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Police: Dad shoots, kills man who held gun to teen daughter
KTVI TV ^ | June 10, 2014 | Chris Regnier

Posted on 06/10/2014 1:08:22 PM PDT by rwa265

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – An attempted home invasion turned into a murder investigation Tuesday morning. One suspect is dead and another is in critical condition after allegedly holding a gun to a teen’s head. St. Louis police are releasing chilling details of a late night shooting in south St. Louis that left one person dead, another injured and a neighborhood shaken up.

It all went down at 11:00pm last night on Newport near Neosho in the Bevo Mill neighborhood. Investigators say it all started with a teenaged girl being confronted by two armed men in front of her home. It ended with one of the suspects dead and another hospitalized.

St. Louis police say a 17 year old girl was outside of her home getting something from a car when two armed men confronted her and demanded that she return to her home.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox2now.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; stlouis

1 posted on 06/10/2014 1:08:22 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

Murder investigation?????

Should be hero investigation...!!!


2 posted on 06/10/2014 1:09:20 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: rwa265

So. Taking into consideration the first sentence of this article...

Just exactly HOW is this a murder investigation?


3 posted on 06/10/2014 1:10:01 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: rwa265

This story has to be a hoax. Everyone knows guns are never used for good.


4 posted on 06/10/2014 1:11:13 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In AZ, it would be a murder investigation due to Felonious Murder - a criminal act resulting in a death will garner murder charges on conspirators/participants in the original criminal act.


5 posted on 06/10/2014 1:12:11 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: rwa265

The investigation should be why the dad only hit the second suspect three times not killing him. Oh, well, that would show that he did not intend to kill him, no?


6 posted on 06/10/2014 1:12:31 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: 2banana
Murder investigation?????

Yup. Somebody died in the commission of a crime. If the other scumbag survives, he'll be tried for felony murder.

7 posted on 06/10/2014 1:12:48 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s a murder investigation because one of the perps is alive. He can be charged with murder because he was a part of a felony in which someone died. His partner.


8 posted on 06/10/2014 1:14:19 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Learn To Search. Ask Me How.)
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To: rwa265

Great shooting Dad! Maybe one more bullet would have taken out the second dud. Exactly what a Dad should be doing, providing for and protecting his family. Very well done!


9 posted on 06/10/2014 1:15:23 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: 2banana
Maybe the surviving thief shold be held accountable for the death of his partner.
10 posted on 06/10/2014 1:16:26 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; old and tired

Thanks you two for that info.

`whew~

The way the TV journo-wanna-be’s wrote it up; it appeared the DAD was under investigation for murder.

And in some idjut states - he just might be.


11 posted on 06/10/2014 1:18:28 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

There may have been some assuming on the part of the journo...


12 posted on 06/10/2014 1:21:07 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Learn To Search. Ask Me How.)
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To: mountainlion

He’s the one being charged.


13 posted on 06/10/2014 1:24:08 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: rwa265

Please tell me Mom & Dad got legally registered weaponry...


14 posted on 06/10/2014 1:24:18 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: 2banana

Two purps, one dead. The second is considered a murderer as they were acting together when the one was killed..


15 posted on 06/10/2014 1:25:54 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: AzSteven; MIchaelTArchangel; 2banana; Responsibility2nd

That’s what it is. The second suspect is being charged with second-degree murder (also called felony murder), kidnapping, burglary and armed criminal action. His cash bail was set at $1 million.


16 posted on 06/10/2014 1:25:58 PM PDT by rwa265 (Love one another as I have loved you, says the Lord.)
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To: rwa265
An attempted home invasion . . . .

Another attack on the "haves" by the "victims" of America and the free enterprise system that the White House, the Congress, the MSM, academia rail against 24/7.

These are the pro-government extremists.. tens of thousands of Americans suffer personal losses and are injured, maimed, murdered each year

PRO-GOVERNMENT EXTREMISTS

The muggings, knockout game, mob attacks, murders, beatings.. look at the wicked hatred coming out of the White House, the Congress, the MSM, academia against those "who have too much" and how things should be more fair. How "they" stole "the people's" property.

Everyday people are encouraged to react out of being a victim. The employees of the MSM like MSNBC don't have to tell the masses to inflict pain and suffering on the "haves" and take back the "stolen" goods, the masses cheered on by the White House, the Congress, the MSM, academia to get even gladly steal, maim, and kill . . . .

17 posted on 06/10/2014 1:26:34 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; 2banana

If the story checks out as reported, then there should be no charges. It’s probably what happened.

But what if it doesn’t check out? Suppose you were invited over to Sheila’s house and her Dad shot you dead as you were walking towards the house. Then he told everyone you were planning a home invasion. You’d want someone to investigate and not just take the story at face value, wouldn’t you?

They should ALWAYS investigate deaths that are from unnatural causes.


18 posted on 06/10/2014 1:30:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: rwa265

#2 Perp: Cortez Mc Clinton! Must be from the Scottish side of Slick’s family!


19 posted on 06/10/2014 1:32:58 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: rwa265
Investigators say it all started with a teenaged girl being confronted by two armed men in front of her home. It ended with one of the suspects dead and another hospitalized.

I love a happy ending.

[sniff]

[wipes tear]

20 posted on 06/10/2014 1:34:12 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: rwa265

On the surface it sounds like a righteous shooting. Dad did good, Mom needs to do some realistic “gunfight” target practice.


21 posted on 06/10/2014 1:34:12 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: rwa265

Terrell Johnson and Cortez McClinton. No mugshots, must be “Amish.”


22 posted on 06/10/2014 1:35:55 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: rwa265

Just taking out some garbage and keeping the neighborhood clean.


23 posted on 06/10/2014 1:37:24 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: rwa265
St. Louis police say a 17 year old girl was outside of her home getting something from a car when two armed men confronted her and demanded that she return to her home.

So I didn't read beyond the excerpt, but that little snippet makes it sound like the confronters were curfew Nazis or something: 'Get back to your house little woman'.
Or maybe budding wannabee Saudis: 'Women should not be driving cars - back into the kitchen you harlot!'

I'm sure it was all explained in the link ... but I'm moving on (my work is done here...)

24 posted on 06/10/2014 1:40:22 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Just exactly HOW is this a murder investigation?”

Article does not say but in most(?) states you can charge the person assisting in the crime if his buddy is killed by the person attempting to stop the crime.


25 posted on 06/10/2014 1:40:27 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: rwa265

Mom had a gun too. A no chit family. :-)


26 posted on 06/10/2014 1:40:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2banana

Who got ‘murdered”?


27 posted on 06/10/2014 1:43:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: 2banana

Dad ‘did’ homicide. I don’t like to use the term ‘committed’ ‘cause that implies criminality. Homicide is the intentional killing of another. It may or may not be criminal. When a condemned criminal is executed, the manner of death is often listed as ‘judicial homicide’. Intentional, but nice and legal. All circumstances here indicate that the homicide done by the father was justifiable as defense of self or another from deadly force and hence not criminal. A homicide investigation is done to establish all of those facts.

On the other hand, as other posters have pointed out, the surviving perp was engaged in felony that caused the death of another. Intentional or not, victim, conspirator, innocent bystander it matters not. Most states define that as murder in the second degree.


28 posted on 06/10/2014 1:46:10 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: TexasGator
...in most(?) states you can charge the person assisting in the crime if his buddy is killed by the person attempting to stop the crime.

Correct; I think the designation is felony murder, death from any cause during the commission of a felony.

29 posted on 06/10/2014 1:46:24 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: maine-iac7

“Who got ‘murdered”?”

The dead one.


30 posted on 06/10/2014 1:47:14 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Renkluaf
Please tell me Mom & Dad got legally registered weaponry...

It damned well shouldn't matter; any registration is an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms, and unconstitutional.

31 posted on 06/10/2014 1:49:01 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ZULU

That,s what I like about the South.


32 posted on 06/10/2014 1:49:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Georgia Girl 2

A family that shoots together, stays together. Now I hope they take their daughter out to a gun range and incude her in the family sport of target shooting - if they haven’t already.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 1:55:33 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: rwa265

That`s when police say the teen`s father, a 34 year old man, got his gun and fired several shots at the suspects, hitting both of them. The girl`s mother, also 34, got another gun and fired a round as well, not hitting either suspect..........There was also a five year old boy in the home who fired at the perps with his BB gun.


34 posted on 06/10/2014 3:29:12 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: TexasGator

Thank you for clearing that up for me - ahahaha


35 posted on 06/10/2014 5:20:21 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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