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Looking Back at the Tea Leaves on Cantor
National Review ^ | 6/10/2014 | John Fund

Posted on 06/11/2014 2:49:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

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To: Haiku Guy

The Demoncraps picked their candidate by committee, before the primary. They already had their nominee, so rats were free to crossover.


61 posted on 06/11/2014 5:25:48 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U
The Demoncraps picked their candidate by committee, before the primary.

Ah, I see.

Well, it wouldn't be fun stomping on just the Greens and the Libertarians... So Brat can beat the Democrat, too!

Brat is an attractive politician. As a novice, you always have to be wary that he might step in it, but he speaks well and has popular positions. I think he will do just fine in November.

62 posted on 06/11/2014 5:36:42 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: MDspinboyredux
Obama took 43% of the vote in 2012. Very plausible for Dem pickup.

Boy, is that weak.
63 posted on 06/11/2014 5:38:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Not really, if taken with the other considerations in my post.

I bet Cantor was pretty confident going into the primary too. Look how that turned out.

Run a solid race, avoid making novice gaffes and don’t fark it up.


64 posted on 06/11/2014 5:42:11 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: Haiku Guy

Please double check your math - I think it was far less than $100/vote.

Does anyone know the final voter tally?

The campaign dollar figures are stunning at 2.5 mil vs 40k - that’s over 60:1!!!

Also check out the NPR error.

“Cantor, the No. 2 Republican in the House, had argued that Cantor was not conservative enough “and accused the seven-term incumbent of betraying conservative values on spending , the national debt and immigration,” Reuters says.”


65 posted on 06/11/2014 5:44:53 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: MDspinboyredux
One house race is not going to turn the house over to the Dems even if Brat loses.

The important thing is that the liberal republican majority leader of the house got fired.

My mission in life is to see all liberal republican candidates politically destroyed, if not in the primary, then in the general election.

/johnny

66 posted on 06/11/2014 5:48:29 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BrandtMichaels
Please double check your math - I think it was far less than $100/vote.

Last number I saw had Cantor getting 28,631 votes after having spent $2.5 Million. That comes out to $87.32 per vote.

My previous information had Cantor only getting approximately 25,000 votes. But I was in the ballpark.

$87.32 is a lot to pay per vote.

67 posted on 06/11/2014 5:53:12 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: MDspinboyredux
You and Sack-a-just-sucka are the poster children for what is wrong with the conservative republican movement.

Anytime any victory occurs, you are right up there to point out how it is really a defeat.

Just because you two are losers doesn't mean that the rest of the conservative movement is also.

I think you might want to try out DU.

68 posted on 06/11/2014 5:56:25 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Fair enough.

But don’t be surprised if, by doing so, more Democrats are elected effectively defeating your purpose of electing more Conservatives.

The democrats know the right is split and are actively taking advantage of it. The Tea Party has created litmus tests for support. Problem is, everyone has a different litmus test. Palin conservatives don’t agree with Huckabee conservatives who don’t agree with Santorum conservatives.

You beginning to see the problem? For want of the “ideal” the opponent wins.

Just don’t ignore who your real opponent is


69 posted on 06/11/2014 6:07:09 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: MDspinboyredux
My real opponent is liberals. All liberals. Including republican liberals.

Conservatives win elections. Liberal republicans lose elections.

The 'lesser evil' days are over. If the GOP-E realizes that, they may survive.

I don't care if they survive or not. I'm a conservative, not a republican.

/johnny

70 posted on 06/11/2014 6:10:41 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MDspinboyredux

Guess you didn’t see the Brat interview on Fox last night. Actually two, first on the phone, then live.

Brat is as good as Reagan on his feet (though without his humor), speaks not from notes or talking points, but from the heart. Incredibly articulate, clear, and a great communicator. He will slaughter anyone who tries to debate with him.

My bet he is going places........


71 posted on 06/11/2014 6:10:53 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: MDspinboyredux
The Tea Party has created litmus tests for support.

The GOP-E can't even run candidates that match their own party platform. Get back to me when they can do that.

/johnny

72 posted on 06/11/2014 6:11:55 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MDspinboyredux
Not really, if taken with the other considerations in my post.

Nothing of what you posted makes that 43% come even close to providing any probability of a Dem upset.
73 posted on 06/11/2014 6:13:51 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: MDspinboyredux
But don’t be surprised if, by doing so, more Democrats are elected effectively defeating your purpose of electing more Conservatives.

Not going to happen.

The best part of this scenario is that it destroys the GOP-E power structure at it's base.

Effectively destroying the Corporate Cronyism of the GOP-E.
74 posted on 06/11/2014 6:15:34 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: MDspinboyredux

We are trying to build a movement, here.

We are trying to undo a century of Progressive drift.

The way you do that is nominate the best Conservative you can find. Run him in the general, and win the races you can.

That way we frame the debate as Progressive vs. Conservative, instead of Progressive vs. Slightly Less Progressive. We cannot win converts to the cause if we never promote our own position.

If we can’t win converts, then we lose. But if that is the case, we lose anyway. If we are to lose the ideological battle and decend into another century of Progressive drift toward full-blown Socialism, I don’t really care if the folks in Washington have a (D) or an (R) behind their names.


75 posted on 06/11/2014 6:15:40 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Redleg Duke

No. It’s just that some of us have traveled this road before.

Ask yourself, “why were so many Democrats voting in this primary?” Because they liked Brat? Seriously?

I will support Brat, but don’t fool yourself about what’s going on. Don’t be the useful idiot they want you to be.


76 posted on 06/11/2014 6:17:30 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: MDspinboyredux
If you vote for a liberal republican, you are a liberal.

/johnny

77 posted on 06/11/2014 6:21:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Servant of the Cross
I think it's easier to unseat an incumbent when it's one on one.

When there are a half-dozen good candidates it is a lot harder for voters to get behind one of the challengers.

78 posted on 06/11/2014 6:32:11 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
But the newspapers covering Washington, D.C., quoted him as saying he was seeking a compromise with President Obama on immigration.

Compromising with bad policy is like adding just a little sewage to your drinking water.

79 posted on 06/11/2014 6:32:52 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Even in the Cantor-Brat race, the ‘establishment’ GOP had mixed messages. Criticism of Cantor (Wednesday morning quarterbacking) is his changing stands on some issues, so the voters lost trust in him standing for anything.

That is a problem most of the GOP-elites have — they don’t stand for anything other than keeping their power positions for their own self interests.


80 posted on 06/11/2014 6:37:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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