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Russia sending tanks across border into Ukraine, Kiev says
LA Times ^ | 12 June 2014 | Sergei L. Loiko, Carol J. Williams

Posted on 06/12/2014 2:04:49 PM PDT by CMB_polarization

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1 posted on 06/12/2014 2:04:49 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: CMB_polarization

Didn’t Commander Obama draw a red line against this kind of stuff?


2 posted on 06/12/2014 2:06:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

He sent a bunch of letters and John Kerry also.


3 posted on 06/12/2014 2:07:49 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

John eff Kerry the Vietnam vet?


4 posted on 06/12/2014 2:10:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: CMB_polarization

Quick! Issue a tweet with a hashtag of #graveConcern !


5 posted on 06/12/2014 2:11:19 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: don-o

Actually Putin is just trying to get there before Al Queda is done in Iraq and starts heading the other way.


6 posted on 06/12/2014 2:12:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: CMB_polarization

Stop....or I’ll yell Stop again


7 posted on 06/12/2014 2:12:52 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: nascarnation

bump.. probably..


8 posted on 06/12/2014 2:13:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: CMB_polarization

I wish they would invade California while they are at it.


9 posted on 06/12/2014 2:18:22 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: CMB_polarization
Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said a “column” with armored vehicles had crossed from Russia through border control points controlled by separatists near the village of Dyakove in eastern Ukraine. Three tanks went to the town of Snizhne, about 40 kilometers (25 miles) from Dyakove, and one remained there while the two others headed toward the town of Horlivka and were engaged by the Ukrainian military, he said. He added that part of the column was destroyed.

I am skeptical that Putin is sending tanks into the Ukraine to provide the Ukrainian military with target practice. My own $0.05 is that units of the Ukrainian military engaged other units of the Ukrainian military.

10 posted on 06/12/2014 2:20:48 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: CMB_polarization

We need some hashtags and selfies to stop this immediately.


11 posted on 06/12/2014 2:22:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: CMB_polarization

Lots of different stories about this. The Ukrainians have claimed they are t-72’s in some stories, T-62’s in others.

If the different tales are to be believed, they came from:

A) Captured in Crimea, and brought through Southern Russia
B) T-62B’s that were captured from the Ukrainian Army in Southern Ukraine

There are numerous videos of the rebels using captured/abandoned/bought equipment, and it is confirmed that they captured at least one broke-down T-72 with reactive armor at a base in southern Ukraine.

They have even gotten WW2-era stuff running, including some of the 23 DUKW’s they found abandoned warehouse in Donetsk, an IS-3 “Stalin” that had been sitting on an outside concrete display stand for 60+ years, and several pieces from a WW2 Museum also in Donetsk.

We know Kiev has been deploying as many as 40 tanks at a time between Slovyansk and Luhansk, and that the rebels have captured a few of even the latest model Ukrainian stuff, but this is apparently too far south for that.

I tend to think it is the first case, as there were tweets a couple of weeks ago that Crimean volunteers were trying to get “Several” broken down T-62’s that the Ukrainians had left behind running.

EuroMaidanPR claims they were in a town called Makiivka 2 hours ago, so they are probably already in Donetsk by now.


13 posted on 06/12/2014 2:29:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: CMB_polarization

And ALL the walls come tumbling down on the same day.

Wait for it, there will be another shoe fall soon. Expect it to be bad. You probably won’t be disappointed.


14 posted on 06/12/2014 2:31:55 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: CMB_polarization

Expect the ChiComs and NoKos to start misbehaving next. Mullah Baraq is being Cloward-Piven’ed on the world stage.


15 posted on 06/12/2014 2:37:11 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: Sooth2222

“My own $0.05 is that units of the Ukrainian military engaged other units of the Ukrainian military”

Entirely possible, given events, but I still think these are out of Crimea. Lots of Media stories about how Cossack Volunteers from Crimea were planning to head to “Novorussia” soon. Given how prevalent smuggling is in that part of the world, it is highly likely that these never touched “Russian” soil.

Putin wouldn’t send in a trio of old T-62’s, if he were testing, or trying to send a message.


16 posted on 06/12/2014 2:38:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: CMB_polarization

So far all that´s certain is that rebel forces in Ukraine today started showing off 3 T-64s today.


17 posted on 06/12/2014 2:41:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: CMB_polarization

We should ask Putin to deploy some tanks on our southern border. We would have more of a chance of getting a reponse by asking him than Obongo.


18 posted on 06/12/2014 2:45:01 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: tcrlaf
If the different tales are to be believed, they came from: A) Captured in Crimea, and brought through Southern Russia B) T-62B’s that were captured from the Ukrainian Army in Southern Ukraine

IOW, the resident Pro-Moscow/Paulistinian wants us to believe that Russia has nothing to do with it, even though the tanks, naturally, would have to pass through several hundred miles of Russian territory and then past Russian military garrisons and checkpoints to enter Ukraine.

The media is reporting that they are T-72s, by the way.

19 posted on 06/12/2014 2:45:42 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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VIDEO of the three tanks entering a Donetsk suburb just before dark today, supposedly.

It shows the three tanks, and two KAMAZ, with one towing a light AA gun (SU-1?).

They look like T-62’s to me, but don’t T-64’s look almost the same?


20 posted on 06/12/2014 2:45:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Sooth2222

“I am skeptical that Putin is sending tanks into the Ukraine to provide the Ukrainian military with target practice. My own $0.05 is that units of the Ukrainian military engaged other units of the Ukrainian military.”

Quite possible, or the unready to be ethnically cleansed have captured even more EUkrainian vehicles. The Nazis found their Ukrainian clients to be a waste of kit in any real fighting. Not much has changed for their EUrocrat successors it would appear.


21 posted on 06/12/2014 2:47:39 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Happier than a Svoboda skinhead with a free new armband.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

They could just as easily have been put on a barge and floated there. Remember, this is already a smuggler’s haven area. I prefer to not jump to conclusions, especially given the veracity of so many Kiev claims.

Unless you really do think the airstrike in central Donetsk was just an Air Conditioner that blew up.


22 posted on 06/12/2014 2:49:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: clintonh8r

Serbs will move on Kosovo? Basque separatists? China takes a bunch of little islands and Taiwan? Russia takes the Aleutians? Why not?


23 posted on 06/12/2014 2:50:10 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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OOPS...

Forgot to include the video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q977zU2J1ww


24 posted on 06/12/2014 2:50:51 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Another video of the same convoy moving through Torez, earlier today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L12JK-ZoLLg


25 posted on 06/12/2014 2:52:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh yeah, he drew a line alright.

A yellow line .. Down his back.


26 posted on 06/12/2014 2:53:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: tcrlaf
They could just as easily have been put on a barge and floated there. Remember, this is already a smuggler’s haven area.

It's a "smuggler's haven area" because the Russians are sending the smugglers. As for this "barge" nonsense, how does one sail a barge with tanks on it from Crimea, which has a Red Naval base, and land it anywhere else but Russian territory and then drive it into Ukraine? Maybe it was a rocket ship that landed in the UK and then was shipped via airline?

27 posted on 06/12/2014 2:53:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CMB_polarization

What a sense of timing the commander there has.


28 posted on 06/12/2014 2:55:14 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“The media is reporting that they are T-72s, by the way.”

The “media” is largely proven to know very little about arms.

Wouldn’t a T-72 have a large flash suppressor?


29 posted on 06/12/2014 2:56:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: CMB_polarization

For just a split second, I thought the headline read: “U.S. sending tanks into Mexico.”


30 posted on 06/12/2014 2:57:12 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Map of Ukraine:
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?encType=1&where1=Ukraine&cp=48.9265632629395~31.4757823944092&FORM=MIRE2

The big blue thingy in the center is called “The Sea of Azov”.


31 posted on 06/12/2014 2:58:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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32 posted on 06/12/2014 3:00:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama will have to go Congress to get funding for replenishing the supply of hashtags.


33 posted on 06/12/2014 3:08:46 PM PDT by AU72
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To: tcrlaf
The big blue thingy in the center is called “The Sea of Azov”.

That would mean that 3 tanks landed in Ukrainian controlled territory on a "barge", past Ukrainian military positions, civilians with hand held cell phones, even past Donetsk, and into Slovyansk, traveling half the length of Ukraine, without anybody noticing, with the Ukrainians and everybody lying about them crossing the Russian border and traveling 40KM instead.

The Pro-Muscovites are a pack of idiots.

34 posted on 06/12/2014 3:09:30 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CMB_polarization

Why not?

It’s that kinda day.

0bama’s lips are stuck to Reggie’s ***, and American ain’t gonna do nothin’.


35 posted on 06/12/2014 3:16:12 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Tanks on a barge has a ring to it. Kinda’ like snakes on a plane.


36 posted on 06/12/2014 3:21:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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LOL


37 posted on 06/12/2014 3:22:39 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: clintonh8r
Is the US in a position to stop over-reach by countries anywhere in the world at this point? And at the same time, the administration is deliberately allowing the US to be over-run by "children" from Central America.

It's astounding how quickly everything is deteriorating.

38 posted on 06/12/2014 3:27:56 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Mullah Baraq is feeling pressure to speed up the collapse before 2016. Otherwise he’ll be forced to dream up a reason to declare martial law, which could get messy. As in bloody.


39 posted on 06/12/2014 3:35:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: CMB_polarization

Burn those tanks up from the air.


40 posted on 06/12/2014 3:36:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: CMB_polarization; Jet Jaguar

Obama Administration To Gut The Military Because Of Sequestration

Sequestration now! Sequestration tomorrow! Sequestration forever!

41 posted on 06/12/2014 3:42:21 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Jim Robinson

Didn’t the Ukraine announce within the last week that they’d settled everything with Russia?

Gotta love that Kerry diplomacy.


42 posted on 06/12/2014 3:43:35 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: CMB_polarization
In the words of the immortal Gomer Pyle, USMC:

“Surprise, surprise, surprise!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U

43 posted on 06/12/2014 3:51:15 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: CMB_polarization

And so it begins.

Thanks feckless leader!


44 posted on 06/12/2014 3:54:26 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: CMB_polarization
It wasn't Putin tanks. You'd know if it was.

Ukraine has accused Russia of allowing separatist rebels to bring three tanks and other military vehicles across the border into the east of the country to fight the Ukrainian army.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-13/ukraine-russia-tensions-tanks-rebels/5520282

45 posted on 06/12/2014 3:56:37 PM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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To: CMB_polarization

The wheels are coming off this bus pretty quick now.


46 posted on 06/12/2014 3:57:05 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: SkyPilot; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Ping to 41.


47 posted on 06/12/2014 4:01:56 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: tcrlaf; caww

Apparently this is one of the three tanks. Great for commuting.

https://twitter.com/MiddleEast_BRK/status/477195258150027264/photo/1

Maybe someone can id the model.


48 posted on 06/12/2014 4:09:07 PM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Putin watching the action in Iraq and adding the pressure to us. Watch North Korea and China too. Thanks Obama! We are being invaded too if you look to the southern border, only no tanks are involved. Again, Thanks Obama.


49 posted on 06/12/2014 4:11:45 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: CMB_polarization

Obama is now more flexible.


50 posted on 06/12/2014 4:17:18 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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