to feel this way everyday. Kids that smoke tend to think it's ok to get high several days a week regularly.
19 posted on 06/09/2014 11:19:03 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not true. Illegal sales are up because now if you’re caught with it in CO nothing is done, but it’s still cheaper on the street then in the Starbucks looking pot shop with added taxes.


20 posted on 06/09/2014 11:23:07 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“(Badoom tish!)”??

Was that supposed to be a “BaDaBing”?

If it was it’s bad form to give yourself a BaDaBing. :)


21 posted on 06/09/2014 11:27:38 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Olog-hai

Why does that sound like it’s not much?


22 posted on 06/09/2014 11:29:31 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: entropy12; All

And hopefully this will lead to lower taxes, especially for the middle and working classes and small farmers.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 11:38:45 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

dream on


24 posted on 06/09/2014 11:57:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Olog-hai; entropy12; cherry; factoryrat; MacMattico

This is going to be mighty tempting for the politicians of all the other states to follow suit.

I hope at least some of them will be wise enough to wait until the Colorado and Washington experiment (which I don’t mind) is further along, to get answers the following questions...

- Does the number of users increase?
- What is the impact on:
* crime
* jail population
* traffic accidents
* employer’s experience with workers using pot
* school attendance, performance
* birth rates
* use of harder drugs
* state finances

And other unintended and unforeseen consequences.

I would want to give that experiment at least 10 years and then see whether:

1. it is harmless, like the libs and pot head claim (I may be repeating myself)

2. A net positive, like the libertarians claim

3. A net negative, like conservatives claim

Anybody want to make an early guess as to the outcome?


25 posted on 06/10/2014 12:00:21 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: MacMattico
Illegal sales are up because now if you’re caught with it in CO nothing is done

That's Colorado's fault not the pot's fault

26 posted on 06/10/2014 12:32:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: aquila48

But it is not a BaDaBing. It is a Badoom Tish.


27 posted on 06/10/2014 12:34:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Colorado, I will happily watch them melt down as they deserve


28 posted on 06/10/2014 12:34:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Olog-hai

How is the state going to get the money?

Last I heard, while pot may be legal in Colorado and Washington, the pot shops have an impossible time getting banking facilities under Federal rules.

Maybe that has changed, I don’t know.


29 posted on 06/10/2014 12:37:44 AM PDT by EC1
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To: GeronL

Probably no melt down. Just slow rot along with everybody else.


30 posted on 06/10/2014 1:27:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mom MD; Travis McGee

I smoked pot daily from 1971 to 1984

Never ever did what you claim to me...never once felt unpleasant actually

How many pot warriors here have ever smoked it?

Its hilarious....you guys hate the folks who smoke it...you think they are all libs

Yet we have drink and get drunk threads and folks bragging about being tipsy here like its aok

Its ridiculous.

Alcohol is exponentially more negatively consequential worldwide yet folks here who have never smoked marijuana in their life rail on rabidly from the perch of self righteousness

Likewise I have a friend in Traverse City MI right now dying of alcohol abuse related colon cancer who was told at age 47 he’s down to 3 months yet marijuana is all besides groggy phenagran that helps with chemo and avastin nausea....should he be deprived legal med weed to sate the reefer madness types here....and BTW...he’s a brave stoic some beach....inspiring...just wants enough energy day by day to keep restoring his cherry 57

And yes he detests Obama.....used to work in West Virginia mining

Pot is everywhere and has been for 40 years legalization doesn’t change that

And so far the price is still the same legal as illegal

Why not prohibit alcohol since folks here are so obsessed about public safety...naked girls too...another freeperdom bogeyman

Alienating right wing pot smokers does nothing for us.

You are partially correct though....ingesting THC products is an easy way to over intoxicate and folks don’t wait long enough and then take more when they shouldn’t

Alcohol kills 75000 folks a year in USA

Marihuana ...none from the drug itself but one can probably find some from impaired motor skills and accidents

So it goes back to my premise....those Freepers who rail over this equate pot smokers with leftism

And therefore they must not live in Dixie nor have they smoked much I’d wager....I know at least 100 right wing pot users

What do I think on legalization....against it...but in complete favor of decriminalization down to nuisance level

I have first offense friends with zero history of violence who have been in federal prison since the mid 80s for marijuana smuggling from Jamaica and Colombia

None of your pot warriors will ever convince me that draconian so called justice is just or conservative or should be espoused by those who love liberty


31 posted on 06/10/2014 2:00:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: EC1

It has not changed....even medical pot giant Harbour Lights has issues finding banks that will handle their accounts due to DEA threats

The Feds hate losing this beaureaucratic goldmine that has been feeding gift careers and govt unions and advancing prosecutorial careers for 50 years now

Boo hoo cry me a river

They are barely less offensive than BATF in my book

And RICO and highway confiscations

Do Freepers really like all these encroachments?

The founders would not have but who cares about those old white guys anymore....


32 posted on 06/10/2014 2:05:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Olog-hai

Liberal government doesn’t care where it gets the money from, only that it gets it.

It never saw a fee, transfer tax, sales tax, SPLOST, bond tax, income tax, school assessment tax, property tax, use fee, licensing fee or any other money stealing scheme that has ever existed that it did not like and use.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 2:17:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: wardaddy

Thank you. I thought it hadn’t changed, but you know how it is - its a big world and you only get so much time to read.

And I agree. Law enforcement no longer is, nor has been for some years, “To protect and serve.” Both the laws written and the enforcers of said laws are mainly in it for the greenbacks. Or the kickbacks.

Never understood why the DEA were created in the first place. They do the same job as BAFT.


34 posted on 06/10/2014 2:18:32 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1

When whom they protect and serve is unspoken, then there are problems.


35 posted on 06/10/2014 2:27:11 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was just saying that you said illegal sales had gone down and that hasn’t been the case.


36 posted on 06/10/2014 3:28:44 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Olog-hai

This country has gone to pot.


37 posted on 06/10/2014 4:01:20 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: wardaddy

The pot you smoked in the 70s is very different than what is available now. I was answering the comment that there are no increased medical costs etc with MJ, and that is simply not true. I see it all the time in the ED. You can be for or against legalized mj, but you cant ignore facts

As the mother of a substance abuse addicted child, and raising a granddaughter because both parents were using spice, a synthetic mj during pregnancy, I hate the legalization of this gateway drug. It makes kids think it is OK to get into drugs. My granddaughter was born dangerously underweight and still struggles in some areas due to moms drug use, and yet even after losing their child, both kids think mj is not harmful and that it even cures cancer. So dont tell me how wonderful your experience with mj was or how it didnt harm you - some people play with fire and get away unscathed. But that doesnt make fire any less dangerous.


38 posted on 06/10/2014 6:09:45 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

I was thinking something along those lines. The pot today is very potent.


39 posted on 06/10/2014 6:20:03 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Gaffer
Liberal government doesn’t care where it gets the money from, only that it gets it.

To them, the ends (keeping their phoney baloney jobs!) justify the means, always.

With more tax money, they can pay more gibsmedats, and have their own Free S**t Army come elections.

Between the stoners and the FSA, they are a shoo-in.

Pity, Colorado was a really nice state 30-40 years ago.

40 posted on 06/10/2014 6:25:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Olog-hai
Many of the cities in Colorado do not sell pot, like Colorado Springs because of large military presence.

We were in Colorado a few days ago and got to see what happens when potheads feel free to be stoned in the great outdoors. In Manitou Springs we watched a guys surfing on a curb stop while dancing. He wiped out.

41 posted on 06/10/2014 6:25:40 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Next thing you know is they will devise a scheme where the public can buy a ticket with a series of random numbers for a chance to win millions of dollars so they can escape the hell holes they live in. Of course they’ll set the odds astronomically high and the give you the option of taking a lump sum payout that’s less than half of the pot or give you a check every year for 30 years. Plus they will tell you the money goes to pay for the chitlins be schools. They’ll call this a lottery...


42 posted on 06/10/2014 6:37:59 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Olog-hai

What about Colorado’s responsibilities to neighboring states where law enforcement problems are multiplying because of Colorado’s legal marijuana?


43 posted on 06/10/2014 7:50:25 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Mom MD

You’re blaming pot for issues in your family that were not caused by pot but by something completely different from pot that was intended to get one high but which is extremely toxic

That’s like blaming alcohol for someone drinking Sterno who hoped it would feel like a nice pinot..

BTW...I never said pot was always harmless but it sure never once made me vomit

And we had hashish and skunk sensebud and hash oil in late 70s.....which rivaled average pot today which is mid teens THC %...yes some exotics hit mid 20s...trash weed was done by 1976 in the deep south

Its like comparing beer to whiskey..in fact the difference is far greater in those libations....drink less or smoke less

Gateway?

Gateway is booze and nicotine as much as pot...more so in my view and the national cost and damage much higher so why not the same zeal to ban those?

I’m sure we can find things harmful about pot abuse....I can name some off my head I’ve observed in some folks....apathy...procrastinate...lowered cognitive skills when high....lower sex drive in men......oppositional personality....laziness....

Now compare that to any other drug legal or not and pot is dead last in harmfulness in my experience of smoking and observing it

And conservatives here picking a fight with at least one third of their own kind is foolish

As for me...my only addiction is a good woman’s affection

But I detest loudmouth irrational belligerent drunks fools far more than goofy blase stoners

But yet like I said getting a buzz on from drinking is celebrated here

I do drink folded southern egg not and Cointreau

Maybe some red wine...I let Wifey do the drinking

I’m always the DD in any outing here

But I’d smoke pot today privately with her if she wanted to


44 posted on 06/10/2014 10:55:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Mom MD

BTW...fwiw

I consider the medical marijuana schemes as practiced in some states an exploited farce....folks getting rich

A few states tightly control dispensation and I don’t include them


45 posted on 06/10/2014 11:00:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: oldtech
What about Wisconsin’s responsibilities to neighboring states where law enforcement problems arise because of Wisconsin’s legal fireworks?
46 posted on 06/10/2014 2:50:55 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: wardaddy

Dude. And I do mean dude. Smoke anything you want and talk yourself into not feeling guilty any way you want. I take exception to your saying there are no negative health consequences to mj, I’ve seen them and know a fair amount about the human body. Defend your behavior anyway you want, I dont care. But sell your argument somewhere else, I aint buying.


47 posted on 06/10/2014 6:11:17 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

I don’t need your approval hon.....my wife’s at this stage are all I ask for but I made it rather clear I haven’t smoked it in 30 years ...lol...but I might after reading all the crazy stuff I read here

And nowhere did I say there were no negative health concerns but after 40 years of at least 30-40 million Americans smoking it regularly the health concerns pale in comparison to any other drug folks use to intoxicate themselves

Particularly drinking when one drinks to effect.

Conservatism is about empiricism and the Constitution and a level of morality

The hysterics here are about the perception of who smokes pot rather than the drug since the loudest barkers...not you admittedly ....have never used it

I have yet to see a pot smoker here past or present rail on with this reefer madness line of reasoning

Have you smoked it?

When you have and know what you are talking about beyond anecdotal observation then get back to me

I rest my case.


48 posted on 06/10/2014 6:25:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: wardaddy
And nowhere did I say there were no negative health concerns

In fact, you listed a number of negative consequences in pot #44 - but apparently Drug Warriors would rather debate the voices in their heads.

49 posted on 06/11/2014 7:05:06 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I don’t get the zealous hatred of the evil weed here

Odd

To me anyhow


50 posted on 06/11/2014 9:54:30 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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