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How the Dream Act may have led to Eric Cantor's loss
Washington Examiner ^ | June 11, 2014 | BY SUSAN FERRECHIO

Posted on 06/11/2014 4:44:45 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is likely to significantly chill efforts to pass an immigration reform bill this year.

"One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents,” Cantor said in a 2013 speech. “It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children and who know no other home."

Brat told voters he opposes Dream Act legislation.

“For Eric Cantor to say he was against amnesty, while promoting it for certain groups,” Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., told the Washington Examiner, “I guess that wasn't very believable.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; cantordreamact; dreamact; illegalaliens; kidsact; massamnesty; tyranny

1 posted on 06/11/2014 4:44:45 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Cantor spoke with forked tongue

real Americans don’t like that


2 posted on 06/11/2014 4:45:46 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents,” Cantor said in a 2013 speech..."

I must have missed that one. I probably fell asleep, was drawing airplanes or looking out the window the day they taught that founding principle.

3 posted on 06/11/2014 4:46:56 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, just look at all of the *children* in that photo! Why, most of them look to be not much older than....fifteen.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 4:48:19 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: yldstrk

Wow I was busy and missed the news, first i heard about Cantor losing. The press had made it sound like he was unbeatable before.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 4:49:46 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s why we never send criminal lawbreakers to prison if they have minor children.

Oh wait. We do.


6 posted on 06/11/2014 4:50:13 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Mount Athos

His pollster had him way ahead too


7 posted on 06/11/2014 4:50:36 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rlmorel
“One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents,” Cantor said in a 2013 speech...”
I must have missed that one. I probably fell asleep, was drawing airplanes or looking out the window the day they taught that founding principle.


I can't recall being taught that founding principal in civics class either.

Must be a nu skewel thing.

8 posted on 06/11/2014 4:52:57 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

9 posted on 06/11/2014 4:54:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama and another exploding cigar. He thought he could force the GOP to the table on his terms on immigration with these kids streaming across the border.

And it was pressuring some…but it was the overplay of the century. Well, of the week with this guy. The videos of the border probably worth 10 points to Brat.

Obama uniting conservatives like no one else….


10 posted on 06/11/2014 4:57:25 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: yldstrk

Cantor was talking out of both sides of his mouth. Voters want the borders secured BEFORE we look at immigration reform. Voters will not allow any more con jobs from hypocrites. It is not about the Tea Party, it is about honesty.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 5:03:30 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama’s Katrina


12 posted on 06/11/2014 5:03:55 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Rapscallion

I like people that talk straight and don’t lie.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 5:05:11 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ScottinVA

LOL. Touche!


14 posted on 06/11/2014 5:06:16 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
"One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents,” Cantor said in a 2013 speech.

Yes, I can imagine one of the framers asking, in that hot convention hall in Philadelphia, "Prithee, what if our uniform rule of naturalization punishes foreign children for the mistakes of their parents? Would that really be fair?"

Actually, I'm pretty sure they weren't worried about that one.

15 posted on 06/11/2014 5:07:48 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Of COURSE bacon is good for you!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents

So, chidden won't be punished for the "mistakes" of their parents (the parents didn't accidentally send their kids across the border, you twerp!).

And parents won't be punished for their own "mistakes" (like willfully violating the law.

So, we have lots of lawbreaking and no punishment !

16 posted on 06/11/2014 5:08:43 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rlmorel

Article 3, Section 3, Clause 2 of the US Constitution.

However, as strictly written, “corruption of blood” only applies to those convicted of treason. The 5th Amendment infers the principle, overall, however.

In this case, the principle that children aren’t held accountable for the crimes of their parents is being made in a pretty expansive manner, tho.


17 posted on 06/11/2014 5:14:18 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Cantor always sounded dishonest to me so he got caught on this by GOP voters.

But being dishonest never hurt Grahamnesty.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 5:15:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
White children are being punished for the mistakes of their parents. They are being punished for the mistakes of their parents in allowing demographically swamping, population replacement level of immigration. They are being punished with greater crowding, lower wages, and the prospect of being a minority in their own country.

So I agree with Cantor: we should stop punishing these children for the mistakes of their parents, by ending the mistake of their parents (mass immigration). These mistakes were not a force of nature, they were policy and policy can be changed.

19 posted on 06/11/2014 5:18:55 AM PDT by evilC
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To: yldstrk

Was his pollster Dick Morris?


20 posted on 06/11/2014 5:26:14 AM PDT by albie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How the Dream NIGHTMARE FOR AMERICA Act may have led to Eric Cantor's loss

"May"

The slime in DC had best wake up and listen to the AMERICAN people!

21 posted on 06/11/2014 5:35:45 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This ‘Dreamers’ BS is beyond stupid!

Just how the hell do they propose to tell the difference between a ‘Dreamer’ that that came here with his illegal parents a 5, and one that swam across the river last week at 15?

They’re illegals for cripes sake, they have no valid ID or BC, no way of telling who they are or when they arrived!!


22 posted on 06/11/2014 5:37:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: yldstrk
His pollster had him way ahead too

I think this may be a huge side benefit to Cantor's loss. The insider GOPe consultants and pollsters who are always steering left have lost credibility. Maybe a few of them will have a harder time getting the ear of GOP candidates.

23 posted on 06/11/2014 6:01:17 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: rlmorel

Children should not benefit from the crimes of their parents.

Foreigners have no right to be here, deporting them is not punishment.


24 posted on 06/11/2014 6:10:26 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: yldstrk

As coroner, of Freeperland,
I’m here to certify to you—
That his career’s not merely dead,
It’s really quite sincerely dead.

Poking dead RINO with stick:
Yup, he’s dead. Dead as disco.
But let’s not bicker and argue over who killed who.
This is supposed to be a happy occasion!


25 posted on 06/11/2014 6:25:00 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Keep it up, RINOs!


26 posted on 06/11/2014 6:27:41 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: tumblindice

Are you saying I am bickering?


27 posted on 06/11/2014 6:31:16 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents,” Cantor said in a 2013 speech..."

What?

These people just make stuff up as the go along. Very good that he was defeated.

Look, if parents from Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. are allowing their children to be shipped to the southern US border...and make no mistake, THAT is precisely what is happening here, the kids did not walk across Central American jungles by themselves, get through the Mexican southern border and just magically show up on the Texas, New Mexico, Arizona borders with no food or water...anyhow, if they are allowing their kids to be used this way, it's on them and the people using them. NOT on the Citizens of the United States.

I say, set up a Guatemalen Sea-Lift and pay for commercial cargo ships to take these kids back to Central Amnerica, and to pay for Peace Corp people to accomp[any themn and feed them in route...and then take the money to do that DIRECTLY OUT OF FOREIGN AID FUNDS of those effected countries.

You would see this stuff stop over night.

Then...when the kids are back in their countries...CUT OFF ANY MORE FOREIGN AID to the countries allowing this to happen. Every penny.


28 posted on 06/11/2014 7:45:33 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: rlmorel
“”One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents,” Cantor said in a 2013 speech...”

I absolutely agree with the sentiment and the premise, but it is not applied generally, and is being exploited in this instance.

If we universally don't believe in punishing children for the mistakes of their parents, why do some speak of the need for reparations? Why are children being taught ‘white guilt’? Children are children.

I don't want any child to suffer, ever, but there are children suffering all over the world. This includes those children who are caught in the cross-fire of Islamic radicalism. We should be holding accountable the countries that provide no opportunity for their children, creating or letting exist conditions that lead to illegal immigration. We should be holding accountable the countries that exploit children in the work force, or politically. It's a complex problem, but in my view the left isn't interested in an honest dialogue. They are mostly interested in identifying and using issues that give them a political advantage.

29 posted on 06/11/2014 10:02:47 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Jane Long

They’re supposed to be mostly 15 to 17.


30 posted on 06/11/2014 10:16:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Exactly. They’ll be voting by 2016....as Dims, thanks to all of the FreeStuff™.


31 posted on 06/11/2014 10:38:42 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: tanknetter

Yes. The Left is constantly pushing the boundaries of the Constitution (see Roe v Wade with its “penumbras”) in the directions it wants to go.

I view things like this as I do “hate crimes”. The Constitution protects against everything liberals want to prosecute as “hate crimes” if only it were followed.

All hate crimes legislation does is put things in place that don’t need to be there.

Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Rape is rape.


32 posted on 06/11/2014 5:29:49 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

It is simply a liberal tactic. If you don’t do X, Y, or Z, you are against children/women/minorities/etc.

It doesn’t make any difference if X, Y, or Z are wrong, illegal or just bad for those groups. If you are against it, you are against children.

And your point is an excellent one....very good. If reparations aren’t “children” being punished for the sins of their “parents”, then what is it?


33 posted on 06/11/2014 7:36:42 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Jane Long; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave; ken5050; sickoflibs
HUH---GIMME THAT AGAIN? Cantor in 2013: "One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents. It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children and who know no other home."

Cantor later offered a new explanation for why he supports granting amnesty to individuals brought into the country illegally as minors. It's “Biblical,” he said in a local radio interview.

Wadda ya wanna bet that tidbit offed the sucker but good. So much for Cantor's high-sounding words (endorsing a measure intended to dismantle US ntl scurity).

Cantor stupidly believed the rest of us just fell of turnip truck---that we know nothing about the Dream Act except what he makes up.

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THE FACTS ARE THESE---The Senate amnesty bill is dangerously flawed, and its glaring omissions WRT protecting US ntl security, cannot ever serve as the basis for useful legislation.

By legalizing illegal aliens w/out shoring up law enforcement, we hand an engraved invitation to global Third Worlders----all of 'em salivating to ride the US gravy train.....each seperatist group conniving to achieve its hidden agenda.

Amnesty recklessly opens the door wide for illiterate, low-skilled aliens, born and bred in savage cultures, here to suck up US benefits and take jobs away from Americans.

Third Worlders may, in fact, contribute their labor to the US, but their loyalties are elsewhere----they have no intention of becoming Americanized....of participating as equals in American culture, revering our vast history, or preserving American values.

The Senate amnesty bill is a blueprint----it amply demonstrates that illegal separatist populations intend to usurp the US political system to advance their own hidden agenda.

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Immigration “reform” includes two “slush funds” amounting to $150,000,000 that may be supplemented with additional taxpayer dollars for years to come, earmarked for "Dreamers"----like the blood-thirsty La Raza.

LA RAZA TEACHING HATE-AMERICA WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS La Raza Studies do not even try to sugar-coat its anti-America agenda and its bloodthirsty plans to kill off Americans: Raza Studies textbook “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood-curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is, if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

The following is taken directly from La Raza's Occupied America (pg. 167): “.......execute all white males over age 16,” (AKA the Plan of San Diego).

America-hating Raza Studies teach (1) violence, (2) undermining US ntl security, and, (3) the need for Mexico to "re-take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation. "

SCHOOL BOARD NUT CASES Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools. Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7).

Cong Raul Grijalva is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal Fifth Column in the US Congress....aiding and abetting the latino criminal underworld, colluding to take back the SW, and loot and pillage the US treasury.

Raul and friend.

Cantor and friend.

34 posted on 06/13/2014 5:44:45 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Recent studies indicate that the cost of raising a child is about $250,000. Since the government will now in effect be "raising" all these kids flooding across our southern border, and as we know how efficient the government is, it's gonna cost at least $500k per child.So, 150,000 kids this year..that's a future cost to we, the taxpayers, of some $75 BILLION.

It's also despicable that these illegals are now instantly receiving medical care, unlike our vets..

35 posted on 06/13/2014 5:50:28 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050
It's despicable illegals swarming at the border are instantly receiving medical care, unlike our vets.

Good point---but the border swarm are new Democrat voters---gotta pile on the freebies.

After all, Obomba might have a nervous breakdown if Repubs win majorities.

36 posted on 06/13/2014 5:55:46 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Obama is deliberately using thousands of illegal alien children, placing them in POW camp conditions for effect to force amnesty. How utterly sick and twisted is that? This is something some tin horn African dictator would do to force his will.

In the meantime, crickets are chirping from Boehner, Rove and the Chamber of Commerce. ALL complicit in this scheme.

37 posted on 06/13/2014 5:56:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Jeff Head
I say, set up a Guatemalen Sea-Lift; have commercial cargo ships take these kids back to Central America; have Peace Corp people on board to feed them in route.....then take the money to do that DIRECTLY OUT OF FOREIGN AID FUNDS of inhumane Third World countries dumping children across the border w/ no resources. Then...when the kids are returned home...CUT OFF FOREIGN AID to the savage countries aiding and abetting child abandonment.

We also need to launch a global investigation WRT (1) Obama's collusion and conspiracy w/ these savage countries to transport children thousands of miles.....(2) determine the scope and dimension of tax dollars and other emoluments extorted to pay for this....and, (3) what Obama promised in return for the new Democrat voters.

38 posted on 06/13/2014 6:09:47 AM PDT by Liz
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To: TADSLOS
Obama’s DHS Chief Threatens Migrant Flood If GOP Rejects Amnesty Bill
The Daily Caller ^ | 6/12/14 | Neil Munro / Posted by blueyon

Department of Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson suggested Thursday he would not block the growing wave of illegal immigrants who are crossing the Texas border until the GOP agrees to pass the Senate immigration rewrite that is backed by President Obama. He twice refused to set any limit on the number of foreign youths who would be given the opportunity to ask the administration’s immigration judges for permission to live in the United States. Johnson and several deputies delivered the threat to GOP legislators during a brief June 12 press conference. The threat was offset by statements........ (Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

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First---Jeh Johnson needs to be arrested for abuse of public office---that's not his job to bully Americans.

Second--Democrats need to be put on notice-----what happened to Cantor can happen to them.

Americans will not be bullied by tax-paid govt factotums like Johnson----we demand Democrats act now and request Johnson's resignation.

AND if Obama dares to move unilaterally on any immigration measure---we demand Democrats request his resignation, as well. Congressional Republicans should also be contacted to move this along.

39 posted on 06/13/2014 6:19:05 AM PDT by Liz
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