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Elites Beware: Eric Cantor's Defeat May Signal a Populist Revolution
National Journal ^ | June 11, 2014 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 06/11/2014 10:16:11 AM PDT by Art in Idaho

WEST CHESTER, Pa—Expecting House Majority Leader Eric Cantor to win his GOP primary in Virginia, I spent Election Day in Pennsylvania—interviewing angry Republicans, Democrats, and independents about the rise of political populism.

I was in the wrong state, but I had the right topic. Cantor's defeat has less to do with immigration reform than it does with an uneven movement that should frighten conservative and liberal political elites to their shallow cores.

Americans see a grim future for themselves, their children and their country. They believe their political leaders are selfish, greedy, and short-sighted—unable and/or unwilling to shield most people from wrenching economic and social change. For many, the Republican Party is becoming too extreme, while the Democratic Party—specifically, President Obama—raised and dashed their hopes for true reform.

Worse of all, the typical American doesn't know how to channel his or her anger. Heaven help Washington if they do.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: brat; cantor; elections; obama; politics; populist; teaparty; va2014
"Which side of the barricade are you on?"

"An American Party – what does that mean? For months, I've heard that phrase or similar anti-establishment sentiment from voters in Michigan, Arkansas, South Carolina, and elsewhere—whites and nonwhites; voters who are poor and rich and from the shrinking middle-class; Democrats, Republicans, and independents. "We need American leaders, not Republican and Democratic leaders," a construction workers in Little Rock, Ark., told me last month."

1 posted on 06/11/2014 10:16:11 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

“or many, the Republican Party is becoming too extreme”

again with the talking points.

Positions that Clinton held are now considered extreme right wing.


2 posted on 06/11/2014 10:18:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Why 'populist' ... couldn't it also be 'conservative' ?

Populist sounds too close to 'democratic' to my ears.

3 posted on 06/11/2014 10:18:22 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Art in Idaho

It’s too late for “Can’t we all just get along?” We need a populist revolt to destroy our effete elite and restore at least some parts of what used to be America.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 10:18:25 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Art in Idaho

IMHO, the “revolt” has started, in Virgina with the voting out of Rep. Eric Cantor.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 10:20:06 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: knarf

Or better yet.............”conservative/populist”.


6 posted on 06/11/2014 10:21:24 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Art in Idaho
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7 posted on 06/11/2014 10:22:18 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Art in Idaho

The author doesn’t seem to think that Obama is radical. He also starts with the premise that more government is the answer. My less is more, non interventionist stance is a hard sell. Telling Joe Bag O’ Donuts that less government solutions are the answer just doesn’t resonate with most people and is inherently counter intuitive.


8 posted on 06/11/2014 10:22:43 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Biggirl

Just remember:

Ballot Box —> soap box -—> cartridge box.


9 posted on 06/11/2014 10:23:21 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Art in Idaho

They are still missing the mark. But they are getting warmer.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 10:25:33 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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To: knarf

My hope is all people, repubs, dems, indies, all stripes, are starting to ‘get it’ that Washington DC is totally broken and needs a reset. I hope November 4th is a day that will live in infamy.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 10:29:12 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Can’t come soon enough for me.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 10:29:51 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Art in Idaho

I’ve been detecting a populist tsunami on the horizon for several years now.

Problem is they aren’t always a good thing. Sometimes they give you Hitler.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 10:32:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Biggirl
according to Miriam and Webster

con·ser·va·tism noun \kən-ˈsər-və-ˌti-zəm\
: belief in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society
: dislike of change or new ideas in a particular area

Full Definition of CONSERVATISM

1 capitalized
a : the principles and policies of a Conservative party
b : the Conservative party
2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established
b : a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (as retirement income or health-care coverage)
3 : the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change


Populism

Political program or movement that champions the common person, usually by favourable contrast with an elite. Populism usually combines elements of the left and right, opposing large business and financial interests but also frequently being hostile to established socialist and labour parties. In the U.S. the term was applied to the program of the Populist movement of the 1890s.

14 posted on 06/11/2014 10:32:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Biggirl
I hope the revolt has started too. Rush on fire today. The Tea Party is all of America.

Most of Fournier's writings lean left. Sounds like he is seeing the handwriting on the wall.

15 posted on 06/11/2014 10:33:26 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: knarf
I like this part, populist: ". . frequently being hostile to established socialist and labour parties."
16 posted on 06/11/2014 10:36:03 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Tenacious 1
They are still missing the mark. But they are getting warmer.

Well said. If the journalists come to realize they are Americans too, they have families, they have kids and grandchildren that may live in a third world socialist cesspool. . maybe they are starting to think this through. . .

I grew up near Tom Brokaw. I remember him saying, when Obama was elected, and in typical midwesternease, "You know, we really don't know much about this guy (Obama)."

I would like to ask Tom and his cohorts. Do you see what is coming? Do you now understand what Obama meant by "fundamental transformation?" Do you want your grandchildren to deal with socialized medicine, a socialist government, a centralized bloated federal government controlling their everyday lives?

17 posted on 06/11/2014 10:44:27 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Let's take a week off to celebrate Brat's triumph.

Then, let's see what happens next. Will there be a third party involved? Will a magic "Libertarian" be recruited and funded by the Democrats? Will the RNC back Brat?

Anti-Immigration = Racism, as I am sure the Virgina Media will only be too happy to point out. The district in question is a "safe seat," inhabited by "nice people," Mini-Van Soccer Moms, "reasonable" middle-of-the-road white-breads who are susceptible to phony media peer-pressure ... especially the female variety ... who used the same "reasoning" to vote for a Marxist Mulatto of my acquaintance.

18 posted on 06/11/2014 10:44:28 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( A disbarred gay Muslim lawyer from Kenya as POTUS? Sure! What could go wrong?)
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To: Art in Idaho

anarchists like that part also.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 10:46:02 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I heard Brat today on Gleenn's program and, I wasn't impressed.

He stayed just out of conservative statements by this much

20 posted on 06/11/2014 10:47:52 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Art in Idaho
In fact, according to every indication, the entire political class has lost touch.

Yes, indeed. Unless they are from Maryland or Virginia, they don't live in their districts anymore, they live in Washington. They come home infrequently and tuck themselves away in some by invitation only gathering. They sell their vote to the highest bidder as Bill and Hillary Clinton taught them how to do. Until last night, they thought that all you needed to do to win elections was to raise lots of money.

21 posted on 06/11/2014 10:48:59 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Kenny Bunk
those Soccer moms? Constitutional conservatives should be all over the living conditions of those adolescents being herded instead of sent to their homelands. Those moms might talk the talk, but they don't want children, not even speaking English, overwhelming THEIR schools. It might interfere with their adopted Chinese children's education.

Obama overplayed his hand here, if only constituional conservatives get on this issue quickly and demand the children be sent home. What's going on is child abuse and if the US encouraged it and/or doesn't return them, kidnapping.

22 posted on 06/11/2014 10:59:20 AM PDT by grania
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To: Art in Idaho
"For many liberals, the Republican Party is becoming too extreme, while the Democratic Party—specifically, President Obama—raised and dashed their hopes for true reform."

Corrected for grammar and punctuation.

23 posted on 06/11/2014 11:03:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: knarf

“For many, the Republican Party is becoming too extreme, while the Democratic Party—specifically, President Obama—raised and dashed their hopes for true reform.”

Those still left in the Republican Party couldn’t tell you what the difference between the two parties is. If Republicans continue to behave like Democrats, why do we need two parties?
Fed up!


24 posted on 06/11/2014 11:18:00 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I think the politician that wants a longer career will be running as fast as possible to get in front of this crowd and claim that they knew this was coming all along. They will be lying of course but that’s what they will say to keep that gravy position they have lied their way into. There are very few leaders up there, most of them are “me too types” who don’t know whats going on in peoples heads, don’t understand the real fears Americans have about their country at the moment.


25 posted on 06/11/2014 11:22:42 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Art in Idaho

The uppity people!


26 posted on 06/11/2014 11:31:24 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Art in Idaho
An American Party – what does that mean?

Check out America's Party: http://www.selfgovernment.us

27 posted on 06/11/2014 11:32:19 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Cantor's defeat has less to do with immigration reform ....

Yeah...I'm gonna go with "I Doubt That" for $1000, Alex.

28 posted on 06/11/2014 11:34:04 AM PDT by workerbee (`)
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To: Art in Idaho
Now Texans and Virginians have done what needed to be done. Y'all out there in other states pick up the pace and get-r-done. lol

I couldn't be happier to hear this news today. Just brilliant work in Virginia. congrats.

29 posted on 06/11/2014 11:49:31 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: reefdiver
Bears repeating:

"There are very few leaders up there, most of them are “me too types” who don’t know whats going on in peoples heads, don’t understand the real fears Americans have about their country at the moment."

Washington D.C. is like one big bubble. Getting more and more cut off from the American people every year.

30 posted on 06/11/2014 1:34:58 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: driftdiver
“For many, the Republican Party is becoming too extreme”

That is Ron Fournier’s opinion. He has been in Washington too long as well.

31 posted on 06/11/2014 1:42:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Art in Idaho

Fournier began his journalism career in 1985 at The Sentinel-Record in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Two years later, he moved to the Arkansas Democrat in Little Rock, Arkansas. He stayed there for another two years before joining the Little Rock bureau of the AP in 1989. While there, he covered Bill Clinton during his final term as Governor. When Clinton was elected President, Fournier moved to the AP’s Washington bureau.

The 1985 State of the Union address was given by President Ronald Reagan to a joint session of the 99th United States Congress on February 6, 1985. The speech was the first State of the Union address of President Reagan’s second term.

The Democratic Party response was delivered by Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas, Governor Bob Graham of Florida and House Speaker Tip O’Neill

******

Ron Fournier was a ‘reporter’ in Arkansas when all of this happened, yet he still kisses their a**es!

1985 - APRIL

Bill Clinton asked McDougal to host a fund-raiser to pay off
a $50,000 personal loan that Clinton had borrowed to help
finance his 1984 campaign. The event raised $35,000. ( An
article in the USA today states that most of this money came
in the form of cashier checks from Madison Guaranty under
the names of prominent depositors. Those named on the checks
have been contacted and have stated that they never
contributed money to Clinton. This has investigators
examining the possibility the money from Madison was
illegally diverted to Clinton campaign. If true - that
Madison gave money in the name of a depositor without that
person’s knowledge - that would be improper diversion of
depositor funds, a felony.)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/CALENDAR.html

4-4-85: Senator William Fullbright gives a $3,000
contribution - money he just received from McDougal - to
Bill Clinton at a fund raiser at Madison’s Little Rock HQ.
This event was used to retire a $30,000 debt Clinton had
from a loan taken out during his ‘84 campaign. So Hillary
had signed a loan where a portion of the money had been
diverted to others and then given to Bill to retire his
loan. As the Flowerwood account was overdrawn by 4-19, this
is an example of diverting S&L money to Bill while
contributing to the default of Madison.

4-30-85: Hillary Clinton, who represents Madison, proposes
an unusual stock sale to shore up the troubled S&L. This was
described as a “precedent-setting” stock reissue plan to
state regulators to save Madison (Washington Post, 1-24-94).
Madison’s attorneys included a Frost & Co. audit of Madison
to demonstrate its solvency as part of their petition to
state regulators (Los Angeles Times, 1-16-94).

Schaffer approves the deal over the objections of the
banking commission ( and Federal regulators). (Madison was
represented before Schaffer by Hillary Clinton, on retainer
by McDougal at $2,000 a month. McDougal says he hired
Hillary because Bill Clinton begged him to. Schaffer, in a
“Dear Hillary” letter, approved the Stock sale. Federal
regulators complained to Schaffer about McDougals business
practices, but she did nothing.)

December ‘85 -January ‘86 - needing capital to correct the
books for the double pledging (as well as other deals),
McDougal gets in bed with David Hale, Jim Guy Tucker, and
Bill Clinton. They plan a scheme where money from Hale’s
Capital Management Services Inc. will flow to McDougal, Jim
Guy Tucker, and Stephen Smith (once Clinton’s chief of
staff). By January the money begins flowing to these
people. Hale is later placed under indictment for
fraudulently getting federal backing for Capital Management
Services Inc..

1986 - FEBRUARY

David Hale, a local judge ( appointed by Clinton ) and a
federally sponsored tending-company operator, was asked by
Clinton and McDougal to arrange a loan of $300,000 to clean
up dubious loans at Madison S&L. Hale approves the loan for
that amount to McDougal’s wife, claiming one of her
companies qualified as a disadvantaged small business (
minority owned firm.) ( Also, Hale is later indicted on
charges of defrauding the Small Business Administration.)

additional checks from the 300K totaling $36,000 went to
International Paper Realty Co for another land deal. At the
same time, Gov. Clinton gives International Paper Realty Co
a large tax break.

[July, 1986 - At this point, we know that the Flowerwood
Farms note has not been paid because the check won’t be
cashed for 2 more months. Thus, Hillary is still on the
hook for the Flowerwood note (as well as the possibility
that she was a willing participant in the fraudulent double
pledge of the lots). The paper trail still points to
Hillary. Clinton runs into Hale in Little Rock’s University
Plaza Mall and says “Have you heard what that fucking whore
Susan has done?” Hale claimed he did not, and Clinton
rushed off without explaining. Bill is agitated about the
paper trail on Flowerwood as well as the possible sweetheart
deal given International Paper Realty Co and the fact that
both he and Hillary could be in big trouble.]


32 posted on 06/11/2014 2:04:51 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Interesting. Thanks for posting. The Clintons. . .
33 posted on 06/11/2014 2:54:25 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
I hope the revolt has started too. Rush on fire today. The Tea Party is all of America.

I've said it before, REVOLTS AREN'T WON BY VOTES.

We should be surrounding their buildings and houses with torches and pitchforks. These lowlife scumbag parasites have destroyed this country.

34 posted on 06/11/2014 4:24:16 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Art in Idaho

The real message of Cantor’s defeat is that in this era when a duplicitous sack of politician gets a capable, realistic opponent, then the incumbent is going to get tossed out.


35 posted on 06/11/2014 4:39:37 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Art in Idaho

I call bullshit on Ron Fournier.

Did you notice NONE of these self-appointed genius analysts EVER think THEY, THE MEDIA ELITISTS are also part of the problem?

Suddenly Ron is an EXPERT on what the voters think?

And....get this.....Ron wants us to believe *BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM ARE TO BLAME*!!

This is the DEFAULT MODE the media goes into WHENEVER A LIBERAL IS DEFEATED BY A CONSERVATIVE. When a liberal loses, the hyper-drive hits the “This really is a message to everyone.......”

When a CONSERVATIVE is on the losing end, we don’t hear that...we get “The right wing ideology is dead.”

Fournier is searching to be relevant. This ain’t it.


36 posted on 06/11/2014 5:02:21 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: griswold3

Interesting that we see republicans as being to much like democrats. But the democrat voters actually believe that liberal republicans are Nazis.


37 posted on 06/11/2014 5:04:09 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Art in Idaho

Populism means supporting we the sovereign people of the USA instead of globalist corporate interests that will support any country if it makes them more money. I’d vote for a populist, as in making America powerful and sovereign a priority before voting for any establishment politician.

We conservatives were hoodwinked into believing big global business and banks are on our side. Those establishment interests own both Parties. Establishment politicians have drug us into wars, keep us divided as a people, provided bailouts for crooked bankers and want cheap labor and open borders.

They are directly or indirectly responsible for destroying the prosperous USA that represented my youth.

BTW: Long time family in Canyon and Ada


38 posted on 06/11/2014 5:30:19 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Global corporatism is not a conservative's friend. It wants your politicians and sovereignty)
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To: Art in Idaho

America has been run into the ground by a club of elitists with a Harvard degree and NYC pedigree. They run our government and not for the USA. Their plan is to turn us into media pied piper led urban puppets instead of promoting a culture that made the USA independent and self sufficient.


39 posted on 06/11/2014 5:35:16 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Global corporatism is not a conservative's friend. It wants your politicians and sovereignty)
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To: Biggirl

’ the voting out of Rep. Eric Cantor.’

Does this portend the end of the lie-beral party??


40 posted on 06/11/2014 6:10:55 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat
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To: xzins
The real message of Cantor’s defeat is that in this era when a duplicitous sack of politician gets a capable, realistic opponent, then the incumbent is going to get tossed out.

All of us know people who are extremely capable. I hope they decide, just like Brat did, to throw their hat in the ring. I think he, Cruz and others have shown it can be done. This election also show the patriots of America really have to get behind these people when they run.

I'm hoping more step up who have a pro-American, free markets, less government, strong defense, border fence, repeal Obamacare, no amnesty, balance the budget, lower taxes and decreased regulations platform and I think he/she would win. The winning platform really isn't all that complicated. I think the pendulum is swinging back to where most real Americans see the wisdom of such a platform.

Still hoping Sarah Palin decides to run. Storm the Republican National Convention and We the People nominate her!

41 posted on 06/11/2014 7:30:00 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: apoliticalone

Populism to a leftist like Fournier is very different.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 8:25:41 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: knarf

On Hannity today, Brat said that he ran his campaign TOTALLY according to the Virginia Republican Creed, which is bedrock Conservatism. And he added that no other Republicans are doing so.


43 posted on 06/11/2014 10:14:01 PM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic.)
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To: unixfox

I’ve said it before, REVOLTS AREN’T WON BY VOTES.

We should be surrounding their buildings and houses with torches and pitchforks. These lowlife scumbag parasites have destroyed this country.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

HELL YEAH! I’m definitely down for it.


44 posted on 06/11/2014 10:17:46 PM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic.)
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To: Luke21
Populism to a leftist like Fournier is very different.

Yeah, he thinks it's the proles asking for more socialism.

45 posted on 06/12/2014 5:41:36 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: All
Cantor's loss was a HUGE slapdown of "white privilege" since he had aligned himself w/ the forces of "white privilege" to foist amnesty on struggling Americans.....a major reason for his stunning loss.

Breitbart reports the mega-rich George Soros, the politically-connected Mark-Zuckerberg, are colluding w/ wealthy and politically-connected individuals to foist amnesty on struggling Americans. The Chamber of Commerce's business interests are organized against Americans--- aiding and abetting the "cabal of white privilege."

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Americans are struggling, some have no jobs, some in jobs w/ stagnating salaries. But the "cabal of white privilege" is conspiring against Americans-----to take their jobs, their livelihoods, and give them to people who do not even belong here....who broke laws to violate our borders.

============================================

It was a slap in the face of every law-abiding American that the Guatemalan Counsel complained about the conditions the children were being kept in US facilities.....as Obama colluded w/ the Third World and was jet-streaming aid in the form of legal assistance and billions of tax dollars.

This is an outrage---the swarm of illegals at the border have TWO governments looking after their interests.....

Struggling Americans have NO govt protecting their interests.......only the "cabal of white privilege" conspiring against them.

46 posted on 06/12/2014 6:11:11 AM PDT by Liz
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To: DariusBane

“Telling Joe Bag O’ Donuts that less government solutions are the answer just doesn’t resonate with most people and is inherently counter intuitive.”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

No, it doesn’t but sometimes you can’t resist doing so anyway. I have told some of the, “The government ought to do something about that” crowd that I cannot understand why people are incapable of realizing that the government is NOT interested in solutions, government thrives on CREATING problems and offering FAKE solutions that only worsen the real problem which in all too many cases was a fake, manufactured by government, problem to begin with.
The so-called health care crisis did not exist at all until government tampering began and every intervention created problems that had not existed beforehand and every “solution” offered only worsened the problem that the government created in the first place. In my lifetime we have gone from a country where you could walk into a doctor’s office, give your name, sit down and be seen shortly WITHOUT an appointment and pay the bill out of pocket and the doctor would come to your house if needed, to a situation where many of those who have health insurance cannot find a doctor, either they are “not accepting new patients” or they don’t accept the insurance you offer. Walk in patients are out of luck now, if you don’t have an appointment you must either go to an urgent care clinic or the emergency room or just stay home.

The next “solution” planned is “single payer” which will mean that everyone is on a medicaid plan and you will see the “providor” assigned to you after waiting so long it will make the current VA medical system look like paradise on Earth. Then when you finally see someone the odds are that you will wind up worse off than if you had simply taken a stiff drink of Rock and Rye and gone to bed. At least you might get some rest that way so that your body would have an opportunity to heal. Sitting in a waiting room for hours after waiting a long, long time for an appointment to sit in the waiting room will make a well person sick. Understanding what is really going on will make you puke.


47 posted on 06/12/2014 8:27:51 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: unixfox

In my opinion, Claire Wolfe is correct “America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”


48 posted on 06/13/2014 10:09:07 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Art in Idaho

Cantorcide


49 posted on 06/14/2014 9:57:29 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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