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And the first person to blame Bush for the current crisis in Iraq is…
Hotair ^ | 06/12/2014 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 06/12/2014 2:27:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: PapaNew
Bush's reason were convoluted and confused. The WMD thing was dropped like hot potatoes and changed to the equally screwy, anti-American "Bush Doctrine" justifying our invasion to make other countries "democratic." What a load of H.S.

It was only 'convoluted and confused' if you were getting your news from MSNBC or Ron Paul - the 'WMD thing' you casually dismiss was taken quite seriously by the Democrats in the House and Senate, and most other other national and international intelligence agencies.

21 posted on 06/12/2014 3:06:48 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: PapaNew; ifinnegan

The Iraqi nukes were trucked into Syria before the kickoff of OIF.

There are pics all over the Web that have been declassified.

The Leftist talking point of “No WMD’s In Iraq” was and is a lie.


22 posted on 06/12/2014 3:13:56 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: SeekAndFind
“I never understood the original push for war in Iraq, never understood the logic of regime change,” Chafee said. “These neocons [neo-conservatives] all through the ’90s were talking the importance of regime change in Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, the strongman. I just didn’t understand stirring up the hornets’ nest that is the Middle East. It just never made any sense to me, and now we’re seeing some of the ramifications of having deviated from our Cold War containment strategy.”

Would it have made more sense to continue the sanctions that had already killed at least 500,000 Iraqi children and teenagers?

23 posted on 06/12/2014 3:15:05 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: AzSteven
There was a lot of debate about the existence of WMD's. And there was also a lot of debate about WMD's justifying an invasion.

Why did Bush early on, replace the WMD's for the "Bush Doctrine" as justification for invasion?

24 posted on 06/12/2014 3:15:13 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew; HiJinx; ASA Vet; Progov; Seizethecarp; darkwing104; 2ndDivisionVet; LonePalm; ...
Reportedly, he did not support these Islamic radical terrorists.

Salman Pak.

You don't know what you're talking about.

25 posted on 06/12/2014 3:15:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Old Sarge
There was a lot of debate about the existence of WMD's. And there was also a lot of debate about WMD's justifying an invasion.

Why did Bush early on replace the WMD's for the anti-American "Bush Doctrine" as justification for invasion?

26 posted on 06/12/2014 3:16:56 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: AzSteven
It was only 'convoluted and confused' if you were getting your news from MSNBC or Ron Paul


27 posted on 06/12/2014 3:17:25 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: PapaNew

There was a lot of PROOF about them, too - which you choose to ignore.


28 posted on 06/12/2014 3:18:33 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
No, Saddam was a threat to the entire region, he had to go.

He should have been removed in 91, but Bush Sr. had no guts.

29 posted on 06/12/2014 3:22:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nation Building down the toilet. Too much money and lives lost in this cess pool. This falls into all of those suits and ties that created this mess. Both sides of the ailses are to blame.


30 posted on 06/12/2014 3:22:37 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: PapaNew

Look. Nothing personal, but...

You don’t get anything. You don’t know anything but spiel from the left.

I guess you are a libertarian.

Your comments are irrational, illogical and delusional.


31 posted on 06/12/2014 3:27:24 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Old Sarge

And even if there were no nukes, chem weapons, anything. — there is no way we could take any chance after 911.


32 posted on 06/12/2014 3:28:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

You argue like the Left. Label and assert without actual reasoning on the substantive issue at hand.


33 posted on 06/12/2014 3:31:49 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

America gave Iraq it’s freedom, A$$ Hat!
It’s not the fault of anyone but the Iraq people that do not want to retain the gift we gave!
Now go find a hole to live in like Saddam!


34 posted on 06/12/2014 3:43:21 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: PapaNew

I’m not arguing.


35 posted on 06/12/2014 3:47:03 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
“I do think we did not destroy these modern day Nazis as much as we should have during the Bush years.”

That's true...

IF I were President on 9/11, every muzzie religious site, and every known terrorist training camp in the middle east would have been turned to glass within 45 minutes of the second tower coming down.

The muzzies view it as total war where everyone who isn't a satan worshiper is a legitimate target.

36 posted on 06/12/2014 3:49:00 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If you ain't CAV, you ain't.......)
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To: DocJhn

The Bush Doctrine is expressly anti-American, Dork.


37 posted on 06/12/2014 3:53:38 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Why do you people go off? Just because your name was at the top did you not realize the A$$ Hat was for the Cat making the statement in the article! DORK!


38 posted on 06/12/2014 4:44:35 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: PapaNew

Date 18 Feb 1998
Read the transcript. Practically word for word the same in Clinton era as the Bush era.

Sec. Berger emphasized the U.S. desire for a diplomatic settlement. “We
want to resolve this peacefully,” Berger said, “but there are some
things worth fighting for. And those include fighting aggression,
fighting people who threaten their neighbors, and fighting to make
this world a safer and more secure place for my children and for
yours.”

The problem became when the enemy within drummed the Vietnam mantra.
Better have the helicopters ready for personnel pick up in Baghdad.


39 posted on 06/12/2014 6:24:24 PM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: A CA Guy
Our President? That arrogant pos is not my president, Buster. He might be yours, but he certainly isn't mine. Never was was never will be.

Now that I got this out of the way, I blame the whole fiasco one the rat party and that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave

40 posted on 06/13/2014 2:46:09 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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