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Bad sign: Cantorís vanquisher surprised MSNBC host isnít just celebrating his victory
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/11/bad-sign-cantors-vanquisher-surprised-msnbc-host-doesnt-want-to-just-celebrate-his-victory/ ^

Posted on 06/11/2014 10:48:29 PM PDT by chessplayer

And while tea party groups and talk radio hosts are celebrating the downfall of a Republican member of Congress who came to symbolize the “establishment,” there are indications that this enthusiasm is misplaced.

In the wake of his victory, Brat joined MSNBC host Chuck Todd on Wednesday where he received a gentle grilling and was asked for his position on a variety of policy matters. Brat seemed entirely unprepared to have to speak on issues of substance. In fact, he suggested – perhaps (hopefully) jokingly – that he thought Todd invited him on the program merely to celebrate his victory.

“Where are you on the minimum wage?” Todd began, starting off with a question right in this economics expert’s wheelhouse.

Brat railed against unspecific distorting effects on the market before he was prompted to say whether or not he thought a minimum wage should even exist? “I don’t have a well-crafted response on that one,” Brat replied.

…Okay. So, how about foreign policy?

“Would you be in favor of arming the Syrian rebels?” Todd asked.

“Hey, Chuck, I thought we were just going to chat today about the celebratory aspect,” Brat replied. “I’d love to go through all this, but my mind is just, uh, I didn’t get much sleep.”

“I love the policy questions, I’m happy to do more, but I just wanted to talk about the victory here,” he continued.

Sure, sleep deprivation will dull anyone’s wit. But any competent Republican campaigner should be able to endure the rendition tactics depicted in Zero Dark Thirty and emerge aware of the fact that MSNBC is not the place insurgent tea partiers go for softballs.

Maybe Brat was, as he said, merely exhausted from a long night following his primary victory. However, as The Washington Examiner’s Ashe Schow noted, “he’s going to have to get it together real quick now that he’s been thrust into the national spotlight.”


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Not off to a good start.
1 posted on 06/11/2014 10:48:29 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

“Not off to a good start”

Defeating Cantor is not only a good start, but a great start. What did you expect, a fast talking politician?

Come on. I’ll give Brat a break. He isn’t a Beltway Boy or a GOB.


2 posted on 06/11/2014 10:51:51 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: chessplayer

How the hell do you go on MSNBC expecting them to celebrate your victory with you?


3 posted on 06/11/2014 10:52:41 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

chessplayer, don’t take the liberal bait and be a shill for the MSM.

We didn’t want a typical politician. We’ll see how the next few months unfolds for Brat.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 10:54:17 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Those weren’t complex questions and he didn’t have a clue how to answer them.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 10:54:42 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: This Just In

He’ll get it together


6 posted on 06/11/2014 10:55:12 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: chessplayer
How the hell do you go on MSNBC expecting them to celebrate your victory with you?

no kidding

7 posted on 06/11/2014 10:58:04 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: chessplayer
When will conservatives learn? He should have never NEVER gone on MSNBC.

MSNBC question to a Dem: Why are you so awesome?

MSNBC question to a Rep: Why do you hate Black people?

8 posted on 06/11/2014 10:58:43 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: chessplayer

Brat’s being disingenuous. And that’s a good thing. Reagan avoided questions all the time. Not taking the bait is part of message discipline. He is there to use the media to communicate his message, not have them set his agenda.


9 posted on 06/11/2014 10:59:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: chessplayer

should not these sort of questions be asked while the candidate is running? And a different sort after election?

Also, MSNBC will give lib and “play along GOP” candidates a list of questions beforehand.

No, today is a good day for the republic....a CITIZEN got elected over a Big Government establishment Big spender.

The framers of the constitution are smiling somewhere.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 10:59:52 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: chessplayer

welcome to the big leagues Dave. Don’t let them pick your battles.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 11:00:20 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: chessplayer

Your guy lost. Brat won. Deal with it.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 11:01:11 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: chessplayer

Sorry, buddy, but you can rain on your own parade.

Brat’s not a seasoned politician or public figure at that level. What may seem like easy questions to you isn’t exactly the issue. It’s not so much about the questions at this moment. It’s about what Brat has been working toward for the last few months leading up to this victory, the significance of that win, sleep deprivation coupled with public and media appearances.

In my view, it’s not difficult to see how that could happen.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 11:01:40 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: chessplayer

“Not off to a good start.”
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Oh, puhleeezz...ask Cantor if the person who ejected him from the House is off to a good start. Brat is VERY smart to recognize and sidestep the traps the mainstream media attempts to lay for him. There will be a whole series of these and Brat doesn’t have to step on a single landmine-—he’ll be voting correctly in January 2015 and onward, and THAT is what counts.


14 posted on 06/11/2014 11:02:01 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: BereanBrain

“No, today is a good day for the republic....a CITIZEN got elected over a Big Government establishment Big spender.

The framers of the constitution are smiling somewhere.”

Well said.


15 posted on 06/11/2014 11:02:42 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: chessplayer

Ultimately, in the age of Youtube, what is said cannot be unsaid, and if more GOP candidates acted like Brat, they’d be full-time pols instead of has-beens or never-wuzzers.


16 posted on 06/11/2014 11:03:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: chessplayer

On the good side, how many MSNBC viewers are there left, and how many would actually vote for him under any circumstances? I’d say not many on both counts. He didn’t lose votes.


17 posted on 06/11/2014 11:04:18 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: chessplayer

MSNBC.com Deceptively Edits Dave Brat to Suggest He Was ‘Dodging’ Questions

By Ken Shepherd | June 11, 2014 | 18:52
Editors at MSNBC.com trimmed down Republican congressional nominee Dave Brat’s June 11 phone interview with MSNBC’s Chuck Todd in order to paint him as dodging questions from the Daily Rundown host.

But a review of the full interview [listen to the mp3 audio here] shows that Brat had already and seemingly quite gladly answered a few policy questions on such hot issues as the minimum wage, immigration reform, and his stance on Wall Street’s influence on the business wing of the GOP.

“Brat dodges Chuck Todd’s questions,” blared a teaser headline. “Brat: I just wanted to talk about the victory,” reads the headline at the video link. “Virginia primary winner and Tea-Party member Dave Brat joins Chuck Todd to discuss his primary win – and it appears that’s all he wanted to talk about,” was how MSNBC.com summarized the clip.

Readers of the MSNBC.com website who hadn’t the benefit of watching the interview earlier in the morning would have come away with a wildly different perspective than someone who watched the full interview.

Below is the full segment’s transcript. The portion underlined is the portion that MSNBC.com isolated:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2014/06/11/msnbccom-deceptively-edits-dave-brat-suggest-he-was-dodging-questions


18 posted on 06/11/2014 11:04:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: chessplayer

He was very smart not to say anything substantive.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 11:05:18 PM PDT by kabar
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To: chessplayer

Laura Ingraham will get rid of him if he supports Al Qaeda’s air force.

That’s what has been left out by the liberals attacking Ingraham. She has been talking about foreign policy and Boehner and Cantor wanting to start a war.

Why are these RINOs like Condi Rice and Dick Lugar(Democrat darling) so noble in wanting to bomb Syria?


20 posted on 06/11/2014 11:07:18 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: chessplayer

Yes, they were complex questions that needed to be answered carefully. The liberal MSM will do whatever is necessary to get a Rep to say something controversial and nail him.


21 posted on 06/11/2014 11:07:45 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

In 2016 VA7 primary.


22 posted on 06/11/2014 11:08:31 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: kabar

He was very smart not to say anything substantive.
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Indeed....NEVER give them a single word they can distort and/or take out of context.


23 posted on 06/11/2014 11:10:39 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: chessplayer

Rand Paul did the same stupid thing after he won his primary. And Rand Paul actually committed a gaff as I remember. So Brat did not do that bad, but to me it is a bad sign that he is as dumb as Rand Paul and went on MSNBC for any reason.


24 posted on 06/11/2014 11:10:48 PM PDT by JLS
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To: chessplayer

His only mistake was going on MSNBC in the first place.

We call this exercise an “NPG” No Possible Gain.

THIS is what he should recognize. He doesn’t have to be sharp as a tack to realize this. He SHOULD know that “gotcha” will be the name of the game. He MUST acquire some degree of media savvy. MUST. He could also simply keep his mouth shut, that would work fine and it would be a smarter decision.

So I will issue him a small demerit that I don’t hold against him at all for even agreeing to appear on MSNBC in the first place.

He is a smart guy. He will learn this lesson.


25 posted on 06/11/2014 11:11:38 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: chessplayer

So what. I wouldn’t care if all Republicans did this.


26 posted on 06/11/2014 11:12:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: chessplayer

Better response than spend the next 6 months trying to convince people that you really didn’t say you were a witch.

Remember for the most part “W” came across as a ‘gee, shucks, sort of ‘hick’ with his twang etc’.

That WAS the same W that acted very professional and adult when it came to handling 9-11.

When you got BO ‘talking’ about you, you have done something right.


27 posted on 06/11/2014 11:12:33 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Better to keep your enemies inside peeing out, rather than keep them outside, peeing in.".)
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To: chessplayer

Somebody give this boy some street smarts quick, before he goes onto the Bill Maher show, for a ‘five libs vs one conservative’ initiation. Don’t fritter away your good will by acting too gullible. Take it slow for the first year or two. You owe your constituents your time, not these rabblerousers.


28 posted on 06/11/2014 11:20:47 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: chessplayer

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/chaos-far-left-amnesty-activists-storm-cantor-hq-after-concession-speech-video/

“Adding insult to injury, far left amnesty activists stormed Eric Cantor’s election night headquarters after his loss to Dave Brat.

They raided the wrong headquarters.
Cantor lost.

That had to hurt.”


29 posted on 06/11/2014 11:20:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: chessplayer

Under the circumstances, ducking questions like whether or not to arm the Syrian rebels was the best possible strategy.


30 posted on 06/11/2014 11:25:36 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: chessplayer

If you’d been up all night, you might have answered questions punchdrunk too.


31 posted on 06/11/2014 11:27:05 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: chessplayer

I’d agree it might not be the best followup on his big victory over Cantor. And, given the number of times we’ve been burned by TP candidates (albeit mostly at the Senate level) who weren’t ready for the media onslaught, there is naturally a concern when a guy stumbles out of the gate.

All that said, I don’t think one bad interview on MSNBC is likely to hurt him. He got through it without any major gaffes - i.e. no Todd Akin moment - and has plenty of time to prepare and polish his delivery, etc. In a week or two, this interview will be forgotten. Especially if he comes out strong in his next public interview.


32 posted on 06/11/2014 11:28:32 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: chessplayer

That the putz is gone is victory enough.

Obama thought there were 57 states and flubbed many more important issues.

I have no doubt the man is with us in spirit and will forge excellent answers over the next few months.


33 posted on 06/11/2014 11:31:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: This Just In

When an MSNBC host asks if you will arm rebels (al-qaaaeda)in Syria, and you say you’re too tired to answer such a “hard” question, you’re not off to a good start.


34 posted on 06/11/2014 11:32:16 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Because it’s easy?

/S


35 posted on 06/11/2014 11:32:45 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Or he could have turned the question back on Todd:
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“I understand you haven’t reformed your predilections for young boys.

Why haven’t you answered that charge?”


36 posted on 06/11/2014 11:34:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ansel12

Excellent


37 posted on 06/11/2014 11:41:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: chessplayer
Dave Brat's next scheduled interview is with Katie Couric.


39 posted on 06/11/2014 11:48:52 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: chessplayer
“Brat seemed entirely unprepared to have to speak on issues of substance. In fact, he suggested – perhaps (hopefully) jokingly – that he thought Todd invited him on the program merely to celebrate his victory.”

My guess is that Brat was lied to and set up.

Todd is a slimeball. I would guess his people begged Brat to come on his show and promised it would just be congratulations on his upset win. Then Todd tries to trip him up and tells everyone in the MSM to report that Brat is stupid and can't answer questions.

Brat has to learn that MSM reporters are slimeballs. They will try to make him look bad and then define him as stupid.

40 posted on 06/11/2014 11:49:46 PM PDT by detective
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To: Zhang Fei

Agree... Don’ t react... Relax and move to your own agenda....Reagan did this and they loved to brand him as stupid because he didn’t take the bait.


41 posted on 06/11/2014 11:49:50 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Pelham

Your guy lost. Brat won. Deal with it.


Neither of them was “my guy.” Deal with that.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 11:51:08 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Strikes me as odd that he can’t answer some basic economics questions on minimum wage. He’s a professor of economics, so he should be able to answer these in his sleep.


43 posted on 06/11/2014 11:53:26 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: chessplayer

“Those weren’t complex questions and he didn’t have a clue how to answer them.”

Definitely concerning, especially the one on minimum wage. You would think an economics prof would be able to answer that one in his sleep.

He better wake up very quickly, or they’ll “Palinize” him.

He didn’t even seem to know that MSNBC is enemy territory!


44 posted on 06/11/2014 11:55:56 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

“When will conservatives learn? He should have never NEVER gone on MSNBC.”

I don’t think he even KNEW that MSNBC is enemy territory!

Let’s hope he doesn’t end up being another embarrassment.


45 posted on 06/11/2014 11:58:19 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: This Just In

Brat’s not a seasoned politician or public figure at that level. What may seem like easy questions to you isn’t exactly the issue. It’s not so much about the questions at this moment. It’s about what Brat has been working toward for the last few months leading up to this victory, the significance of that win, sleep deprivation coupled with public and media appearances.


And you can apply all those things to obama. Did it mean he suddenly became a competent leader just because he won? I don’t think so.


46 posted on 06/12/2014 12:00:26 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
He needs to be aware, at all times, of the fact that the MSM is out to destroy all conservatives and will do anything to accomplish this.

That said, it was a minor incident, probably caused by post campaign fatigue. Hopefully he learned from it, and won't be caught off guard again.

Everyone running against an establishment candidate should pay attention to how he was able to win, in spite of having very little money and support from the GOP or the Tea Party.

As an example, I like how he phrases his positions on issues using simple terms and declaring them to be about free markets and the Constitution, not right vs left.

47 posted on 06/12/2014 12:10:00 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: aquila48

At least no one watches MSNBC, so no damage done. However, he needs to learn pretty quick the art of how to give non-answers.


48 posted on 06/12/2014 12:10:38 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: ansel12; chessplayer

I take back my previews posts here after reading the transcript. He actually answered the questions rather well.

Thanks ansel for posting the full interview. The excerpt that chessplayer posted is very misleading and does a disservice to Brat and us freepers.


49 posted on 06/12/2014 12:11:30 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Kirkwood

Take a look at my post #49. I take back my previous criticism after reading the FULL transcript.

I recommend you read it too to get a true picture of what he said.


50 posted on 06/12/2014 12:14:20 AM PDT by aquila48
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