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Radio star Casey Kasem taken off life support
The Washington Times ^ | 06/12/2014 | By Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 06/12/2014 11:28:12 AM PDT by redreno

Radio personality Casey Kasem has been taken off life support after a judge ruled Wednesday that daughter Kerri Kasem could start withholding medication, food and fluids.

Mr. Kasem, 82, is suffering from Parkinson’s disease, sepsis and dementia, the Detroit Free Press reported.

“Transitioning our father’s treatment to comfort-oriented care was one of the hardest decisions we’ve ever had to make,” Kerri wrote on her Facebook page Wednesday.

“For people who do not understand the natural dying process: Giving food and water to a dying body creates pain and further suffering,” she wrote in a later post. “The body does not want or require food or water anymore in the dying process. My father can no longer digest foods and fluids fill his lungs up and will suffocate him. My Dad IS on pain meds.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caseykasem; death; elderly; kasem; lifesupport; prolife; radio; radiostar; top40
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1 posted on 06/12/2014 11:28:12 AM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

Scooby Doo mourns!


2 posted on 06/12/2014 11:32:21 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: redreno

There comes a time when life ending decisions have to be made. May your passing be swift and gentle, Casey.


3 posted on 06/12/2014 11:32:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: redreno

His final countdown!


4 posted on 06/12/2014 11:33:31 AM PDT by AU72
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To: redreno

Its my understanding that Casey did sign a living will where he expressed his desire not to be kept artifically alive by maching and forced feeding.


5 posted on 06/12/2014 11:34:27 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: redreno

Casey Kasem………….unplugged too soon?


6 posted on 06/12/2014 11:34:34 AM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: redreno

Casey Kasem......Part of Americana.


7 posted on 06/12/2014 11:35:03 AM PDT by V_TWIN (white pri)
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To: redreno

When you go, go in peace and comfort, Casey.....


8 posted on 06/12/2014 11:35:31 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: redreno

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

I hope Shaggy came to Christmas somewhere along the way.
He had a long life.


9 posted on 06/12/2014 11:36:04 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

The irritating Skype error correct strikes again. I may have to uninstall it.


10 posted on 06/12/2014 11:37:36 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: redreno

Now his kids can get, the money, which is the important thing. I guess they should have smothered him ten years ago, so they wouldn’t have to wait.


11 posted on 06/12/2014 11:38:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah we had to make that decision with my mother too, it is among the hardest thing to do. May Casey Kasem pass in peace and keep reaching for the stars.


12 posted on 06/12/2014 11:38:56 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: MrEdd

My Kindle Fire does that all the time. It makes me crazy!!!


13 posted on 06/12/2014 11:42:18 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (She accomplished nothing: should have stayed at home and baked cookies)
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To: redreno; cripplecreek

A son of the Mitten-state. Casey was born to Lebanese immigrants in Detroit, graduated Northwestern HS and Wayne State.


14 posted on 06/12/2014 11:45:32 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: cotton1706; wagglebee

A ventilator is “life support.”

Food and water are not “life support.”

They are basic human rights, not medical interventions that can be arbitrarily withheld. Withholding them will cause his death, not the dementia or the sepsis.

If his body truly cannot assimilate them, then yes, they may do more harm than good. But that is rarely if ever the case these days in stories like this.


15 posted on 06/12/2014 11:50:41 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Adding)
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To: redreno
Radio personality Casey Kasem has been taken off life support after a judge ruled Wednesday that daughter Kerri Kasem could start withholding medication, food and fluids. Mr. Kasem, 82, is suffering from Parkinson’s disease, sepsis and dementia, the Detroit Free Press reported.

I didn't know that the courts had located him.

16 posted on 06/12/2014 11:53:29 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
A ventilator is “life support.” Food and water are not “life support.” They are basic human rights

Interesting.

17 posted on 06/12/2014 11:55:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: AU72

Keep Reaching for the Stars, Casey


18 posted on 06/12/2014 12:00:12 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alex Murphy

A cheeseburger, fries and a shake are food and drink when we feed ourselves or cut them up into little bites and use a spoon to feed our children. They don’t miraculously become something other than a cheeseburger, fries and a shake just because we use some other method to deliver them. Food and water are always basic human rights, always ordinary care, and always mandatory in Christian medical ethics unless the body cannot assimilate them.

If they are going to be stopped, the question must be asked: “What is the proximate cause of death?”

In this case, will Casey die from the dementia or the sepsis, or will he die from dehydration leading to blood volume loss and organ failure?

If the latter them he will die from euthanasia, not from the withdrawal of “life support.”


19 posted on 06/12/2014 12:02:04 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: redreno
This is a completely serious question.

Can somebody please explain how this works. His wife wants him to stay on life support, but his kids want him off. So the kids win.

Nine years ago, the parents of Terri Shiavo wanted her kept on life support, but the husband wanted her off. So the husband wins.

Are these just differences between the two states these cases occurred in, or is it just that whoever wants to pull the plug always wins?

20 posted on 06/12/2014 12:07:21 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

How did people die before the machines took over. I think when you are in your last days, you are better off going to your eternal reward, then lying there comatose while someone fills you full of crap just so you can “live” another miniscule amount of time. People insist on this in hopeless cases just to raise the hospital bills.


21 posted on 06/12/2014 12:15:19 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

“Food and water are not “life support.””

Is he getting his food and water orally or through IV’s? Is he even cognizent of his surroundings? What kind of life is he living? Is there any hope of a recovery?

It is a tough decision for a relaive to have to make. I had to do it with my mother. My wife has had to do it with both parents. My neighbors have had to do it with one just yesterday with her mother. It is a tough decision to have to make.


22 posted on 06/12/2014 12:15:54 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nickcarraway

He disinherited the kids making the decisionslong ago. I presume the kid by his current wife is not disinherited


23 posted on 06/12/2014 12:17:43 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Parley Baer

Basic human rights are basic human rights and have nothing to do with so called “quality of life” or whether the patient is awake and alert. Food and water are basic human rights. They are rights independent of the quality of life of the patient. Withholding food and water causes the patient to die by dehydration, a painful merciless death for which people are jailed if they do it to a pet. How did we get to the point of excusing it in human cases?


24 posted on 06/12/2014 12:26:49 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
In this case, will Casey die from the dementia or the sepsis, or will he die from dehydration leading to blood volume loss and organ failure?

I'm with you on this.

If his heart is beating on its own and he's breathing without the need for a ventilator, then God is keeping him alive.

If you withhold food and water, then you are killing him.

Regardless of what the doctors say, we have no way of knowing whether someone is still there or not. So, the only truly compassionate thing to do is to make them as comfortable as we can, for as long as necessary, until God decides it's time for them to come home.

25 posted on 06/12/2014 12:28:17 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Food and water are not a basic human right. No one is entitled to be fed and hydrated simply by virtue of being born human. “Those who will not work, shall not eat.”

Free speech, freedom of conscience, free assembly, RKBA... these are human rights. Food and water are not.


26 posted on 06/12/2014 12:31:06 PM PDT by Notforprophet (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Parley Baer
Is he getting his food and water orally or through IV’s?

Its just food and drink either way. A drink of water is a drink of water whether a person pours themself a glass and drinks, a mom puts it in a bottle and holds it for a baby, it's mixed with thickener and delivered through a straw for an elderly patient with difficulty swallowing, or through a couple inches of tubing through a feeding tube or IV. It's still just a drink of water, a basic human right that cannot be arbitrarily withheld based only on method of delivery or someone's subjective evaluation of "quality of life." Human life is precious and sacred regardless of ObamaCare's or anyone else's evaluation of how much that life is contributing to society.

27 posted on 06/12/2014 12:34:24 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Parley Baer
Is he even cognizent of his surroundings?

No one can really tell whether people are cognizant or not.

There are plenty of examples of people who were declared brain-dead by the doctors only to wake up later and tell of being trapped in their own bodies and being fully cognizant of their surroundings. See: overhears doctors talk about organ donation and woman comes out of coma, organ donation

28 posted on 06/12/2014 12:39:30 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Notforprophet
Free speech, freedom of conscience, free assembly, RKBA... these are human rights. Food and water are not.

Wow, radical libertarianism of the worst sort.

There's a difference between refusing to work and being unable to work. Pagans let those unable to work die, or actively kill them. Americans don't.

29 posted on 06/12/2014 12:40:09 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Notforprophet
No one is entitled to be fed and hydrated simply by virtue of being born human. “Those who will not work, shall not eat.”

Even infants?

Aren't you the lucky one whose mother and father didn't apply this biblical rule to you after you were born.

30 posted on 06/12/2014 12:40:42 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Notforprophet
“Those who will not work, shall not eat.”

Looks like we have about 40 million people that need to go in this country alone.

(Can't say that in most cases I don't agree with your sentiments, although I would include the qualifier: able-bodied)

31 posted on 06/12/2014 12:43:57 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
A drink of water is a drink of water whether a person pours themself a glass and drinks, a mom puts it in a bottle and holds it for a baby, it's mixed with thickener and delivered through a straw for an elderly patient with difficulty swallowing, or through a couple inches of tubing through a feeding tube or IV. It's still just a drink of water...

Hear, hear!

Just like the only advocates for abortion are those who themselves have already been born, those who say we should withhold food and water from the infirmed are those who themselves were (mostly) lovingly fed food and water as infants.

32 posted on 06/12/2014 12:53:46 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Plus they want us to believe that death by dehydration is all comfy and euphoric, and natural and painless.

Anyone ever get the flu and get really dehydrated? How did you feel? Pretty bad, right? Downright painful - body aches, muscle aches, headaches, everything HURTS!

Did you go to the ER and get an IV to get rehydrated? Notice how quickly you felt better, like a light switch?

And they want us to believe that death by dehydration (that’s the reality of death by starvation, the dehydration is what kills) is a comfy, euphoric way to die?

Sorry, but we can’t let this BS go unanswered. The reason they ALWAYS give morphine when they take away fluids is to mask the reality of how torturous the process is.


33 posted on 06/12/2014 1:15:19 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: I cannot think of a name

The way I see it; Terri Schiavo was not dying; her family wanted to get her therapy, which was denied. We will never know if she would have responded, but she was never given the chance.

Casey Kasem is in the end stages of his disease, and is dying; if the food and fluids are not being absorbed and making his dying process more uncomfortable, they are thereby serving no useful purpose.

I refuse to second guess his doctors and family; this is not an easy decision.


34 posted on 06/12/2014 1:35:29 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (She accomplished nothing: should have stayed at home and baked cookies)
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To: DLfromthedesert

My only point was this: the law is supposed to be consistent. In the Schiavo case, the court clearly said the spouse has the final call. In fact they really wouldn’t let people argue the medical pros and cons to a great extent. In this case, the kids are being given the final call and the spouse shut out. Where is the consistency?

(And a personal note, if I am given the warning, I would take things into my own hands. The last thing I ever want is to lay in a bed helpless being tended to by who knows what!)


35 posted on 06/12/2014 2:19:12 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

There’s a difference between charity or welfare and basic human rights. I’m sorry but food, water, shelter, etc. don’t come to people as a human right. They may come from altruism, socialism, or many other means but not as natural human rights.


36 posted on 06/12/2014 2:42:43 PM PDT by Notforprophet (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: cotton1706

And Batman’s sidekick Robin.


37 posted on 06/12/2014 2:44:26 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Talk about reductio ad absurdum. There is a difference between familial relationships and child-rearing, and defining a human right to food, water, shelter, etc. This is the language of the Left: living wages, health care as a right, etc. Absolutely people should be charitable to each other, but defining a basic human right to food and water is ridiculous.


38 posted on 06/12/2014 2:45:43 PM PDT by Notforprophet (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: redreno

I wish you a good passage, my first boss. Thank you for everything.


39 posted on 06/12/2014 2:45:46 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Denying water/hydration just seems utterly sadistic and depraved.


40 posted on 06/12/2014 2:50:46 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Notforprophet
There is a difference between familial relationships and child-rearing, and defining a human right to food, water, shelter, etc.

An infirmed parent or sibling has the same basic needs for food, water, shelter, etc. as an infant child.

Would you leave your infirmed parent to die because they 'will not work'?

41 posted on 06/12/2014 3:13:14 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Once again you’re missing my point.

People should and are caring and charitable to one another for many diverse reasons. But the idea of human rights, yea the phrase and words themselves, have a meaning. When we casually define everything as a human right we cheapen the real meaning of human rights.

I invite you to read John Locke a familiarize yourself once again with natural rights.


42 posted on 06/12/2014 3:46:45 PM PDT by Notforprophet (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

You got that right. I think this is a horrible way for people to rationalize murder. He will pass on in time. To withhold water and food is to murder him.


43 posted on 06/12/2014 4:16:56 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Have you ever personally and physically dealt with someone during end of life care? If you have, you’d know that attempting to force (and I say force because many refuse) food and water on a terminally ill person can hasten their death.


44 posted on 06/12/2014 4:38:38 PM PDT by coop71 (Posting from Iceland.)
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To: Notforprophet
Once again you’re missing my point.

No, I'm not. I understand your point.

You're putting words into my mouth and arguing with me for something I never said.

Please show where I said on this thread that food and water are a human right.

45 posted on 06/12/2014 4:47:37 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: redreno

Facebook? Thank goodness it wasn’t announced on Twitter. That would have been tasteless.


46 posted on 06/12/2014 4:50:40 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: coop71

Yes. I work for a hospice provider so I’m very familiar with when food and water becomes overly burdensome at end of life versus when its taken away simply to hasten death. The latter is far more common these days than the former, unfortunately.


47 posted on 06/12/2014 5:01:23 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Food and water basic human rights?


48 posted on 06/12/2014 5:08:32 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

So you’re saying that these days, the actual death of the dying is often hastened because medical professionals and family members starve and dehydrate the patient...even though this dying person can still eat and drink? What hospice provider would permit this, and why have you not documented and reported the staff to your state boards?


49 posted on 06/12/2014 5:15:28 PM PDT by coop71 (Posting from Iceland.)
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To: redreno
Radio personality Casey Kasem has been taken off life support after a judge ruled Wednesday that daughter Kerri Kasem could start withholding medication, food and fluids.

Conflating "life support" and the withholding of food and fluids is Nazi-esque euphemism at its worst.

50 posted on 06/12/2014 5:22:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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