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Prosecutor: Seattle campus shooter went off meds
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 11 june 2014

Posted on 06/11/2014 5:24:32 AM PDT by rellimpank

SEATTLE — The man charged with killing one student and wounding two others at a small Seattle college last week had stopped taking his medications because he "wanted to feel the hate," and he detailed his plans in a handwritten journal for two weeks before the attack, a prosecutor said Tuesday.

"I just want people to die, and I'm gonna die with them!" Aaron Ybarra wrote the day of the shooting, King County Prosecutor Dan Satterberg said.

Satterberg released new details of the allegations as he filed charges of first-degree murder, attempted murder and assault against Ybarra, 26. Satterberg is seeking a sentence of life in prison.

Authorities say Ybarra has been held without bail and is on suicide watch at the county jail since a student pepper-sprayed him and ended the rampage Thursday at Seattle Pacific University.

Ybarra's lawyer, Ramona Brandes, has said her client has a long history of mental issues but is aware of the trauma caused by the shooting and is sorry. She said Tuesday that no decision has been made yet on whether he will seek a mental-illness defense.

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1 posted on 06/11/2014 5:24:32 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

that’s what these nutcases always do, they feel numb on meds so they go off them


2 posted on 06/11/2014 5:26:50 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rellimpank

Ybarra; citizenship?????


3 posted on 06/11/2014 5:29:22 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: rellimpank

100 bucks says the guy voted for Obama and is a stalwart Dem.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 5:29:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rellimpank
Prosecutor: Seattle campus shooter went off meds

Funny, back in the days BEFORE all these meds were invented, there weren't nearly as many killing sprees. I guess the libs will now be pushing for "meds" to be added to the water supply.

5 posted on 06/11/2014 5:31:58 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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To: rellimpank

Too bad there are no laws against people with “a long history of mental issues” getting their hands on firearms.


6 posted on 06/11/2014 5:31:58 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: rellimpank
Unexpected
7 posted on 06/11/2014 5:34:19 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: rellimpank
had stopped taking his medications because he "wanted to feel the hate,"


Meds made him feel like a Pubbie and couldn't take it any longer.
8 posted on 06/11/2014 5:35:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: tomkat

Add him to the list of mass killers who were on anti-depressants/psychotics.


9 posted on 06/11/2014 5:36:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: rellimpank

He was dx’d with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? What med’s was he on? I haven’t seen the actual name, just “medications” on different stories.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 5:38:24 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: Steely Tom
"Too bad there are no laws against people with “a long history of mental issues” getting their hands on firearms. "

Actually enforcing the laws we now might cause hurty feelers for some precious little snowflakes. Easier for politicians to pass even more ineffective laws, to give the appearance of "doing something".

11 posted on 06/11/2014 5:40:34 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: rellimpank

Found it. Ybarra said he was prescribed Risperdal and Prozac for Psychosis/Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 5:41:41 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: sockmonkey

Treats schizophrenia and certain problems caused by bipolar disorder


13 posted on 06/11/2014 5:45:02 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk
Treats schizophrenia and certain problems caused by bipolar disorder

Risperdal is heavy. It's prescribed when people are hearing voices, experiencing hallucinations and disorganized thinking. Withdrawal from Risperdal must be done very carefully.

Prozac is - of course - no walk in the park either.

14 posted on 06/11/2014 5:53:02 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: sockmonkey

Have you seen these sites?

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/casualties.htm

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/introduction.htm

Also the cop killers in Vegas were on meth.

Wake yup America.


15 posted on 06/11/2014 6:02:31 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (MY COUNTRY WAS OF THEE!!!!)
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To: Steely Tom
Too bad there are no laws against people with “a long history of mental issues” getting their hands on firearms.

Define "long history." I went to a therapist for over a year when I was a pre-teen after my parents divorced. I learned a lot of good anger management and coping skills from those sessions. Should that bar me from owning a gun?

16 posted on 06/11/2014 6:02:48 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Steely Tom; rellimpank

He had a long history of disturbed and violent behavior and had been institutionalized twice before.

Why wasn’t he permanently or at least long-term institutionalized?

People who have bipolar disorder are notorious for ceasing their medications because they actually like the way it feels when they are on a run, so to speak. It frequently ends with suicide, btw.


17 posted on 06/11/2014 6:04:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: yldstrk

At odds here, I believe, are two very large, DC-embedded PACs: big Guns (AKA: the NRA) and big Pharma. The NRA and other organizations like it have the defense of our founding principals in mind. We’re trying to turn back a century of legal garbage that’s made gun ownership burdensome.

Meanwhile, big Pharma is pumping the citizenry full of drugs that were oftentimes rubber-stamped by the FDA for approved use.

We have myriad examples of people “going nuts” due to pharmaceutical abuse and/or withdrawal, yet one would be incredibly hard-pressed to find a case where a lawful, stable gun owner “went nuts.” Seems the focus should be shifted, but we all know that’s not going to happen.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 6:06:42 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rellimpank

Aaron Ybarra

19 posted on 06/11/2014 6:06:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Maybe they need to update the warning labels on those psychotropic drugs.


20 posted on 06/11/2014 6:07:13 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rellimpank

SEATTLE – In 2010, Aaron Ybarra called 911 to report “a rage inside him” and said he wanted to hurt himself and others, according to a police report of the incident.

Two years later, officers responded again — this time finding him lying in the middle of the street in front of his suburban Mountlake Terrace home, ranting drunkenly for a SWAT team “to get him and make him famous.”


21 posted on 06/11/2014 6:08:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: rellimpank

We have no remaining mental health capability in this country

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/mallorymillett/no-gun-ever-killed-anyone/


22 posted on 06/11/2014 6:14:41 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rarestia
Define "long history." I went to a therapist for over a year when I was a pre-teen after my parents divorced. I learned a lot of good anger management and coping skills from those sessions. Should that bar me from owning a gun?

I don't think anyone other than severely mentally ill people should be barred from owning guns.

By "severely mentally ill," I mean people who we used to put in insane asylums. People who have been violent, people who are exhibit psychotic delusions or other obvious symptoms.

Were you institutionalized? Were you psychotic? Did you hear voices? Did you use violence against others? If so, then I would answer your question with a "yes." If not, "no."

Of course, I believe that sane people should be allowed to arm themselves. I also believe that people who are clearly mentally ill (it's not that hard to spot such people, at least if you're not constrained by the now-thoroughly-politicized DSM-5) should be institutionalized for their own protection as well as that of society. If they act out in ways that endanger others, they might be shot.

23 posted on 06/11/2014 6:17:28 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: kcvl

Re the photo of Mr. Ybarra, there’s more proof that the Neanderthal genes remain in the populace.


24 posted on 06/11/2014 6:42:49 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: rellimpank
If the 2nd A had been repealed 50 years ago and private citizens were now forbidden to possess firearms this tragic murder could, and probably would, still have been committed. Privately owned guns have been outlawed in Russia for at least a century, except long guns for licensed hunters and those are limited and strictly controlled, yet according to a study by two Harvard professors the current Russian murder rate is almost four times that of the US.

A Molotov cocktail thrown into a crowded school room could easily kill and maim as many or more kids than a madman with a firearm that the hoplophobic media invariably describes as an "assault weapon". In the media's dictionary, any firearm more modern than Davie Crockett's flintlock squirrel rifle when used in a crime automatically becomes a dreaded ""assault weapon" that somehow induced it's otherwise sane and law abiding possessor to open fire on innocent men, women, and children. How stupid do they think we are?

On second thought, the majority of "us" probably are as stupid as they think since an unreasoning fear of firearms has been drilled into "us" for decades.

25 posted on 06/11/2014 6:46:40 AM PDT by epow ("In the beginning GOD created the heavens and earth" Genisis 1:1)
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To: rarestia
Too bad there are no laws against people with “a long history of mental issues” getting their hands on firearms.

I believe Steely Tom left off the "/s" tag. As you know, there are innumerable laws already, they just don't seem to work. So then, the real solution is to add stronger laws that can do nothing to reduce the risk. But at least we can feel better about ourselves. :)

26 posted on 06/11/2014 6:57:53 AM PDT by D Rider (Don't give sharp objects to small children)
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To: rellimpank

as said here many times, the biggest problem we have in controlling violence is the mental health system - especially the mental health professionals - especially psychiatrists. They are so keen on protecting the so called rights of the pycho and let the public be damned.


27 posted on 06/11/2014 7:18:12 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: D Rider; rarestia
As you know, there are innumerable laws already, they just don't seem to work.

Exactly. Not only that, but it seems that laws that are designed to keep firearms out of the hands of mentally ill people, criminals, and juveniles are not enforced, possibly intentionally.

28 posted on 06/11/2014 7:20:43 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Steely Tom
According to ads on TV Risperdal makes men grow boobs. No further comment.
29 posted on 06/11/2014 7:29:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rellimpank
Voices in My Head
30 posted on 06/11/2014 8:02:59 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: yldstrk

Noted gun law author Clayton Cramer wrote a good book on this called “My Brother Ron”.

http://www.amazon.com/My-Brother-Ron-Personal-Deinstitutionalization/dp/1477667539/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402501192&sr=8-1&keywords=my+brother+ron


31 posted on 06/11/2014 8:39:06 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: epow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

The Bath School disaster refers to the series of violent attacks perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927, in Bath Township, Michigan, that killed 38 elementary school children and six adults in total, and injured at least 58 other people.[Note 1] Kehoe first killed his wife, fire-bombed his farm and set off a major explosion in the Bath Consolidated School, before committing suicide by detonating a final explosion in his truck. It is the deadliest mass murder in a school in United States history


32 posted on 06/11/2014 8:43:13 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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