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Gun Control in Australia - Watch and Weep
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Posted on 06/11/2014 7:38:37 PM PDT by South40

Gun Control in Australia - Watch and Weep


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Coming to a country near you, courtesy of Barack Hussein Obama!
1 posted on 06/11/2014 7:38:37 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

As a collector and a freeman this breaks my heart.


2 posted on 06/11/2014 7:48:49 PM PDT by mylife
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To: South40

Obama is praising Australia, and says he’s ashamed of America for not being more like them. Hooray, they’re all disarmed sheep now.


3 posted on 06/11/2014 7:50:23 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

uring his Tumblr Q&A Tuesday, President Obama hailed Australia’s confiscation of firearms following the 1996 Port Arthur shootings:

“Couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting, similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that’s it, we’re not doing, we’re not seeing that again, and basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws, and they haven’t had a mass shooting since. Our levels of gun violence are off the charts.There’s no advanced, developed country that would put up with this.”

The Port Arthur Massacre had Martin Bryant, a 28-year-old from New Town, shoot and kill 35 people and wound 23.

Predictably, Obama praised a government that forced its citizens to give up their guns because of a national tragedy.

Charles Cooke of National Review summed up the real message behind Obama’s praise of Australia perfectly:

Notice anything interesting?


4 posted on 06/11/2014 7:53:18 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: mylife

I have had discussions with liberals who own guns; one man inherited his grandfather’s collection. Without exception they all insist the dems aren’t out to confiscate our guns. Hussein’s recent praising of Australia’s confiscation should be enough to convince anyone. But if they were smart enough to get it they wouldn’t be dems.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 7:54:12 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Therapsid

He avoided using the word “confiscation”, because, among other things, he is a coward.


6 posted on 06/11/2014 7:55:06 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Bump!


7 posted on 06/11/2014 7:55:07 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: South40

They make me sick, I have a C96 mauser.
Dang thing been around since 1896.

It did not start violence, Hell Churchill loved his.

We will never give up! We will never surrender!


8 posted on 06/11/2014 7:57:40 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Excellent episode of AMC’s “Turn” (Against thy neighbor)

Loyalist British occupied Setauket begins to struggle under the weight of occupation so someone tries to poison Major Hewlett and shoots Judge Woodhall.

The british respond by ordering all firearms to be turned in. Next British soldiers begin dragging Setauket citizens from their homes in the middle of the night.

The episode ends with a scene of the gallows being erected.

http://www.amctv.com/full-episodes/turn/3603504145001/against-thy-neighbor

If you haven’t seen this show you don’t know what you’re missing. Its a drama but the history is very solid. Its about Washington’s Culper spy ring during the revolution. The season finale was this last Sunday.


9 posted on 06/11/2014 8:00:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

What a great show!

Still trying to sort out Capt Simcoe and Robert Rogers loyalties.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 8:03:38 PM PDT by mylife
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To: cripplecreek

TURN is excellent. I got goose bumps when George Washington was finally shown.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 8:07:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: cripplecreek

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rogers%27_28_%22Rules_of_Ranging%22


12 posted on 06/11/2014 8:07:06 PM PDT by mylife
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To: cripplecreek

The left-wing (socialist) media and educational establishment controls what most people are allowed to know about history, so consequently they know nothing about what happens when government disarms the public. It’s always been the goal of socialists to reduce the population to powerless sheep so that they can do whatever they want free of the traditional concepts of morality.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 8:07:24 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: South40

It’s so sad reading about people who’ve lost their guns overboard in a lake. All that neat stuff lying there on the bottom rusting away .... sad.


14 posted on 06/11/2014 8:08:48 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: mylife

Robert Rogers was a mercenary who was loyal to the highest bidder and that happened to be the British.

Really a fascinating historical character who contributed a great deal to America over the years. Our military still uses Rogers Rules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_Standing_Orders


15 posted on 06/11/2014 8:09:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: SkyDancer

*sniff* shedding tears.

So sad.


16 posted on 06/11/2014 8:10:15 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

It looks like Simcoe is going to a British prison for the insane. But he might wiggle out of it. He’s one of the best villans ever.

Rogers is a hard ass and unpredictable. Maybe he’ll turn.

Great program.


17 posted on 06/11/2014 8:10:58 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: cripplecreek

Great show. Mrs. 40 and I have not missed an episode.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 8:11:54 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: cripplecreek

Indeed he was a mercenary and therefore an Independent.

The fellow strikes me as ruthless but egalitarian.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 8:12:12 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Telepathic Intruder

That’s why I’m such a shameless promoter of the show. AMC really nailed it with Turn. A really solid pro American history based show. James Riley wrote a great crtique of the show and he’s a solidly conservative filmmaker.

http://www.colonybay.net/w/index.php/2014/05/take-turn/

>>We live in a great, though fading republic, and the truth is: we need a lot more of these stories. We shouldn’t be counting them on one hand.<<


20 posted on 06/11/2014 8:14:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: laplata

Simcoe is a power mad SOB but is putting up a front to keep him from suspicion from the crown.

Fascinating character.
Fascinating life.


21 posted on 06/11/2014 8:16:35 PM PDT by mylife
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To: laplata

Loved the scene with the sodomite. Angus Macfadyen was a perfect casting choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQVLP9Pu9pk

“Even lower than a sodomite or a serpent’s belly”.


22 posted on 06/11/2014 8:17:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

I have read that Rogers was interested in joining the Americans in the Revolution, but Washington feared he may be a spy so would not allow him to enter the camp.


23 posted on 06/11/2014 8:23:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: South40

Hate to hijack yer thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHHwYJCVZn0


24 posted on 06/11/2014 8:25:42 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Rogers managed to get himself charged with treason by both sides over the years.


25 posted on 06/11/2014 8:26:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: South40

Whenever Obama, Shumer, Feinstein or any one of the countless pinhead liberal democrats or GOP-e uses the words, “gun control’, what they really mean is firearms confiscation.
This is another way they try to manipulate the language. So let’s call them on it.
When they use the term, gun control, make them admit that what they really mean is that they want to confiscate firearms, and in derogation of the 2nd amendment—not engage in some hypothetical, prophylactic, euphemistic exercise of “controlling guns.”
Gun control is lefty mealy-mouthing for firearms confiscation.


26 posted on 06/11/2014 8:27:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEKR6ykM9ek


27 posted on 06/11/2014 8:27:35 PM PDT by mylife
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To: South40

That’s a fairly old video that I have seen before. I don’t know how many times I have to say this but not all guns are banned in Australia. Automatics such as assault rifles and most forms of semi-automatics are banned. Guns must be stored in a proper gun safe and shooters should either be a member of a gun club or a farmer or someone who requires a gun to make a living. So the ban is far from total. Although quite draconian. There certainly has been an increase in gun crime although I don’t know where they get those numbers from. Most of the increase has been among bikie gangs and if they want to kill each other off good luck to them. Guns were never that prevalent in Australian Society. Anyone I know who had one would occasionally go out Roo or goat or feral pig shooting. These people still do that. The impression given that Australians have become a lot of sheeple may be partly true of inner city metrosexuals or leftie voters - you have them there too - but I would say that the Aussies I know are more fiercely independent than they have ever been!


28 posted on 06/11/2014 8:27:58 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: laplata; cripplecreek; mylife; South40

TURN is excellent. I got goose bumps when George Washington was finally shown.


Yay! More Turn discussions! Excellent series. Have enjoyed every episode. It ended too soon.

I, too, got goose bumps when George Washington made his appearance.

We drank a toast to Washington and Talmadge at Fraunces Tavern in NYC, earlier this year. To stand in the same building where Washington said his farewells to his Continental Army was pretty emotional.


29 posted on 06/11/2014 8:28:37 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: South40

Not going to happen here. I have no doubt they will try.

If anything passes, it’ll be war.


30 posted on 06/11/2014 8:29:54 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: Jane Long

Good primer on who everybody is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXgf46KG_EM


31 posted on 06/11/2014 8:30:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: South40

“Three years after Australia’s controversial ban was implemented, when 643,000 weapons had been surrendered, Inspector John McCoomb, the head of the state of Queensland’s Weapons Licensing Branch, told The Sunday Mail, “About 800,000 (semi-automatic and automatic) SKK and SKS weapons came in from China back in the 1980s as part of a trade deal between the Australian and Chinese governments. And it was estimated that there were 1.2 million semi-automatic Ruger 10/22s in the country. That’s about 2 million firearms of just two types in the country.

Do the math. Two million illegal firearms of just two types, and only 643,000 guns of all types were surrendered …

The Australian Shooters Journal did its own math in a 1997 article on the “gun buyback.” Researchers for the publication pointed out that the Australian government’s own low-ball, pre-ban estimate of the number of prohibited weapons in the country yielded a compliance rate of 19 percent.

But maybe success is in the eye of the beholder. After the expected mountains of surrendered weapons failed to manifest themselves, then-Australian Attorney General Darryl Williams’s office revised its estimate of total firearms in the country to a number lower than its pre-ban estimate of prohibited firearms, and declared victory.

Inspector McCoomb, like the Australian Shooters Journal, concluded the ban `has failed.’”

http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/22/gun-restrictions-have-always-bred-defian


32 posted on 06/11/2014 8:32:07 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: mylife

Yeah - also if someone wanted to like, you know, bury a rifle, best do it vertically not horizontal where the footprint is larger.


33 posted on 06/11/2014 8:32:34 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: South40

I don’t think so. Mullah Baraq’s own actions...releasing criminals out of prisons, allowing our borders to overrun and our country invaded, more and more Americans will begin to understand the necessity of arming themselves. On the other hand, if it’s his intention to force the citizens into armed insurrection, then so be it.


34 posted on 06/11/2014 8:33:15 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: Jane Long

Huzzah! Cheers!


35 posted on 06/11/2014 8:34:16 PM PDT by mylife
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To: cripplecreek

Great synopsis.

Keep that powder dry and go dark.


36 posted on 06/11/2014 8:40:24 PM PDT by mylife
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To: SkyDancer

Old sonobouy tubes are yer friend ;)

http://commanderzero.com/blog/2012/01/06/sonobuoy-transport-tubes/

seriously. Milspec water tight.


37 posted on 06/11/2014 8:44:03 PM PDT by mylife
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To: cripplecreek

Excellent. I’ve also enjoyed the interactive maps, etc on the show’s site.


38 posted on 06/11/2014 8:46:07 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: mylife

And....I really like the soundtrack ;) Not sure who the artists are, but I like ‘em.


39 posted on 06/11/2014 8:47:48 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long

Just an excellent series.

I am enjoying Fargo as well, even though that is fantasy.

Turn and the secret Culper 6 is fascinating to this day in as much as we have never found out who the 6th member was.


40 posted on 06/11/2014 8:51:24 PM PDT by mylife
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To: cripplecreek

Great scene. Thanks.

Buggery was a death sentence then.

Rogers is played by the same actor who played Robert Bruce in Braveheart. He’s perfect for this part.


41 posted on 06/11/2014 9:04:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: mylife

Black PVC pipe - everything vacuum sealed. And if you really want to confuse the ‘authorities’ you sprinkle 6p finishing nails in a wide circle - away from where you buried your arms.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 9:04:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: mylife

PS - email my dad the page.


43 posted on 06/11/2014 9:05:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: cripplecreek

I think Simcoe and Roberts are fascinating.

I believe Simcoe went on to settle Quebec and Ontario, and became an abolitionist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2vxt7VEaPU


44 posted on 06/11/2014 9:07:04 PM PDT by mylife
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To: SkyDancer

Now yer thinkin!


45 posted on 06/11/2014 9:08:32 PM PDT by mylife
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To: cripplecreek

Had to memorize those back in the day...They still hold true.


46 posted on 06/11/2014 9:08:55 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: SkyDancer

Whats his addy?


47 posted on 06/11/2014 9:09:19 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

I just looked him up. Yes, a fascinating character and life.


48 posted on 06/11/2014 9:09:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: mylife; cripplecreek

Turn is a great show. Very well done. Love Fargo too.


49 posted on 06/11/2014 9:10:13 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Jane Long

I’d love to drink a toast to George Washington and the other great Patriots at Fraunces Tavern.

George Washington remains the greatest American.


50 posted on 06/11/2014 9:12:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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