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Al Qaeda-inspired militant group vows march on Baghdad after seizing northern cities
Fox News ^ | June 12, 2014 | Fox/AP

Posted on 06/12/2014 2:16:42 AM PDT by lilyramone

Al Qaeda-inspired militants in Iraq vowed Thursday to march against Baghdad after seizing two key cities in the north of the country this week. A spokesman for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) said in audio posted on militant websites commonly used by the group that the fighters have old scores to settle with Iraq's Shiite-led government. The spokesman, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, also threatened that Sunni ISIL fighters would capture the southern Iraqi Shiite cities of Karbala and Najaf, which hold two of the holiest shrines for Shiite Muslims

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaedainiraq; baghdad; iraq; postwariraq
America's community organizer knows nothing about how to handle this.
1 posted on 06/12/2014 2:16:42 AM PDT by lilyramone
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To: lilyramone
America's community organizer knows nothing about how to handle this.

Handle it? Hell, he's funding it.

2 posted on 06/12/2014 2:25:47 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

And arming it


3 posted on 06/12/2014 2:27:05 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: lilyramone

Oh, it’s just starting.

“Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.”

Our Caesar let slip 5 dogs of war and sent the signal to ignite the havoc.

Actually, Shakespeare said it better in “Julius Caesar”:

ANTONY:
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter’d with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar’s spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch’s voice
Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

And that, my dear Freepers, was written over 400 years ago. Not much changes.


4 posted on 06/12/2014 2:27:21 AM PDT by plangent
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To: SampleMan

I’m sure he assisted with more than just our tax dollars


5 posted on 06/12/2014 2:31:28 AM PDT by lilyramone (The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary)
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To: lilyramone

Some brilliant socialists in our administration including our great leader, a (m)uslim sympathizer, if not a full fledged closet (m)uslim himself thought we were all done there and terrorism has been eliminated and is a thing of the past. Well think again as there will be no peace until that “Great Religion of Peace” ceases to exist and that will be a while, as so far no one has come up with a cure for ignorance.


6 posted on 06/12/2014 2:38:29 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: SampleMan

Yup. These guys are the same people fighting Assad in Syria.


7 posted on 06/12/2014 3:18:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: lilyramone

In 2003, The democrats warned us Iraq would be another Vietnam. They have worked tirelessly since to make it so.

They are succeeding.


8 posted on 06/12/2014 3:40:06 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: lilyramone
Isn't this the same Al Qaeda that attacked us numerous times up to, including, and after 911. So why aren't we trying to destroy them?

Rhetorical question, of course.

9 posted on 06/12/2014 3:47:39 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Islander7

We haven’t won a war since WWII because of our habit of fighting to a standstill and then negotiating.

Watching the BBC news this morning and it appears that much of the Iraqi government is fleeing. They were due to hold a vote on the situation and ask for American drone strikes but not enough of them showed up to hold the vote.


10 posted on 06/12/2014 3:47:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: lilyramone

That’s OK. That moron who preceded him didn’t know, either. Otherwise, Iraq wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place.


11 posted on 06/12/2014 3:48:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Alberta's Child

“Giving” freedom just doesn’t work. Freedom must be won or it becomes a concept without value.


12 posted on 06/12/2014 3:57:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: lilyramone

They will have a harder time the further south they go. I suspect a lot of the officers and troops that just gave up in the Iraqi security forces in Mosul were Sunni. That’s not going to happen in the Shiite dominated south. However, we should provide some air strikes with drones or planes.

That said, even if the Iraqi government puts this down, it does not go away. The Sunnis and Shias have to figure out a way to live together. Perhaps, give the Sunni the same deal the Kurds have up north. A semi autonomous region. The sad thing about this is, that the one group of people who value their freedom the most and have worked to protect it (the Kurds) could be hurt the most by a breakup of Iraq. Methinks if that happened that Turkey would come down and swallow the Kurds up whole and there would be a lot of bloodshed there.

Look for this to be replayed approximately two years after we get out of Afghanistan.... rinse, wash, repeat....


13 posted on 06/12/2014 4:24:24 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: cripplecreek
"Yup. These guys are the same people fighting Assad in Syria."

Obozo wants to support them in Syria against Assaad and opposes stopping them in Iraq (strong letter of comdemnation to follow). Do we see a pattern here???
14 posted on 06/12/2014 4:26:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: lilyramone

CBS news this AM reported that we’re going to give more weapons more weapons to fight ISIS. How dumb is that? The soldiers are leaving their weapons behind, leaving them for ISIS.


15 posted on 06/12/2014 4:30:11 AM PDT by grania
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The Iraqis apparently don’t have it in them to fight back. From what I’m seeing on the news, some 30,000 Iraqi troops dropped their weapons and ran from 800 ISIS fighters.


16 posted on 06/12/2014 4:30:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: grania
CBS news this AM reported that we’re going to give more weapons more weapons to fight ISIS. How dumb is that?

Pretty smart if your real goal is to arm ISIS.
17 posted on 06/12/2014 4:31:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek
In many parts of the world, "freedom" is an abstraction that doesn't mean anything because it usually means "freedom to have your way and suppress others who disagree with you."

Sounds a lot like the U.S. these days, doesn't it?

18 posted on 06/12/2014 4:31:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: lilyramone

Are McCain’s Syrian buddies a part of this?


19 posted on 06/12/2014 4:36:47 AM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The Taliban will Najeebullah President Karzai about six months after USA goes wheels up Kabul. One reason why Karzai ordered a street improvement program in Kabul is so his final ride will be smoother when the Taliban drag him through the streets...


20 posted on 06/12/2014 4:36:51 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: grania

They are asking civilians to take up the fight and promise to supply weapons


21 posted on 06/12/2014 4:37:42 AM PDT by lilyramone (The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary)
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To: lilyramone

Id like to see a split screen. One side with Obama on stump saying Al Queda is on the run, and I ended the war in Iraq. ISIS militants overtaking Iraq on the other screen.

But don’t worry. This will be Bush’s fault. Even though Obama was taking credit for stabilizing and democratizing Iraq after Bush’s surge.


22 posted on 06/12/2014 4:46:02 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: lilyramone

Gee, it’s a good think Obama has decimated “core Al Qaeda”, otherwise, this might be a real problem.


23 posted on 06/12/2014 4:52:50 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“The Sunnis and Shias have to figure out a way to live together.

No, they don’t. In fact, their head-butting is merely continuation of their history. It is the nature of cults to seek dominion over others. In this case, two cults, each seeking to eliminate the other, is not wholly a bad thing.


24 posted on 06/12/2014 4:54:29 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: lilyramone
Only 800 of these Sunni al Qaida reportedly put 30,000 Iraqi troops to flight, taking Nineveh and Tikrit. It's doubtful they are likely to take Kirkuk or Arbel, let alone the Shiite-packed neighborhoods in their holy cities, or in "the city of peace" (Baghdad).

It's a bold ISIL propaganda move, wherein their most likely strategic move is to link-up with the thugs terrorizing Falujah or their cult-leader's hometown in Samarra. If there is an actual strategic goal, it's to grab as many weapons as they can, of which there is a bounty at Mosil, and retreat. It's possible they want to link up or re-supply their comrades in other parts of Syria, but this is not the jungles of Indochina. Establishing a Ho Chi Minh Trail in the Tigris valley? Right now the zone they are given credit for holding is the rolling deserts.

They may do some real damage to unexcavated archeological sites, but their are spread real thin at present, and the Kurds are unlikely to submit and they pose an existential threat to the central government.

Seen in context of a larger proxy war between Shiites and Sunni (or Iran and Saudi, respectively) - the attacks in Pakistan, for example - this may be a short, very effective raid to re-supply themselves at Baghdad's expense.

25 posted on 06/12/2014 5:44:39 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

If this fool goes after Karbala or Najaf the local Shia will fight them and the Iranians will enter the fray. The Iranians are already in southern and eastern Iraq moving their oil out through the Basrah terminals to skirt the sanctions.

The worst thing ISIL could do is to go into Shia areas, particularly Karbala (Ashura) and Najaf (Imam Ali grand mosque). The Shia have many more old scores to settle than the Sunnis.


26 posted on 06/12/2014 5:45:12 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Maybe Joe Binden was not so dumb after all. This, I believe, is an idea he stated. Split the country into 3 regions. However, we did not want the Shiite aligning with Iran. Turkey did not the Kurds in their country to align with Kurds in Iraq. It looks like this will end up happening anyway. The bad part would be the Shiite/Iran would control the export of OIL into the gulf.


27 posted on 06/12/2014 6:18:53 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Prospero

How long before Iran invades from the South?
The Shiite in Iraq will need their help. They will want to grab their piece of Iraq while there is a power vacuum. Now is the perfect time. The reason Mosul and the other Sunni dominated cities fell so quickly was because they hold more of an alliance to their Sunni sect than the do the flag of Iraq. The Sunnis up north are not going to kill their brother Sunni fighters. Iraq will end up being split into three parts very quickly.


28 posted on 06/12/2014 6:26:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: rdcbn

And, training it...

How to Train a Rebel Army (Secretly) In Seven Steps
May 28, 2014, by Michelle Mizner , Sarah Childress and Evan Wexler

Three years into Syria’s civil war, President Barack Obama announced today that he would boost support for Syrian rebels, who are battling both the Assad regime and foreign extremists. The pledge marks a shift in U.S. policy on Syria, which until recently was focused mainly on humanitarian aid and nonlethal assistance to opposition groups.

“I will work with Congress to ramp up support for those in the Syrian opposition who offer the best alternative to terrorists and a brutal dictator,” Obama said in a speech at West Point, adding that he hoped to establish a $5 billion fund to train allies in counterterrorism around the world.

But as FRONTLINE reported in “Arming the Rebels”, U.S. intelligence forces are already training some Syrian rebels. Reporter Muhammad Ali got a rare glimpse into that covert program when he embedded with a unit of moderate rebels in the north. Here, he breaks down how it works:

(3 minute video at link below)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/foreign-affairs-defense/syria-arming-the-rebels/how-to-train-a-rebel-army-secretly-in-seven-steps/


29 posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:34 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: woodbutcher1963
"Maybe Joe Binden was not so dumb after all. This, I believe, is an idea he stated. Split the country into 3 regions."

Yeah, he's still dumb. For one thing, those three regions won't last long. They may all get gobbled up by others. The Kurds would certainly be invaded by the Turks and taken over, Iran may try to absorb the southern Shia dominated part and who knows what happens to the Sunni dominated part. It may stand alone, but as another base for Al Queada I suspect. All in all, there would be a lot of death and bloodshed and the Islamo Fascists terrorist bent on destroying us would have a safe haven in the Sunni region. No, I don't think it's a good idea. It sets in motion a whole lot of bad things and who knows where it ends up. As Cormac McCarthy wrote in No Country for Old Men. Even between man and beast, the outcome is not always certain....
30 posted on 06/12/2014 7:29:17 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: lilyramone
Been there, done that - and it looks like deja vu all over again...

... it's the same Liberal bastards who are orchestrating another defeat for us and our allies once again.

When will we ever learn...?

31 posted on 06/12/2014 10:03:56 AM PDT by Gritty (The war is over. We won. - Michael Yon, Top Iraq War Correspondent, 07/21/2008)
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To: Gritty

Amazing photos


32 posted on 06/12/2014 10:37:44 AM PDT by lilyramone (The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary)
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