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Iraqi Drama Catches U.S. Off Guard (Senior U.S. Off.: Makes you want to kill yourself)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Thursday, June 12, 2014 | Adam Entous and Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 06/12/2014 6:30:34 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: blueunicorn6

They are a reflection of the culture in Washington. The analysts are only as good as what their worldview allows them to see.


51 posted on 06/12/2014 8:09:13 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kristinn

Obama’s Vietnam....


52 posted on 06/12/2014 8:15:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: baddog 219

Bomb Mecca and it’s over. Not kidding. That black rock sitting in that shrine down there.

Islam believes that its invincible. It can’t be brought down and never will be.

You take that out, and Islam falls.

Sounds simplistic, but there are few that understand ME Islam at its roots. These aren’t learned, sophisticated people in a religion that withstands fundamental questions about the dogma that underpins it.

In the Carribean, we took on about 300 Haitians to repatriate them back to Haiti back in 1991 or so. Maybe 1992. They started getting rowdy on the forecastle, so one of the BM2s got the ‘Oscar dummy’ we used for man overboard drills (you hoist the ‘oscar’ flag in the mast to signify to all ships you have a M.O.).

He threw it on the deck and started beating and stabbing it.

End of unrest. Period.

People in the developed world take their freedom to openly question religion for granted. It’s not done in most of the world. You buy in, and that’s it.


53 posted on 06/12/2014 8:18:21 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: Redplum

your gas prices are about to go up.


54 posted on 06/12/2014 8:22:33 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: kristinn

"Trust me, ladies.. He's black and he can talk good and we get free condoms!" (applause)

55 posted on 06/12/2014 8:27:30 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: kristinn

Oliver North was interviewed this morning and he said that veterans are contacting him and talking about suicide due to whats happening in Afghanistan and Iraq. The blood of these men will forever be on the hands of Obama and his minions.


56 posted on 06/12/2014 8:27:33 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: kristinn

Why is anyone shocked?

We can’t even defend our own southern border.


57 posted on 06/12/2014 8:31:36 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: kristinn

Barry is using his “stash” to fund this new terrorist organization.


58 posted on 06/12/2014 8:42:35 AM PDT by major1971
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To: kristinn

I’m sure the ObamaQaida-sympathetic administration will do the right thing ..

and run a Red Crescent flag up over the WH ..

and make it official.

It’s either incompetency.. or??

None Dare Call It.. Uhhhhh


59 posted on 06/12/2014 8:47:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: kristinn

“It makes you want to kill yourself,” a senior U.S. official said

Don’t let me stop you, 0bama sycophant.


60 posted on 06/12/2014 8:48:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: Grampa Dave

I await Director Clapper’s remarks.

Catches US off guard?

like Obama’s rise to power.


61 posted on 06/12/2014 8:49:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: I cannot think of a name

You are being proven right. :-(


62 posted on 06/12/2014 8:50:29 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: concerned about politics

Sorry, the world isn’t like that anymore. That’s why - and how - a bunch of nutcases from an 8th century culture fighting an 8th century war took out 3,000 people who were just going to work on a beautiful fall morning in NYC.


63 posted on 06/12/2014 8:51:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: RinaseaofDs

Islam is not just a religion. Until the rest of the world gets that they will continue to cause chaos and mayhem.


64 posted on 06/12/2014 8:56:47 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: RinaseaofDs

Dome of the Rock, too.


65 posted on 06/12/2014 9:21:37 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: kristinn
Obama could care less. This turmoil in Iraq represents chaos, which Obama is all about. Cloward-Piven and all that. He is going to leave as big a mess as possible.
66 posted on 06/12/2014 9:23:36 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: kristinn
How is it that since Pearl Harbor, all the way to 9/11, the US is ALWAYS caught off guard? The world's best INTEL, the best Technology, brightest people, etc.?
I think it is a conceptual problem. It must be based on policies that are shortsighted, unrealistic and NIAVE that then render the INTEL community blind.
The current administration is not only blind but the most dangerous to global US interests since Pearl Harbor. We are witnessing Global US retreat. Eventually the dangers will reach US soil once again.
67 posted on 06/12/2014 9:28:34 AM PDT by Netz
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To: kristinn

- Obama is playing golf in Bagdad and on his cellphone to his Al-Kidder advisors… Good morning Iraq!


68 posted on 06/12/2014 9:31:44 AM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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To: kristinn
When is the president going to make a statement on the situation in Iraq?

I know he's busy watching the World Cup today, but if he could just spare a moment to acknowledge his criminal negligence and outright malfeasance, we can all go back to the match.

69 posted on 06/12/2014 9:36:02 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sort of like rubbing your nose in the mess with an Obama Cheshire like grin.
This will teach us a lesson I’m sure.


70 posted on 06/12/2014 9:43:37 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

and ISIS is getting good stuff we left in Iraq....like Blackhawks.

say, is this the same Isis related to Horace and Set?


71 posted on 06/12/2014 9:49:49 AM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: NormsRevenge

I love watching Clapper sweat and stumble on his words.

He was the funniest when he did his snort and remark about countries spying on each other:

General Clapper Tells Congress White House Knew About ...
news.firedoglake.com/.../general-clapper-tells-congress-white...
Firedoglake
Oct 30, 2013 - We’re talking about a huge enterprise here, with thousands and ... That it was dishonest for other nations to pretend they did not know about these programs. ....


72 posted on 06/12/2014 10:07:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: kristinn

Can we impeach this idiot yet?


73 posted on 06/12/2014 10:10:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: kristinn
But a senior U.S. official disputed the idea the Pentagon is "hapless and helpless" to stop ISIS. The administration has pursued a containment strategy, aimed at keeping the al Qaeda threat from spreading beyond Syria and Iraq to neighboring states, particularly Jordan. Oh, well, never mind then...
74 posted on 06/12/2014 10:26:31 AM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: kristinn

WSJ: Iran deploys Revolutionary Guard to fight ISIS.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/iran-deploys-forces-to-fight-al-qaeda-inspired-militants-in-iraq-iranian-security-sources-1402592470


75 posted on 06/12/2014 10:36:07 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: F15Eagle

It’s not his fault. He’s been working with “the international community” and they just can’t finish the job”. /sarc


76 posted on 06/12/2014 11:04:52 AM PDT by fision
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To: Netz

We have had the intel on the Middle Eastern threat all the way back in the late 80s and it was briefed then. The Russian Bear was the bigger threat at the time so the info was just filed away.

The US military always knew that airplanes can be used manned cruise missiles. Think Okinawa in 1945 where airplanes wrecked havoc with the fleet.


78 posted on 06/12/2014 11:29:00 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: F15Eagle
Obama be brilliant!!!!!!!

Obama Is Our Smartest President?
Historian Michael Beschloss was interviewed Monday on Don Imus’ radio show and he made the claim that President-elect Obama’s IQ is off the charts and that he is the smartest president we have ever had. Here is the meat of the conversation:
Historian Michael Beschloss: Yeah. Even aside from the fact of electing the first African American President and whatever one’s partisan views this is a guy whose IQ is off the charts — I mean you cannot say that he is anything but a very serious and capable leader and — you know — You and I have talked about this for years …
Imus: Well. What is his IQ?
Historian Michael Beschloss: … our system doesn’t allow those people to become President, those people meaning people THAT smart and THAT capable
Imus: What is his IQ?
Historian Michael Beschloss: Pardon?
Imus: What is his IQ? .......more


79 posted on 06/12/2014 11:29:02 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: kristinn

‘(Senior U.S. Off.: Makes you want to kill yourself)’

He should take his own advise and fall on his sword.

The Big Zero is trying to take us out of foreign entanglements? First I have heard of it and I am quite sure that Jews and Christians in the Middle East would have a very different view.

I am glad that he thinks we are stupid and not that we are too spineless to call him out on his lies.


81 posted on 06/12/2014 11:37:37 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: kristinn

Photo on Drudge of the insurgents driving OUR BEIGE TANKS AND HUMVEES disgusting.


82 posted on 06/12/2014 11:46:29 AM PDT by floriduh voter (ERIC CANTOR, buh bye!)
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To: dfwgator
Where's Shazam?

Apparently, he's leading the insurgent effort – Shazam al-Sham & the Rebels

83 posted on 06/12/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by mikrofon (Obama Fail BUMP)
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To: R_Kangel
Repeat after me, Mujahedeen – 'Buenos Dias, Senor.'
84 posted on 06/12/2014 11:54:13 AM PDT by mikrofon (Obama Fail BUMP)
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To: F15Eagle

Sadly that graphic is perfect for this thread. I wish it weren’t :-(


85 posted on 06/12/2014 12:02:56 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Grampa Dave

Why do you think Obama was "pumping iron" in Germany the other day? He knew the job was about to get really hard. /sarc

86 posted on 06/12/2014 12:26:21 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: anymouse
But don't worry, the Republicans have a Bush ready to step up to the challenge. ;)


87 posted on 06/12/2014 12:30:28 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: kristinn
The quickly unfolding drama prompted a White House meeting Wednesday of top policy makers and military leaders who were caught off guard by the swift collapse of Iraqi security forces, officials acknowledged.

Perhaps military leaders were caught off guard by this mess, but Obama, Jarrett, Clinton and their minions in the State Dept. are the architects of this disaster. I doubt they care very much about any of this.

89 posted on 06/12/2014 12:57:35 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: blueunicorn6

>>Then why in the world are we spending such big bucks for our intelligence organizations?<<

My belief is that the IT data goes to our major banks and large corporations so they have a head start on foreign corporations and foreign governments. The data tells them what to expect in the way of foreign market potential.


90 posted on 06/12/2014 1:04:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: dfwgator
In hindsight, it was better to leave Saddam in charge.

Yes, it was. And Mubarak and Gaddafi and Assad, too. Sure, they were a$$holes. But they kept the psychotic muzzies in line. Not only that, in their regimes churches, and yes, even synagogues, were open and relatively safe places to worship.

In all of these countries, the Christian and Jewish religious minorities have been or are being exterminated.

91 posted on 06/12/2014 1:07:45 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: kristinn

Iran is the problem, has been for decades. Iraq is 60 percent shittite, Iran is 90. The Leading Ayatollah for Iraq, Sistani, was born in IRAN.

When we allowed Iraq to mandate in their Constitution that “NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM” our troops were from that point on fighting FOR IRAN, while being attacked by them too.

But since OUR Leader decided to proclaim ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE...well it was Nam redux. And now that our troops have left....so has the peace and the money.

Will Iraq ask Iran for help. Is Iran supporting the Caliphate Forces? Is Iraq in an Iranian sandwich? Is this Caliphate Advance a Sunni controlled Force? If it is, then we could see problems for Iran and tremendous bloodshed for Iraq and to a lesser extent Iran.


92 posted on 06/12/2014 1:34:09 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Redplum

Yep


93 posted on 06/12/2014 1:34:25 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: skams19
If ignorance was a valid defense for dereliction of duty as the US President, Obama would score 5 stars.
94 posted on 06/12/2014 1:36:18 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: dfwgator

Right. Too busy looking into “us”.


95 posted on 06/12/2014 2:30:49 PM PDT by Rick66 (Allah hates me, the feeling is mutual.)
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To: kristinn
no, not MYSELF...
96 posted on 06/12/2014 2:37:22 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: F15Eagle

There is a standing wall to his right. He aint done yet.


97 posted on 06/12/2014 2:37:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Netz

The core of this is that the planet has a liberal problem.

fins a closet, put them back in it where they were for most of history and the problems reduce drastically. Not entirely, but drastically.

Because with no liberals in power, sane people can deal with anything.


98 posted on 06/12/2014 2:43:11 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: dfwgator

But they can tell you what Freepers had for breakfast.


99 posted on 06/12/2014 2:58:21 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: hal ogen

He did...Good thing I hadn’t had dinner yet or I would have lost it.

What a crew...Hagel, Kerry, Hillary, Valerie Jarett..and then of course, the Administrations’ frat boys..”DUUUDE!”


100 posted on 06/12/2014 3:10:21 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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