Skip to comments.Armed, dangerous and dead
Posted on 06/12/2014 5:39:46 AM PDT by rellimpank
So much for the argument that having more people armed in public places will result in fewer gun deaths.
One of the three killed recently by a Las Vegas couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, was an armed civilian, Joseph Wilcox. Two police officers who were killed, Igor Soldo and Alyn Beck, were ambushed while having lunch. Seated in a booth, they had no chance to defend themselves, according to witnesses.
Wilcox, 31, was inside a Walmart when the Millers entered firing and ordering everyone to evacuate. Wilcox, who carried a gun, decided to confront the shooter, apparently unaware that Amanda was with Jerad. After he walked past her on his approach toward Jerad, Amanda fatally shot him.
During an ensuing gunfight with police, Amanda turned her gun on herself after Jerad was fatally shot. Whether they might have killed others had Wilcox not stepped forward a decidedly brave if ill-advised act we can't know. What we do know is that a civilian, perhaps emboldened to heroism because he had a gun, is dead.
Even as we honor Wilcox appropriately, his death should give pause to any who insist that having more armed citizens is the best defense against a would-be killer. Even if one person were to stop a killer in his tracks, it is not logical to extrapolate the occasional success story as proof of the argument.
It also may be unfair to extrapolate that one failure means that having guns in civilian pockets can't ever be helpful. Having an experienced, well-trained person armed with a gun in the right place at the right time might well thwart a slaughter, though inarguably, not everyone with a permit to carry meets those qualifications.
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Satan walks among us, but being armed is not evil, its just common sense.
One data point is no “proof”. Real researchers like John Lott (”More Guns, Less Crime”) collate hundreds of contrary incidents into real statistics.
So the exception, rules, in the world of the MSM
This is just one story, leave it at that.
Hey, every now and then the perp wins... but I still know which way I’m going to bet.
It was a matter of his timing.
Had he known, he could have shot them both.
They had to waste their killing time monitoring and ambushing him, which they never would have bothered to do if he had been as automatically helpless as the rest.
Because of that delay, they were trapped in a building they could not escape from and died before they could kill anyone else.
One brave armed citizen probably saved several lives that day, while sacrificing his own.
Kathleen Parker is disgusting scum.
I can see Kathleen Parker is a mental giant. Maybe she should be in charge of us?
Ah, I see. The tired dodge of pretending that this is the first time something like this has ever happened, with a dash of false-choice fallacy.
I think the perp lost, thanks to him.
And then the next two sentences she tries to back peddle.
Kathleen Parker, you are a Bucking Fitch.
This has the attitude of "Just lock yourself in a room and wait for the police."
Do you suppose banning rocks would have saved Able from Cain?
Being armed increases your chance of survival, NOTHING guarantees your survival.
Snort!!!! dead on! LOL
I’m pretty sure that everyone can find at least one example of someone who’s fradulently gaming one of the government entitlement programs (SSI, Welfare, etc.) Therefore, by the logic of this article, that proves that entitlement programs are only used by those trying to game the system and should be eliminated. I’m sure that argument would fly just as well with the lefty who wrote this crap!
The author’s premise is false. The CC holder was not well trained or otherwise ignored the training he recieved.
Do not produce a weapon until you understand the situation. When you produce the weapon, act immediately to neutralize the aggressor. If these rules had been followed, at least one of the aggressors would have been neutralized, if not both.
With that said, the perps had already slaughtered two officers of the law, it is obvious that they were ready to kill and if the CC holder did everything correctly, he still may not have survived the encounter.
Regardless of the situation, this is not a valid argument against CC. A citizen tried to do the right thing and was not successful. It is not correct to state this is a reason not to let citizens be prepared.