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Russia and China Are Executing a Plan We Ignore at Our Peril
American Thinker ^ | 06/11/2014 | Alexandra Farkas

Posted on 06/11/2014 7:44:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind


And while the world is distracted by what Russia is doing on its Western Borders, we ought to look with concern at the growing friendship it is forming to the East. A friendship that has blossomed on the foundation of economic and military cooperation, including a recent multi-billion dollar natural gas deal, cemented with a mutual desire for expansion and an unabashed distaste for America as the world leader.

China’s path over the last two decades is remarkably similar to Russia’s. It has grown from a third world nation, isolated from the wealth of free markets, to a capitalist-totalitarian hybrid, with a booming economy, quickly advancing military capability, strong media censorship and a poor human rights record. The Tiger looks east for its conquests; full control of Taiwan, the East China Sea, and the South China Sea are that nation’s near term goals. And like Russia, when Chinese leadership believes that there will be little or no consequences for its actions it will act.

China will continue its slow progression of forcing Filipino, Vietnamese and Japanese vessels out of the maritime areas under dispute, and will continue the buildup of forces in the Taiwan Strait until they believe an international intervention would be untenable; then they will annex Taiwan, sooner than we may think, and it won’t stop there.

The ambitions and the ideology echoed by Russia and China run eerily parallel to the mutual interests which brought Hitler and Mussolini together. And like the WWII Axis of Evil, the development of Russia and China’s military technology and doctrine is being done in peacetime, with all signs pointing towards the nations’ full anticipation of war. Their military goals are clearly to counter the military capabilities of the West.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; military; russia

1 posted on 06/11/2014 7:44:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

An economic and military axis has formed practically under our noses, and has seemingly gone unnoticed and unremarked by the Current Regime. The Russian Federation, and Vladimir Putin thumb their noses at us with almost total immunity, and there is not one effective step the Current Occupant now squatting in the White Hut, is either able or willing to take to counter this geopolitical chess game move.

Soon it shall be that territory once known as “the United States of America” that will be isolated and begging at the doorsteps of the world.

There was a time when France was among the most feeble and pitiful of lands. We are about to go through just such a transformation.

2 posted on 06/11/2014 7:56:28 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: SeekAndFind

China will expand, but not only to the South. I wouldn’t be surprised if parts of Siberian Russia wind up with an Asian version of reconquista, with more Chinese than Russian population.

3 posted on 06/11/2014 7:57:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

The only redeeming feature is that they have been enemies under the surface for centuries.

4 posted on 06/11/2014 7:57:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: alloysteel


* Russia’s SA-20 was designed to shoot down the PATRIOT missile,

* China’s DF-21D Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile was developed to destroy the top deck of an Aircraft Carrier.

According to this site:

We have a little over 1.5 Million deployed military personnel. China on the other hand has over 2.2 Million in their military and because they have 5 times our population, can increase that by several times through DRAFTING.

5 posted on 06/11/2014 8:01:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The US no longer has an independent and self sufficient manufacturing base and is rapidly losing control of its food supply. In a conventional war with China we would lose access to the Asian factories that produce our clothing, our electronics and our consumer goods. Rebuilding the manufacturing self sufficiency that existed at the beginning of WWII would take years and we would likely not have time.

If China could take out our carriers with missiles or subs, we would be unable to project our military power. Remember it was only a few years ago that a Chinese submarine surfaced undetected in the middle of a US carrier task force.

Obama has stated an intent to reduce the US nuclear arsenal to 300 weapons and ultimately to eliminate it. Given his behavior as CINC, with a compliant Joint Chiefs of Staff it may be he has already secretly unilaterally terminated our nuclear arsenal.

The nation is extremely vulnerable to an EMP first strike. We have limited visibility from satellites launched into polar orbit and approaching from the south. Russia and/or China could easily arrange for North Korea to launch an EMP attack against the US from a satellite approaching from the south. If there was any retaliation from our submarine fleet it would be directed against North Korea and not the Chinese or Russian mainland. All our enemies have to do is wait a year for 2/3 to 3/4 of the US population to die when the electrical grid goes down and the food supply chain terminates. At that point China can unload millions of colonists on the west coast while commandeering our natural resources. Game over.

6 posted on 06/11/2014 8:01:23 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just saying:

Last year America bought 440 billion dollars of goods from China.

During the same year, China bought just 122 billion dollars from America.

A one-year deficit, of over 300 billion dollars.

7 posted on 06/11/2014 8:05:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to mention the advancements being made by both countries in small arms and conventional warfare technology. They’ll be fielding advanced small arms in then next year or two while we regurgitate the M16 platform again.

Thanks to the Hughes Amendment... also known as 922 (o) or the machine gun ban, all tech in this area has ground to a halt. Every small arm platform being used today by our military is a regurgitation of designs made prior to the 1986 ban. Many even predate the 1968 GCA.

Those laws effectively stopped R&D into small arms technology in this country. For manufacturers, there is no way to recoup the costs of developing advanced full auto small arms to counter what our enemies have developed. We’ve been stagnant for almost half a century.

If a war happens between the US and China or Russia and we lose our electronic warfare advantage, we are going to be in a world of hurt and we will not win that war.

922 (o) is a serious threat to national security that Congress refuses to address. I’ve tried countless times to get them to understand what is happening but they don’t care. The political BS has put us in a very bad situation that I fear will come to fruition far sooner than expected.

In 2009, I was asked to examine a rifle captured by our troops in the middle east. The rifle was decades ahead of anything I’d ever seen before. It incorporated technology to mitigate recoil, cyclic rate, stabilization and used an operating system that was extremely efficient and well thought out. The rifle appeared to be a finished product, not a prototype or one off.

And yet, our elected officials continue to hold on to the ban for political expedience rather than do what is right for our nation and allow the firearms industry to have a reason to develop new technology to counter what our enemies have. The Government here isn’t paying for R&D on small arms. It’s too engrossed in electronic warfare tech to worry about it.

So, to be blunt, our elected officials worry more about public perception instead of national security while our enemies continue to advance their capabilities. Every one of our elected officials will bear the cross of their hubris for this should we go to war with China or Russia.

8 posted on 06/11/2014 8:13:31 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

they found a Tavor?

9 posted on 06/11/2014 8:27:36 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

No, something much more advanced.

10 posted on 06/11/2014 8:37:32 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Soul of the South

The US no longer has an independent and self sufficient manufacturing base and is rapidly losing control of its food supply.
agree about the manufacturing. However, currently 50% of american manfacturers in China are making plans to reshore their operations in the USA. Further the USA is about to inaugurate a major league manufacturing revolution with the coming of 3d printing and advanced robotics. We’re in the early 1980’s microsoft/apple days on that.

I don’t know where you get the part about losing control of food supply. The midwest is going gang buster busters not just because of oil but also because of high grain prices robust crops and large grain exports.

11 posted on 06/11/2014 8:45:38 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: SeekAndFind

Among other things, they’re banding together to try to destroy our currency and economy — not that we’re not doing a fine job of that ourselves.

12 posted on 06/11/2014 9:09:05 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: BCR #226
Exceptional post which casts light on a real danger to America's ability to fight conventioal wars in the 21st century.

I recently posted a report here which suggests that Colt Defense might go bankrupt in larger measure to a decline of military contract orders.

13 posted on 06/11/2014 9:39:20 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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14 posted on 06/11/2014 1:56:47 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: ckilmer

“I don’t know where you get the part about losing control of food supply.”

Food imports are rising rapidly:

USDA has recently allowed US chickens to be sent to China for processing and returned to the US. This action is being permitted despite widespread outbreaks of bird flu and SARS in China plus major health and safety issues with Chinese food processing. Chicken processing is highly labor intensive and this approval could dramatically shift the chicken supply chain in the US to Asia.

15 posted on 06/11/2014 2:36:38 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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