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This prominent conservative says immigration reform isn't necessarily dead
Washington Examiner ^ | June 10, 2014 | BY BETSY WOODRUFF

Posted on 06/11/2014 4:53:01 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Tuesday might have been a bad night for immigration reform -- but not necessarily.

That's the message from Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform. He favors the kind of immigration reform -- including a large guest worker program and more legal immigration -- that many Tea Party activists vehemently oppose.

But it’s not guaranteed, and it depends on the media narrative that emerges, he added.

“Give it ten days,” Norquist said.

If a consensus emerges that Cantor’s stance on immigration lost him his seat, then that’s a big problem for reform proponents.

“If the narrative hardens that that’s what it was about, then it could spook people and put off a vote that might otherwise happen in next month,” Norquist said. “If people are convinced, No, that wasn’t what it is, then it won’t have any effect at all.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; americancrossroads; amnesty; border; crossroadsgps; grover4muslims; grovernorquist; illegalaliens; islam; jihadist; karlrovestooge; muslimbrotherhood; norquist; rino
The DC establishment, the Chamber of Commerce, and open borders progressives will continue the amnesty fight.

Boehner needs to either step up and fight this tyranny in earnest, or step down.

1 posted on 06/11/2014 4:53:01 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Norquist also supports terrorist organizations,
Sharia, and probably al Qaeda.

The GOP would be wise to ignore him.


2 posted on 06/11/2014 4:55:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, I didn’t see any conservative mentioned in that article…...


3 posted on 06/11/2014 4:58:06 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who the hell is Grover Norquist?


4 posted on 06/11/2014 4:58:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The voters warned the politicians: secure the border FIRST.

Americans are fair. They want the country secure against the invaders before we let the immigrants in, in an orderly legal process (not an invasion, Mr Obama).

5 posted on 06/11/2014 4:58:37 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We desperately need immigration reform.

Immigration reform is not necessarily amnesty, it’s coming up with a way to deal with the 35+million illegal aliens we have currently residing in the US.

It’s a big problem when a country with a population of 320 million people has an illegal alien population of more than 35 million.

More than 1 in 10 of the people currently residing within the borders of the United States is has entered the country illegally and is an illegal alien living here illegally


6 posted on 06/11/2014 4:59:57 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The thought that crossed my mind was that a vindictive Cantor could now push harder to get amnesty passed


7 posted on 06/11/2014 5:01:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Diogenesis
This prominent conservative says immigration reform isn't necessarily dead

Of course not. There are still countless Republicans who have a political death wish.

8 posted on 06/11/2014 5:01:48 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Prominent Conservative" should NEVER precede the name Grover Norquist (a wolf in sheep's clothing) ...

Grover Norquist is funded by CAIR, married to a 'palestinian' who was director of communications for Islamic Free Market Institute, and beholden to Islam.

9 posted on 06/11/2014 5:02:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Grover Al Norquist is as much of a threat as any of the democrat’s friends.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 5:02:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Cantor’s stance on immigration

Which of his many stances is this referring to?

11 posted on 06/11/2014 5:03:14 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rdcbn

Those folks are guests, visiting from another Country.
They need to go back to their Home Country.
Remove the benefits that keep them here.

They will make the decision to go home


12 posted on 06/11/2014 5:03:16 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Grover is a long-festering pox on the conservative body politic.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 5:04:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

norquist is no conservative.


14 posted on 06/11/2014 5:05:55 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: b4its2late
A overpaid K street vultures who traitorous ass needs to removed.

Professional liar and con man

15 posted on 06/11/2014 5:06:51 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: rdcbn

Anything the gubmint comes up with will be screwing the rest of us. BIGTIME!


16 posted on 06/11/2014 5:07:39 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rdcbn

We desperately need immigration ENFORCEMENT. Enforce the laws already on the books.


17 posted on 06/11/2014 5:08:40 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Two days ago every pundit and pol was saying this election was a referendum on Amnesty. They were saying that if Cantor’s “margin of victory” was small it would be the death knell for amnesty. Surprise, surprise.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 5:08:53 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rdcbn

And passing another law that is not enforced will do what?
Secure the border now and we can talk later.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 5:08:53 AM PDT by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: rdcbn

20 posted on 06/11/2014 5:09:33 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Saying Norquist a prominent conservative is like saying Obama a model centrist ......

Nuff said.


21 posted on 06/11/2014 5:09:52 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: rdcbn

Try “law enforcement” before any reform. We pay billions per year for “law enforcement” across who knows how many differnt agencies. Put’em to work on the tens of thousands of pages of laws already on the books........


22 posted on 06/11/2014 5:09:53 AM PDT by JParris
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To: Diogenesis

Probably because his wife is or was a muslim!


23 posted on 06/11/2014 5:10:34 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: cp124
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24 posted on 06/11/2014 5:17:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
it depends on the media narrative that emerges...

i.e. the spin will continue.

25 posted on 06/11/2014 5:21:58 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There are several different ways in which the direction of immigration reform may follow.

The simplest, but not necessarily easiest, is to simply annex Mexico, much like Puerto Rico. The border may then be freely crossed, both directions, and the authority of the US Military to move against the drug cartels is much expedited. A few drone attacks and coordinated raids on their strongholds should sufficiently break the cartels’ influence, to the degree that it will be safe to live in Mexico again.

First, make the ironclad requirement that English becomes the legal and only accepted language in law and commerce of the United States. Mexicans then become US subjects, not citizens, so long as they remain in Mexico. Crossing the frontier from the annexed lands to the incorporated and recognized states within the United States, changes their status from subject to citizen, but unless they are sufficiently fluent in English language to converse freely, there shall remain many doors closed to them, in employment, in applying for benefits, or in daily commerce.

As the various existing subdivisions within Mexico become fluent in English, adopting it as the official language, and change their code of laws to conform with the US Code and those of the existing 50 states of the United States, they may apply for statehood in their own right.

Another way would be to restrict legal immigration only to those who can bring something to the table that will benefit the US, in terms of education, expertise in some desirable field of enterprise, or capability of full self-support. Other visitors to the US who do not expect to be permanent residents or engage on a path to citizenship, would be regulated and compelled to register their presence at all times while within this country, and show they have the means for returning to their homeland or other destination when their visitation period has expired. This would involve much more scrutiny of those who actually enter the country, and holding in a facility to review their status on an individual basis, before release.

Those who come to America, expecting to gain citizenship, have the duty and responsibility to become Americans. Should they choose NOT to make the emotional and intellectual changes to conform to the principles of the American Ideal, they may return to wherever they came from, or to whatever locality will accept their divergent views.


26 posted on 06/11/2014 5:24:51 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Grover Norquist is Not a conservative.

Grover Norquist’s troubling ties to Islamic supremacists and jihadists have been known for years. He and his Palestinian wife, Samah Alrayyes, who was director of communications for his Islamic Free Market Institute until they married in 2005, are very active in “Muslim outreach.” Just six weeks after 9/11, The New Republic ran an expose explaining how Norquist arranged for George W. Bush to meet with fifteen Islamic supremacists at the White House on September 26, 2001 .

Frank Gaffney prepared a dossier on Norquist and Suhail Khan, The article is titled “A Jihadist in the Heart of the Conservative Movement.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2993181/posts


27 posted on 06/11/2014 5:29:34 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sorry Sistah, if you are backing Amnesty (Comprehensive Immigration Reform) you ain’t a conservative.


28 posted on 06/11/2014 5:32:06 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boehner needs to go, Period. Is it redundant to put a period after you write “period”? Anyway, Boehner is and has been in the way. If he does do anything that resembles fighting, it will be a show. His goals are the same as 0’s: to strip us of liberty.


29 posted on 06/11/2014 5:36:47 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: rdcbn

They’re illiterate, disease ridden, and often criminal. Most are here for welfare.


30 posted on 06/11/2014 5:38:11 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hey Grover, it was about amnesty and nothing but amnesty.

Despite being outspent at least 10 to 1 Brat won by 11 percent!

Brat made it about Cantor’s amnesty and Brat won. At Cantor’s concession speech his supporters were screaming “What do we want? Immigration reform! When do we want it? Now!”

Amnesty LOST.


31 posted on 06/11/2014 5:41:02 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS ALREADY!


32 posted on 06/11/2014 5:41:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Norquist is not conservative, liars.


33 posted on 06/11/2014 6:10:11 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m all for immigration reform if it firmly, forever,closes our borders to illegals, and prevents any illegal immigrant from ever getting a path to USA citizenship and the right to vote in USA elections. No illegal immgrant that has broken USA law on entry into the country must ever get USA citizenship or the right to vote!!! End of story!!!


34 posted on 06/11/2014 6:17:39 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: Rapscallion

They want the country secure against the invaders before we let the immigrants in, in an orderly legal process (not an invasion, Mr Obama).

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Too late, I’m afraid. Or have you not read about the tsunami of illegals that Obamugabe is unleashing upon us, as the Soros Administration tries to claim that there are alien minors that just happen to keep showing up at the border? We are toast.


35 posted on 06/11/2014 6:25:19 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who cares what Grover says?


36 posted on 06/11/2014 6:28:33 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: rdcbn

More than 1 in 10 of the people currently residing within the borders of the United States is has entered the country illegally and is an illegal alien living here illegally

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No problem. The regime is in the process of making those numbers much larger with all of the illegals it is transporting across the border and housing at military bases. Obama doesn’t need laws, nor do these aliens.

Goodbye, national sovereignty and rule of law. Nice knowing you, USA.


37 posted on 06/11/2014 6:28:44 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Grover is a “conservative”? Who knew?


38 posted on 06/11/2014 6:37:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Send illegals home... that’s reform.


39 posted on 06/11/2014 6:38:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Pound sand, Grover. What Obama is doing to these children and to our country is a moral disgrace. Joining the rush to crush our economy is your personal disgrace. You say you're some sort of tax watch guy; so where did your fondness for Cloward and Piven come from?


40 posted on 06/11/2014 7:20:46 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Diogenesis

Here is a “third” TEA Party Platform:

* Close and seal the Southern US Border, all 2,000 + miles of it.

* Cancel NAFTA.

* Abolish all Federal, State and Local Welfare payments to non-citizens of the USA.

* Block all money transfers to Mexico, or other any Country South of our Southern Border.

* Have lunch.

* After lunch, pass and sign Federal Penalty law to anyone who hires an Illegal Alien Invader, with a fine of $1,000 per day per alien.

* String Concertina Wire Holding-Pen Stockades at 100 mile intervals for the newly captured gotta-ways.

* Be as hostile to Mexicans as the Mexicans have been to the US Marine held and tortured in Prison by the Mexican Guards for the last two months.

* Hire Greyhound Bus Company to transport Illegal Alien Invaders to Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Chain Link Desert Spa near Phoenix, Arizona.

* Have supper.


41 posted on 06/11/2014 7:22:39 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So much kibuki theater with these pro amnesty shills. Obama has opened the flood gates, is pushing for his self inflicted humanitarian aid package and has already made it known that he will EO amnesty into law if congress doesn’t play ball.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 7:30:22 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Baynative

this was using children as a photo op.

remember the 15 year old drug dealer who was a mass murderer?

This was supposed to be “cover” to use the “for the children” excuse.

Are these orphans?

no

Will their parents “claim them” after Amnesty? yes

IOW each “child pawn” represents an entire family’s amnesty anchor.


43 posted on 06/11/2014 7:39:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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