Skip to comments.Sen. Lindsey Graham Wins GOP Nod in South Carolina [How Did We Get This Catastrophe?]
Posted on 06/10/2014 9:24:49 PM PDT by Steelfish
Sen. Lindsey Graham Wins GOP Nod in South Carolina
COLUMBIA, S.C. - U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham won South Carolina's Republican party outright on Tuesday, defeating six tea party challengers and avoiding a runoff.
Graham, 58, had about 59 percent of the vote in early returns, far more than what was needed to avoid the runoff. State Sen. Lee Bright came in second, with nearly 14 percent.
Aside from Bright, those arrayed against Graham included Columbia pastor Det Bowers, Upstate businessman Richard Cash and Charleston-area businesswoman Nancy Mace, the first female cadet graduate from The Citadel, South Carolina's military college. Orangeburg County attorney Bill Connor and Columbia lawyer Benjamin Dunn were also seeking the nomination.
Graham, who has been in office since 2002, had a hefty fundraising advantage: He has raised more than $12 million since his last re-election bid in 2008, while none of his opponents passed the $1 million mark.
The challengers have hammered away at Graham, saying he's not conservative enough for South Carolina. That didn't matter to Ben Lister, a 48-year-old financial planner from Greenville who voted for the senator.
"I know that some people are saying he should be more conservative, but what does that mean?" Lister asked. "I want a politician who actually thinks about the issues instead of going along with the crowd."
Meanwhile, Graham's fellow Republican U.S. Sen. Tim Scott won his primary by a wide margin, setting the stage for South Carolina to elect a black person to the U.S. Senate for the first time.
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Well, I am happy to see Tim Scott won.
Lee Bright simply failed to be South Carolina’s Chris McDaniel. You can put the loss on him and the idiot voters.
If folks split the vote, that’s what they can expect. Most of the time.
How did we get this catastrophe?
Must have been his Bette Davis Eyes that mesmerized. (I seem to remember he had a picture of the actress on his website a while back and a picture of himself that emphasized his large and heavily lashed eyes.)
We ended up with this because Lindsay didn’t out right attack the tea party like that arrogant SOB Cantor
SC just voted to take it in the behinds from Lindsey Graham. Bet he does not kiss them before he leaves.
Does South Carolina have an open primary?
I’ll guess Lindsey is fairly popular with Blacks and Hispanics, who make up more than 33% of state residents.
By the way, Graham is an excellent and charming politician.
Many people in SC like him on a personal level.
Because useful idiots continue listening to GOP sycophants who spread the lie that a Republican siding with Democrats is better than a Democrat.
Then they complain when the closet Democrat sides with Democrats.
then they vow to never do it again.
Then they do it again.
Thank those GOP sycophants because many make FR their home.
The deeply entrenched are extremely hard to unseat. I’m sure that there were many crossover votes to ensure this RINO stayed right where he is. SC needs to stop allowing open primaries!
We have our losses, but we are winning the game. TEA is the only group in the nation that is infiltrating and making a big difference. The movement is only 5 years old. We need to look at the successes. They are simply amazing!
Someone over saturated the field with lots if so called tea party candidates . If there had been just one minnie mccain might have joined Cantor.
What were his final numbers? Last I saw he was around 55/56%, hardly a trouncing of six under-funded, inexperienced politicians. Especially when he bragged he had $13 mil going into this race and a statewide organization in place.
He probably shouldn’t be crowing quite so loud or someone’s probably going to pick up on his underwhelming victory.
the Candidates split the vote six against one uber rich fairy? Puhleeze!
Gramnesty needed 50% +1 vote to win outright tonight and avoid a runoff, which he did. Even if all the votes of every challenger tonight had gone to just one challenger, Gramnesty still would have received over 50% of the vote.
“defeating six tea party challengers”
Which part of “divide and lose” don’t you understand?
If six conservatives had split the vote against Cantor, there wouldn’t be anything to celebrate tonight.
Well he must have had some fear of the possibility of a runoff, since he dropped the “I-word” (Impeachment) last week.
Gramnesty needed 50% +1 vote to win outright tonight and avoid a runoff, which he did. Even if all the votes of every one of his challengers had gone to just one challenger, Gramnesty still would have received over 50% of the vote and won outright.
CROSS OVER VOTING FROM THE RATS.
again. too many challengers. split the conservative vote. depressed the conservative vote. split or stopped the inflow of conservative money. i gave to brat. could never figure out who was the conservative leader in SC, so i never sent any money.
“He probably shouldnt be crowing quite so loud or someones probably going to pick up on his underwhelming victory.”
I don’t think Graham really cared whether he got 52% of the vote or 74% of the vote.
He got what he needed and now the worthless POS is on his way back to DC and it’ll be another six long years of watching this asswipe undercut the GOP.
Is there a single instance when 6 (or more) candidates ran against an incumbent in a primary and forced a runoff?
I hope this will be the last we hear (and we heard it until our ears bled) about how packing the primary field is a sure fire way to keep an incumbent under 50, drag him into a run off, and then beat him.
just because it worked for cruz doesn’t mean it will ever work again, anywhere else.
my God, some of the people here were relentless on that point. relentlessly wrong, as it turns out.
South Carolina provides for a runoff. Runoffs are supposed to make vote splitting safe.
In this case, the sum total of the vote splitters didn't add up to 50%. If it had, then Graham would have been forced into a runoff with the most popular of the vote splitters' candidates. Then, assuming the vote splitters could be bothered to turn out for the runoff and vote for the second guy, the third+ having been eliminated, the second guy would have won, and Grahamnesty would be gone.
There was little dust-up in 2012 in Texas, in which eight candidates went after the GOP-e's guy (who was not an incumbent), and the GOP-e guy lost badly in the runoff.
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It is truly stunning how easily people let themselves be lied to. Or how willingly.
How does a person look at that mans public comments and positions and then vote for him? Especially when there are alternatives?
Not a single one of those people has any right at all to complain about what the GOP has done to America, nor what they will do. they had ample chance to help correct it and instead willingly chose to help.
Thanks for nothing SC. You deserve Linda but the rest of us don’t. SC joins AZ, OH, and KY as RINO HQ.
True, but having so many candidates really dilutes the message that someone would be a viable and appropriate alternative to Graham...instead he just dominated the race and the rest of the candidates were just background noise because there were so many of them...and with the nearest challenger having 14% apparently none of them were very organized at all. It’s a shame...out of all of the incumbents that it would have been beneficial to defeat, this guy would have been the most beneficial to replace. Oh well...
Thanks for the education! I forget important things like that from time to time.
Three works pretty well in forcing a runoff if one of the two really resonates. In MS, unfortunately, the third guy took just enough votes to force a runoff for McDaniel. Had it be the other way around, with McDaniel a point down on the incumbent, we would have been thrilled to have that guy in the race. As it is, it prevented the out and out victory.
I agree...a crowded field doesn’t help. It also doesn’t help that none of them got any real traction. There just wasn’t anyone to be ‘the one’ be able to take on Graham.
Unless some of Lindsey’s went to a stronger opponent, which would have likely happened if all the energy had been poured into just one strong candidate who could articulate the conservative message. Need to think smart.
55-56% in a 7 candidate race is far from underwhelming. We were assured over and over by FR experts on SC elections that it was actually just great having a large number of challengers, because that would keep Graham under the requisite 50%.
Too many assumptions there. People today are mostly uneducated. Large majorities won’t be able to tell the name of the US Chief Justice. They don’t read. They are fed one-liner campaign commercials. Women voters skew things up. They tend to vote Democratic and vote “soft”:i.e. Graham-type candidate. Even without looking at the internal poll numbers there’s no question Graham would have won a lop-side female vote.
We do, but there was also a democrat primary taking place as well.
Not at all. Every word you wrote reinforces fully my assertion of how willing people are to be led.
The fact that they voted at all puts the majority of them in a ‘smarter’ more aware bracket than most. Remember this was a republican primary. Most of them can read and aren’t full subscribers to the gibdsmedat mentality of the Dems. Or at least shouldn’t be.
Ultimately there is no excuse to be an uninformed voter. None. Any assertion that there is is itself an excuse. Are there uninformed voters? Sure. Some of these morons just hit the party button as usual without a conscious thought given. Which is exactly WHY we have a Uniparty system with closet case Republicans.
Linda reached out to democrats, encouraging them to vote for him in the primary. And they did.
Not that I've ever had one.... Besides this Goober.
As much as I’m enjoying Cantor’s loss I would have traded that seat for this one. I real thought there was a chance of forcing a runoff.
Not me. I voted against him.
I asked those around me “why?” They were afraid to vote for a newcomer because he/she could be beaten by the Democrats in November. That’s the consensus I’m hearing. But in heavily Republican SC, that wouldn’t happen. But this was the thinking. I won’t be voting for Lindsey in the general.
Then they are idiots. The low-information Republican will be the death of this country.
Evidently the people of S.C. like him pretty much. The race wasn’t even close but we should feel pretty good about the fact that we have pulled even the rinos to the right. Cantor losing will send shock waves through the party and immigration reform is dead.
If we're ever to get out of this mess, then ultimately it's the voters who need to think smart. Those in VA-7 did; those in SC didn't.
Agree that voters need to think smart. But the conservstive activists do also. Divide the slate. Divide the vote.
The fact that most of them can read is not the point. It’s being informed. We are viewing the average primary voters through the lens of our own understanding because we keep ourselves informed of the Senator Graham types. But the average voters (and again, this is mainly women voters) have no clue. They are too busy either reading the gossip magazines, disciples of Oprah or at most simply catch a glimpse of the day’s major headlines. This group is swayed by last minute self-serving promotional ads. To put it differently, outside of the usual die-hards, the reasonably informed primary voters would NOT have voted for Graham. In California an indicted state senator (Leland) whose name appeared for a statewide office garnered 300,000 votes!
The bottom line is that there is ZERO excuse to not be informed. Especially being a supposed right wing republican. An uninformed voter is the problem. they elect liberals, whether GOP or dem.
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