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Russia sending tanks across border into Ukraine, Kiev says
LA Times ^ | 12 June 2014 | Sergei L. Loiko, Carol J. Williams

Posted on 06/12/2014 2:04:49 PM PDT by CMB_polarization

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To: CMB_polarization

We’re being attacked by kids on our southern border. The Middle East is exploding. Europe has been over run by muslims. I don’t think Putin is concerned about anything but a powerful Soviet Union.


51 posted on 06/12/2014 4:45:15 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: tcrlaf
"Wouldn’t a T-72 have a large flash suppressor?"

Tanks don't have flash suppressors. The thing seen at the end of some tank barrels is a muzzle brake which reduces the recoil of the main gun. The other thing is a bore evacuator which prevents noxious gases from entering the crew compartment when they open the breech to reload the gun.

Bore evacuator:

Muzzle brake:


52 posted on 06/12/2014 5:10:19 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

How the heck do you get a 40-ton tank off of a barge? You can’t just roll it off, and you would need a big-ass crane.


53 posted on 06/12/2014 5:18:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

They must use some form of anti-gravity device. Only one thing is known for sure: no way, no how, no sir, those tanks could not have come from Russia. Putin told me so, and he is my God (along with Uncle Joe, Lenin and maybe Krupskaya).


54 posted on 06/12/2014 5:25:44 PM PDT by Agog
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Russian thugs aren’t the only people in the tank for Putin.


55 posted on 06/12/2014 5:42:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 1rudeboy

See? It gets dumber the more you dwell on it. I think he made it up on the fly.


56 posted on 06/12/2014 5:54:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: McGruff

Several days ago, 3 or four T-64’s were abandoned outside of Lugansk by their Kiev crews during a firefight. Could these be those?

I would think that they would have been kept local, although there have been pics and tweets in the last several days showing recruiting for the “Donetsk Armored Corps” and “Air Force”.


57 posted on 06/12/2014 6:16:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: 1rudeboy
"How the heck do you get a 40-ton tank off of a barge" The same way you get any heavy truck off of one. You drive it off. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KKMBIEMadcc/SWtxWc6XjVI/AAAAAAAAF9c/NPLtw7gycoQ/s800/Jan%2011%20003a.jpg">
58 posted on 06/12/2014 6:26:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Don’t see anything weighing 40 tons, there.


59 posted on 06/12/2014 6:28:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“Don’t see anything weighing 40 tons, there.”

You’re right. Rail cars weigh up to 90 tons, which is much more than 40 tons.


60 posted on 06/12/2014 6:30:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: CMB_polarization

I am sure a strongly worded letter from the Big Zero is on the way.


61 posted on 06/12/2014 6:38:14 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: tcrlaf

Don’t see any rails there, either. In any case, we are talking about tanks. Please stay focused.


62 posted on 06/12/2014 6:39:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

I think tomorrow is the big solar flare day, so don’t worry none of this will matter then. I have a 10 year supply of matches will trade for, I dunno, what ya got?


63 posted on 06/12/2014 6:43:37 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: tcrlaf

It’s hard to tell Russian tanks apart after the turret inevitably pops off.


64 posted on 06/12/2014 7:31:20 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: 1rudeboy

Bottom picture. Railcar barge. Don’t be daft.


65 posted on 06/12/2014 7:35:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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“It’s hard to tell Russian tanks apart after the turret inevitably pops off.”

lol...
Along these same lines, the rebels raided the Topaz electronics works in Donetsk on Tuesday, and made off with a complete Mandat Electronic Warfare Jamming and surveillance mobile unit, as well as an AA-equipped APC.


66 posted on 06/12/2014 7:43:35 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: CMB_polarization

Don’t tell me Patton has come back again.


67 posted on 06/12/2014 7:46:43 PM PDT by kempster
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To: tcrlaf

We are talking about tanks, genius.


68 posted on 06/12/2014 7:49:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

Tango Seven Two


69 posted on 06/12/2014 8:15:24 PM PDT by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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Looks like a video of the 3 tanks here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L12JK-ZoLLg

Along with a couple of support vehicles. Putin laughs at this Breaking News.

70 posted on 06/12/2014 10:00:36 PM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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Heavy combat, right now, in Mariupol.

National Guard moved into town at dawn, and there has been fighting, including artillery, since. Several live feeds are going, but they are all going up and down.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mariupol?src=hash


71 posted on 06/12/2014 10:12:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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live feed showing what looks like a burned out National Guard APC


72 posted on 06/12/2014 10:16:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Per Twitter, the attacking forces appear to be Oleg Lyashko’s Private Right Sector Militia, called Battalion “Azov”


73 posted on 06/12/2014 10:19:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Jim Robinson

He forgot to add a hashtag.


74 posted on 06/12/2014 10:38:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: CMB_polarization

With this news and the news in Iraq it must be time for 36 holes!


75 posted on 06/13/2014 4:43:04 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: tcrlaf

It doesn’t really matter, they’re all crap. They lack and good fire control, no gyros. Like most things they made, they look all fancy but are highly inferior to west’s gear.

If this is true and they’re sending armor in, when is the media going to let us know? Maybe they’re still trying to figure out the best way to spin this.


76 posted on 06/13/2014 6:57:20 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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Perhaps this solves the mystery?
Three T-64 tanks were captured on 6 June from the army in the Lugansk region.

Google translated:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitikus.ru%2Fevents%2F21114-opolchency-pod-luganskom-zahvatili-tri-tanka-t-64-ukrainskih-vs.html&edit-text=&act=url


77 posted on 06/13/2014 7:49:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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The rebels also seem to have gotten at least two Yak-50’s flying, as well.

It is an aerobatics trainer. As the Israeli’s showed us long ago, it isn’t hard to turn those types of aircraft into ground support planes.


78 posted on 06/13/2014 7:54:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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I had thought that the tanks were T-64's because they have smaller wheels with larger spaces between the wheels compared to the T-72's. And they definitely weren't T-62's which have one less wheel on each side.

More about the three tanks from this article.

(Excerpt)


79 posted on 06/13/2014 9:37:56 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: madprof98

Add NY state...


80 posted on 06/13/2014 3:56:08 PM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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To: Jim Robinson

Looks like MANPADs (or SAMs) are being deployed/used now. This link shows a video of a large Ukrainian aircraft being destroyed.

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2014/06/13/06-13-2300-et-breaking-news-ukrainian-il-76-transport-shot-down-with-30-paratroopers-on-board-video/

Nice work Obama & crew!


81 posted on 06/13/2014 10:00:38 PM PDT by House Atreides (ELL)
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~They look like T-62’s to me, but don’t T-64’s look almost the same?~

In fact T-62 has nothing in common with T-64.
T-62 is actually an upgunned T-55 and T-64 is a radical innovative tank for it’s time.
It was a top gun in the 1960s, a kind of like Abrams since 1980s.
It had a composite armor, precise advanced fire control with laser rangefinder and stabilized cannon, autoloader, remote-controlled machine-gun, multifuel engine - all back to 50 years ago!

More recent T-72 was a step backward. It was like Chevy Nova to Corvette comparing to T-64 but also T-72 cost was under 300,000 rubles and T-64 over 1 million at the time. A couple of T-64 engines alone would cost as much as fully-equipped T-72.

Also T-64 was designed and built in Harkiv, Ukraine. For that reason, Russia has seized operation and scrapped it’s T-64s soon after Soviet collapse while Ukraine still builds that things and has it as their primary MBTs.


82 posted on 06/14/2014 8:00:00 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: CMB_polarization

Obama will not touch Putin, as long as Putin does not attack or bomb any Sunni Muslims in the Ukraine and its vicinity.


83 posted on 06/14/2014 2:33:21 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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