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Trojan Horse Debate: We Were Wrong, All Cultures Are Not Equal [Too Little, Too Late!]
Guardian (UK) ^ | June 11, 2014 | Allison Pearson

Posted on 06/11/2014 7:48:21 PM PDT by Steelfish

Trojan Horse Debate: We Were Wrong, All Cultures Are Not Equal For years, we all turned a blind eye to the segregation of Muslim pupils. Now it is time to stand up to propagators of barbarism and ignorance

Allison Pearson 11 Jun 2014

If I have learnt one thing working with children as a teacher, a volunteer and, more recently, a parent, it’s that what children want above all else is to fit in.

The desire not to be different must be hard-wired, so urgent is the need of your average nine-year-old to have the same pencil case as every other nine-year-old. Individuality, much prized in adult life, is abhorred by our conservative juniors, who crave acceptance as the thirsty crave water. “Fitting in” is braided into the DNA of every child, regardless of creed or colour. When the deep, resonant bell of human evolution tolls, it says: “Belong, belong, belong.”

Integrating children into a new society, then, should not present too much of a problem. A football, some Panini World Cup stickers to trade, One Direction, Harry Potter, 97 episodes of Friends, especially the one where Rachel has a baby: common interests for youngsters are not hard to find. So how have we ended up with a situation where so many Muslims are adrift from the mainstream? Why this scandal in Birmingham where five overwhelmingly Muslim schools, some until recently judged to be outstanding, are to be put into special measures because they have sought to inculcate ideas that are repellent to this country?

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 06/11/2014 7:48:21 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Every country used have it’s own culture. The USA is a melting pot. More so than other countries. The problem in the last few decades is overwhelming immigration where the immigrants seek to impose their culture on their new country. Why bother immigrating if they want to change the new country into the one they left? I realize the answer is possibly ‘world domination’. Does anyone believe it is likely?


2 posted on 06/11/2014 8:06:46 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Steelfish

Things are going to gt VERY interesting in Europe in the next 30 years.


3 posted on 06/11/2014 8:07:34 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Steelfish

But, diversity is our strength here at Diversity University.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 8:08:13 PM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: originalbuckeye

We went from a melting pot to a tossed salad.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 8:08:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
tossed salad

dog's breakfast, more like

6 posted on 06/11/2014 8:21:01 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: dfwgator
If by tossed, you mean what my 5 year old grandson does when he gets carsick, you are correct.

/johnny

7 posted on 06/11/2014 8:22:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Steelfish

The left currently is going through an episode of extraordinary self-loathing and seeks to purge society of its perceived sins (mostly racial of course) by purging society of its indigenous race and culture through dilution from elsewhere, anywhere.

This leads the left to open the doors to people from Muslim countries who not only have no intent to preserve the indigenous culture, they believe their religion requires them to conquer any culture who is so foolish to as allow too many of them to move there.

So, now we have a Europe that for centuries has gone to war to preserve national identity committing slow motion cultural suicide. As the left would say in another context, this is not “sustainable”. The common man will wake up and with the recent election of UKIP, is starting to wake up to the war being waged on society by their own rulers. This will cause great political earthquakes and it has already started to happen.

The next step that logically follows is that Muslims must be suppressed somehow. Or maybe even ejected. This will not end well for anyone, I am sorry to say. Those of us who could see this coming have many wounds from the way in which leftists marginalized and dismissed our warnings. No, the left is still “hell-bent” (so to speak) on creating the perfect a-cultural Utopia, something that defies history and human nature itself.


8 posted on 06/11/2014 8:27:41 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Steelfish

Having followed that paper for many years, I note that its unusual (to say the least) to see such a piece in the Guardian of all places.

And the comments are nearly all very non-Guardian-like.
Whats happened ?


9 posted on 06/11/2014 8:28:10 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Ah, wait, there is a problem with the top link, its not to the Guardian at all but to the Telegraph. All’s well, my world continues to spin on its axis.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 8:30:27 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Steelfish

I would simply point this out to the author: those promoting the intolerably oppressive Muslim culture are willing to kill for it. And have. What price are you willing to pay to defend yours? And are you still clinging to the illusion that a response in kind makes you “no better than they are”?


11 posted on 06/11/2014 8:33:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: theBuckwheat

“The next step that logically follows is that Muslims must be suppressed somehow. Or maybe even ejected.”

It’s either that or total submission to Islam. There is no other option, no happy, peaceful melting-pot that Leftists keep pushing in defiance of logic and reality.

It’s a good thing the Americans and Europeans have made certain that no Islamic nation can ever acquire nuclear weapons.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 8:35:06 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: theBuckwheat

Well, today’s Washington-LA-NYC-uber-socialist society doesn’t “like” the Muslims so much as it HATES the Christians that the Muslims also hate.

So it is “OK” to completely ignore the 7th century barbarism of the Muslim because .... well, they are not Christians.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 8:35:34 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Steelfish

Because they belong, belong, belong to Allah... i.e. a mock God that has rabies.


14 posted on 06/11/2014 8:36:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The British are almost not Christians either and that’s a problem.

It would be better to have religious clashes, as woeful as they are, than this deadly, oppressive mind numbing mush.


15 posted on 06/11/2014 8:38:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: theBuckwheat
"logically...Muslims must be suppressed"

Yes, that is correct, logically all western societies should ban Islam. We know that won't happen. Any country that is dominated by liberal thought is doomed to failure by failing to eject violent and/or inferior cultures. Liberals just can't help themselves. To admit that some cultures are indeed regressive and inferior is to reject liberalism. They are then rejecting themselves or what they have been taught to believe their entire lives.

16 posted on 06/11/2014 8:45:06 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: theBuckwheat
that Muslims must be suppressed somehow. Or maybe even ejected. This will not end well for anyone

Oh, I don't know. I really don't see a downside here.

17 posted on 06/11/2014 9:03:56 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (June IS "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: theBuckwheat
The left currently is going through an episode of extraordinary self-loathing and seeks to purge society of its perceived sins (mostly racial of course) by purging society of its indigenous race and culture through dilution from elsewhere, anywhere.

How long do you think this episode is going on? It started with Karl Marx, and he has been dead for 130 years.

This isn't an episode or tantrum, this is just how the left is and has always been.

18 posted on 06/11/2014 9:20:42 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Steelfish

I invite everyone to read the comments to the article in that Left wing rag. It is heartening. It may renew your hope in England.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 11:08:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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