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The most important thing you probably don’t know about cholesterol
Health for the 21st Century ^ | Chris Kresser

Posted on 06/12/2014 8:30:19 AM PDT by djf

It's not saturated fats or cholesterol that increases the amount of small, dense ldl we have in our blood. It's carbohydrates.

(Excerpt) Read more at chriskresser.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: carbohydrates; carbs; cholesterol
This research is the final nail in the coffin for the cholesterol fanatics...
1 posted on 06/12/2014 8:30:19 AM PDT by djf
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To: djf

Also read information at the International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics:

http://www.thincs.org/

It’s a worldwide group of doctors and scientists who have rejected the lipid theory of heart disease.


2 posted on 06/12/2014 8:33:37 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: djf

But the government says I should eat almost no meat, but consume 2,000,000 servings of carbs per day; the good news being that I can “burn off” all those carbs by doing 197 hours of “cardio” every day.

Almost everything the powers that be have said about exercise and nutrition over the past 40 years has been wrong, possibly on purpose.


3 posted on 06/12/2014 8:34:32 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: djf

CHOLESTEROL DENIERS!......................../s


4 posted on 06/12/2014 8:38:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: cdcdawg

Good reply.

You left out that we must go on the statins which are very harmful to anyone who takes them while:

“But the government says I should eat almost no meat, but consume 2,000,000 servings of carbs per day; the good news being that I can “burn off” all those carbs by doing 197 hours of “cardio” every day.

Almost everything the powers that be have said about exercise and nutrition over the past 40 years has been wrong, possibly on purpose.”

These lies started during the LBJ years. One might view them as a silent and dangerous campaign to make Americans overweight, diabetic and weak.


5 posted on 06/12/2014 8:42:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: cdcdawg

“Almost everything the powers that be have said about exercise and nutrition over the past 40 years has been wrong, possibly on purpose.”

Possibly? Methinks it’s something more than that.


6 posted on 06/12/2014 8:44:47 AM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: cdcdawg
If a food is advertised, you should think twice about eating it.

We cannot have correct nutritional information published, it would shut down a huge percentage of the economy if people ate as they should.

7 posted on 06/12/2014 8:45:44 AM PDT by AdSimp
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To: djf

Everything in moderation, nothing in excess seems to be what most of the people I’ve talked to who are both old and healthy practice.

There’s no such thing as a safe substance, only safe amounts.


8 posted on 06/12/2014 8:45:45 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: djf

Is it OK to eat eggs again (regardless of what Dr. Oz says)?

Cholesterol from your diet is broken down in the digestive process, and the metabolites from that dietary cholesterol do not form back into LDL cholesterol. Your liver, however, is working overtime to convert other circulating compounds in your bloodstream into a number of different lipids that are either stored in body tissues, or are used for internal body repair.

The human body is WAY more sophisticated and nuanced than even the most knowledgeable of researchers has yet discovered.


9 posted on 06/12/2014 8:47:02 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: djf

As the late Roseanne Roseannadanna would say.

“Well, Jane, it just goes to show you, it’s always something—if it ain’t one thing, it’s another.”


10 posted on 06/12/2014 8:48:09 AM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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To: Paulie

“Possibly? Methinks it’s something more than that.”

Well, I was trying to be nice.


11 posted on 06/12/2014 8:48:10 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Red Badger

I had deduced a while back that there MUST be at least two different types of ldl’s. This research proves it.

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What are ldl’s?

In the body, we have fats, carbs, and proteins. Fats are NECESSARY to life.

But fats cannot exist standalone in the blood. They are insoluble.

LDL’s are proteins with a special purpose. They are hydrophilic (love water) on one end, and lipophilic (love fats) on the other. In the body, a bunch of these will surround fats (and other substances!!) and form a balloon of material to transport it through the bloodstream.

So ldl’s, in and of themselves, are not the enemy. It is what some of them are carrying that is.

And it has taken them MILLIONS OF DOLLARS of research, spanning MULTIPLE GENERATIONS of lives (and deaths!!) to finally figure this out!!


12 posted on 06/12/2014 8:49:52 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf
This research is the final nail in the coffin for the cholesterol fanatics...

An acupuncturist says so.

13 posted on 06/12/2014 8:50:56 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Grampa Dave

If that was their intent, mission accomplished.

Vegetarians and runners have both had an undue influence on health policy. They have some interesting and valuable things to say, but they have been given the entire stage, to the detriment of the nation’s health.


14 posted on 06/12/2014 8:51:42 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: djf

And, I believe HIGH triglycerides are developed from eating too many carbs/sugars....lower the carbs/sugars...and the triglycerides drop. Tri’s LOVE sugar.


15 posted on 06/12/2014 8:53:05 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: djf

If you are taking cholesterol meds, stop today. Don’t take another pill. I took them for a few years on and off, they made me feel like crap, and now I have nerve damage in my feet which I believe 100% was caused by statins, and will never heal. There are group chats about this out there too.

My mom has been on statins for years and can barely feel her feet. If you’re taking them and your feet are cold or numb, you have it too.

I stopped all that BS 1.5 years ago, stopped eating lowfat everything, went back to red meat, EGGS, pork, all the stuff I loved...my cholestrol DROPPED a LOT.

Also, your body NEEDS cholestrol...why do you think it produces it? DUH.


16 posted on 06/12/2014 8:53:08 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: alloysteel

Have at it!

I routinely eat three eggs a day. It makes sense that eggs are the perfect food, as they have everything in them it takes to make a living being.

And I am 5’7” and weigh 130 lbs...


17 posted on 06/12/2014 8:53:24 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: cdcdawg

“Almost everything the powers that be have said about exercise and nutrition over the past 40 years has been wrong, possibly on purpose.”

BINGO!!!


18 posted on 06/12/2014 8:58:36 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: djf

ATKINS WAS RIGHT!


19 posted on 06/12/2014 9:01:51 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Yup!


20 posted on 06/12/2014 9:03:13 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: Red Badger

You are a TRUTHER, nananana!


21 posted on 06/12/2014 9:03:23 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: Mich Patriot
Mich Patriot said: "I stopped all that BS 1.5 years ago, stopped eating lowfat everything, went back to red meat, EGGS, pork, all the stuff I loved...my cholestrol DROPPED a LOT."

I did the same thing. I don't think my cholesterol dropped, but my coronary arteries did become up to 95% obstructed. As soon as I recover from my quadruple bypass operation I intend to study the matter to discover how to make the most of my recent repair.

22 posted on 06/12/2014 9:14:33 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Mich Patriot
I stopped all that BS 1.5 years ago, stopped eating lowfat everything, went back to red meat, EGGS, pork, all the stuff I loved...my cholestrol DROPPED a LOT.

I had the same experience. I switched to low carb diet, threw out the margarine and brought on the real butter, red meats, pork and lots of eggs. Cholestrol went from 246 to 153, and I've lost 90 pounds. It really does work.

23 posted on 06/12/2014 9:20:00 AM PDT by lafroste (matthewharbert.wix.com/matthew-harbert)
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To: William Tell

I suspect there is a genetic component to it.


24 posted on 06/12/2014 9:21:51 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: lafroste

Yes, I forgot to mention that I threw out the margarine and went to butter, and I use olive oil a lot too.

I do still think lean meats are important to mix in...can’t be all bacon and sausage. I’d rather die than quit eating steak. :)


25 posted on 06/12/2014 9:22:17 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: djf
djf said: "I suspect there is a genetic component to it."

I think you may be on to something. Unfortunately, no do-overs for that.

I don't know a great deal about my family's medical history but what I do know is not encouraging.

26 posted on 06/12/2014 9:25:57 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: djf
Well worth the time to watch the video at this link .... it will make your blood boil when you see how the government got into this and how the studies/science were twisted to the exact opposite of what they actually showed so big money could be made off of the "low fat" meme ... which is when the obesity epidemic in this country started. The exact same thing is going on with the global warming/climate change hoax being perpetrated today.

How did we come to believe saturated fat and cholesterol are bad for us?

27 posted on 06/12/2014 9:29:32 AM PDT by Qiviut ( Dave Brat was “Eric Cantor’s Term Limit” BOOM!! Yes, We the People CAN vote the b@stards OUT!!!)
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To: djf

I have eaten what I want and what I like to eat all my life. I am 66, my first visit(two weeks ago) to my local VA clinic they took various(6) samples of blood for testing. One was for cholesterol levels.

I am 5’8” and weigh 145.

RESULTS OF TEST

Total CHOL: 161 (Optimal)
HDL: 76
LDL 68
Triglcerides: 84

My goal should be:
Total CHOL: Less than 200
HDL: 40-60
LDL: Less than 100
TRIG: Less than 150

Was told the results were normal and that I have been doing a good job.

I will continue to eat what ever I want and what I like.


28 posted on 06/12/2014 9:31:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: cdcdawg

Almost everything the powers that be have said about exercise and nutrition over the past 40 years has been wrong, possibly on purpose.

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See link at comment 27 .... you are correct.


29 posted on 06/12/2014 9:32:10 AM PDT by Qiviut ( Dave Brat was “Eric Cantor’s Term Limit” BOOM!! Yes, We the People CAN vote the b@stards OUT!!!)
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To: lafroste

The government gave land to the railrod biulders. Who controlled the transportation of the cattle. They bought up all the grain and controlled the transportation of that. When they bought all the grain, it rotted in the silos. They hired scientists to develope a way to store the grain longer without rotting - bleached white flour. Will the grain not rotting they again had excess food. Ever heard of General Mills, pilbury and such? They went to the government to create a suggested diet that contained grain - the introduction of the USDA food piramide. The government has since made modifications based on what industry is willing to pay for re-election funds.


30 posted on 06/12/2014 9:46:59 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: Signalman

No, Atkins was also wrong. Excess protein harms kidneys and more. It makes the liver work overtime to convert the excess to glucose that the body must have to survive and then, when the “diet” stops, the liver doesn’t quit what it got into the habit of doing. The answer is BALANCE, but Americans don’t like to think that way.


31 posted on 06/12/2014 9:51:49 AM PDT by Bravada (Wherever I Stand, I Stand With Israel!)
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To: djf

Life is a terminal illness.


32 posted on 06/12/2014 10:14:05 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: djf

Isn’t Michelle Obama forcing school aged kids to eat less meat and more carbs to reduce childhood obesity? Won’t her program have the opposite effect?


33 posted on 06/12/2014 10:26:32 AM PDT by Essie
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To: Qiviut

Great video!

Good to show it to people who say “fat, cholesterol, blah blah blah...”


34 posted on 06/12/2014 11:13:12 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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