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The Real ObamaCare Numbers: 6 Million Obamacare Sign-ups are Medicaid and the number is growing
American Thinker ^ | 06/11/2014 | Chriss Street

Posted on 06/11/2014 7:56:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services disclosed that 6 million of the 8 million people who signed-up for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) will be receiving healthcare from Medicaid that is so affordable it is free. The revelation that seventy-five percent of the expansion of health insurance is Medicaid comes just 48 hours after the Department of Health and Human Services said many of the other 2 million that had “purchased” insurance on HealthCare.gov“ may have received greater subsidies than merited or were allowed to purchase plans for which they were ineligible.” Given the huge influx in border crossings, it appears ObamaCare is continuing to enroll large numbers of illegal aliens.

Registration was originally scheduled from “October 1, 2013–March 31, 2014”  But the Obama Administration announced an extension of enrollment through mid-April. During the two week period, 1.1 million people were enrolled in Medicare, according to the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

But the HealthCare.gov website is still offering “ObamaCare Special Enrollment Period.” Reasonable exemptions for late registration include marriage, divorce and adoption. But a continuous Special Enrollment period is available to “An individual, who was not previously a citizen, national, or lawfully present individual gains such status.” 

Lawfully present individuals according to the Obama Administration’s Executive Order for “Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors,” commonly referred to as “DREAMers,” includes:

“Unauthorized immigrants who are under the age of 31; entered the United States before age 16; have lived continuously in the country for at least five years; have not been convicted of a felony, a “significant” misdemeanor, or three other misdemeanors; and are currently in school, graduated from high school, earned a GED, or served in the military.”


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: medicaid; obamacare

1 posted on 06/11/2014 7:56:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT... JOE WILSON WAS RIGHT


2 posted on 06/11/2014 7:57:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My view of all this is that we are going to see a exponentially increased number of general practitioners who will not be accepting any more Medicare or Medicaid patients. This probably will result in many cases where the doctors’ rolls are going to be limited to those patients with ‘real’ insurance.

Gee. Thanks Obama!


3 posted on 06/11/2014 8:00:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind
..... the Department of Health and Human Services said many of the other 2 million that had “purchased” insurance on HealthCare.gov“ may have received greater subsidies than merited or were allowed to purchase plans for which they were ineligible.”

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The folks in this group can read this and weep:

Are ObamaCare's Tax Credits Harmless? The Little Understood Dark Side Of The Subsidies

By accepting a tax credit, low-income or lower-middle class families face significant tax ramifications and potential financial risk. Congress has changed the rules twice on consumers for the credits, making the income cliffs steeper, and fully equipping the IRS to claw back overpaid subsidies (unlike the individual mandate penalty).

The flip side of the tax credits is almost unknown to the general public.

4 posted on 06/11/2014 8:03:25 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: Gaffer

RE: My view of all this is that we are going to see a exponentially increased number of general practitioners who will not be accepting any more Medicare or Medicaid patients

The Obama solution -— FORCE them to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients under threat of confiscation of their license to practice medicine.

Hey, if they can force people to buy healthcare and force Christians to pay for abortion and Catholics to pay for other people’s contraceptives, this is but the next stepin the chain of things they plan to do.

Unconstitutional you say?

See: Roberts, John.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 8:04:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Free health care for the “professional voters” was always the intention of this legislation.

More wealth transfer from our community organizer in chief.


6 posted on 06/11/2014 8:12:09 AM PDT by wrench
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To: SeekAndFind

See tag line.


7 posted on 06/11/2014 8:16:41 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, they can try, but that kind of thing doesn’t work very well, at least not in this country. Force me to accept Medicaid? Fine, I close my business. Force me to bake a gay wedding cake? Fine, I only bake cupcakes now.

Liberals haven’t learned the lessons that communists and fascists already know: you have to take the freedom away first, before you can force people to act the way you want them too.


8 posted on 06/11/2014 8:19:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

According to plan, totally destroy private health insurance to make way for single payer.


9 posted on 06/11/2014 8:19:03 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SeekAndFind

Medicare and Medicaid are inherently terrible ideas, proposed and signed in by a bunch of Commie Democrats and the well known Marxist LBJ. We need to shift the Overton Window towards complete privatization or the dismantling of these Marxist programs, rather than accept the government waste and ignorance of market forces which encompass these bills. Medicaid is basically Hussein Osama”s blueprint for his destruction of the American health care system (really, it could be said that LBJ was the person to plan out the government destruction of American freedoms, with Hussein simply following his orders).


10 posted on 06/11/2014 8:19:15 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: wrench

I know. Isn’t “free” health care just GREAT! I’m just thrilled about all this. The ads running in the Reno market portray a 2 income family that, despite them both working, can’t quite afford health insurance for themselves and two kids. But now, thanks to obiecare, the government will help pay for part of the costs. Woo Hoo! I’m lucky(maybe not) there is still a working TV in the house I get so cranked up when I see those ads. Hey asshats. The government doesn’t have any money. It’s my money and millions of other tax payers. I don’t know about you but my health care costs are a little more than a third of my retirement check. So, pardon me if I don’t really feel like paying their medical premiums.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 8:20:38 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: SeekAndFind

Government baiting and switching


12 posted on 06/11/2014 8:21:57 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve experienced ‘refusal’ in a subtle manner. They decide what your insurance is worth and how much trouble and liability you present as a patient and you get put on a ‘do not allow list’.

They simply won’t give you an appointment. Millions of excuses and “call us back next week” but no appointment.

They can ‘force’ a doctor to take Medicare and Medicaid, but they cannot make them give an appointment.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 8:25:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Yeah, I’d keep a wary distance from Coulter and Ingraham if I were Palin, too.

But Coulter and Ingraham have both been 100 times more outspoken against illegal immigration and amnesty.

I’m sorry Palin hasn’t fought on the issue.


14 posted on 06/11/2014 8:32:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind; All
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15 posted on 06/11/2014 8:33:17 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind
“Unauthorized immigrants who are under the age of 31; entered the United States before age 16; have lived continuously in the country for at least five years; have not been convicted of a felony, a “significant” misdemeanor, or three other misdemeanors; and are currently in school, graduated from high school, earned a GED, or served in the military.”

Which describes 0% of all the new people storming our border now.

16 posted on 06/11/2014 8:40:46 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: SeekAndFind

At some point in time the lowest of low information tax paying Americans will think, “So, I can’t afford health insurance, but I have to pay for someone who doesn’t work to have health insurance. And on top of that, I pay a fine for not being able to afford it.”


17 posted on 06/11/2014 8:44:24 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: rktman

A lot of so-called “Americans” can act like Communists if you make the suggestion that people who can’t or won’t pay for their own health care ought to die. It’s unfortunate that it might be politically toxic to advocate for the government completely leaving health care; many RINOs try to argue that they are bigger defenders of Medicare than the Dementocrats.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 8:55:51 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: 9YearLurker

Why would Sarah Palin have any qualms about keeping distance from Laura Ingram? I might could see that with Ann Coulter, but from Laura? No way. Sarah Palin shouldn’t be at all queasy about standing up for sovereignty, IMO.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 8:57:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mom.mom

RE: And on top of that, I pay a fine for not being able to afford it.

That one is practically unenforceable and in effect — useless. You can always claim HARDSHIP on your tax filing and the IRS won’t have the time to check your definition of “hardship”.

I know of many who did that among my circle of acquaintances and they still got their refund.


20 posted on 06/11/2014 8:58:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Gaffer

If Palin stood up for sovereignty and against amnesty in a major outspoken manner she would have the support of the people but lose all support from the GOP. I know people say Laura is against amnesty and I don;t listen to her regularly but I know I heard her state on air I think over a year ago that she was for it in the sense that it was inevitable. She had given in much like Savage did not to long ago and accepted the arguments of the dems as Hillary has stated it is inevitable so just get on board. I’m positive I heard her make the argument as I heard her do it twice in one week and had to turn off the radio.


21 posted on 06/11/2014 9:09:31 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. The gay wedding cake. They forced a Christian business to either create something obscene to them, violate their faith and conscience, or refuse service and be closed down. That was a private business. The bastards would have no problem at all forcing doctors and clinics to comply.


22 posted on 06/11/2014 9:12:10 AM PDT by grom
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To: Sheapdog

What you say could be true. I also don’t listen to her that much.

I only know now that GOP establishment to me is about as duplicitous and deviously self-centered as the Democrat Party. And, if any of them espouse the “it is inevitable” nonsense, then they are uncaring and spiritless and their motives should be rightly questioned.

Today’s politicians aren’t working for us, for our children and our grand children; too many of them seem to be only working for their comfortable second-tier power Obama and the Democrats give them, and they absolutely hate it when you make them even have to work hard to get reelected.


23 posted on 06/11/2014 9:16:23 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Of the eight million Obama and Pelosi brag about, 6 million were Medicaid, a significant number of the remainder never paid or were not eligible for the plans they purchased, and a significant number had health insurance before ObamaCare cancelled their existing plans. I can’t wait to hear the real number of previously uninsured who gained insurance because of ObamaCare. While the FedGov power grab is the obvious justification for this terrible law, regardless of how much harm is does, I’d guess the Dems will have trouble campaigning on, “7 million good plans cancelled because of ObamaCare, but we got insurance for 30,000 people who were previously uninsured!”


24 posted on 06/11/2014 9:32:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wow...There were a bazillion mind readers here at FR.

So who knew?? We all did!!

25 posted on 06/11/2014 9:36:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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