Skip to comments.This Is NASA’s New Design for a Faster-Than-Light Ship
Posted on 06/12/2014 5:59:24 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
Looking like something out of Enders Game, this illustration comes courtesy NASA physicist Harold White, who collaborated with an artist to reveal what a warp drive ship might actually look like. Back in 2012, White revealed that he and a team were designing a faster-than-light ship. This is the first hint at its appearance.
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I said it yesterday, if it relies on technology that does not exist, it is nothing but fantasy.
Still waiting for orion first...
Very cool. A beautiful visions.
Give it time BOT. Much of what we have today is based upon tech that didn’t exist 100 to 200 years ago. We are going to the stars. And I believe sooner than we think.
No problem. Obamas got Biden working on a plan to slow down light.
There were two brothers named Wright who created technology because they also had a fantasy.
Didn’t Einstein theorize that when something approaches light speed it gets larger until it reaches infinite mass?
And, given NASA’s concern about making Muslims feel better, we’d better check to see if they feel good about this.
Something I have wondered about is: Can God violate the laws of physics?
My guess is that he can.
This is how they are spending our money while they are not flying to the space station
“Nothing travels faster than the speed of light except for bad news which obeys laws of it own”
The development program will be thwarted by a black hole.
Its built on theory and provable science. I believe White is the guy who has actually been able to consistently warp space by a few nanometers. Obviously not enough to propel a space ship but it does seem to indicate that considerably less mass would be required. (rather than the mass of Jupiter, something the mass of the voyager craft may be enough)
Well, I’m so fast, I can turn off the light switch by the door and get under the covers before the light goes out.
Yeah, I stole it from Muhammad Ali.
“No problem. Obamas got Biden working on a plan to slow down light.”
He could do that by putting on earmuffs so it can’t get into the vacuum between his ears.
Well he stole it from an old Paul Bunyan tall tale.
Or maybe Pecos Bill. Anyway Ali did not invent the story.
Superman and the Flash were discussing who was faster when Wonder Woman happened by...
Yea but old Han wasn’t faster than a garage door earlier today...
“Something I have wondered about is: Can God violate the laws of physics?”
Sure, but it’s a moot point if we don’t how all the laws of physics work to their ultimate conclusion, whatever that might be. When something miraculous happens, it could be a method that actually works within the rules, just not rules we understand yet. Or it could just be ‘pillar of salt’ and bam it happens.
I think it’s funny when people confuse science fiction with reality.
Well, if Linda Carter was under the covers, I could get under them covers even faster.
What ever she’s dancing, she’s beautiful ....
Bad idea....best watch you 6 cuz Supes is right behind you ;)
Virgins? Did you say we need virgins.?
Let me gather the posse to begin the search...
Einstein’s relativity theory applies only to objects moving through space. This is supposed to stretch and shrink space itself, similar to how the universe can expand beyond the speed of light while the galaxies within it technically do not.
But just to be fair, NASA will give Muslims the technology for free, because they’re too preoccupied with killing each other and everyone else to invent anything on their own.
“Much of what we have today is based upon tech that didnt exist 100 to 200 years ago.”
Yes, but a lot of the technology was scientifically feasible, we just didn’t know how to build it and make it work. For example, the principles of a rocket are the same whether we are talking Chinese fireworks from a thousand years ago, or the Saturns that we built to go to space.
When you are talking warp drives, we have no idea if the technology would even be feasible. We can’t explain how exactly gravity works, much less know if it we could even find a way to warp spacetime in the way gravity does, without accumulating some huge amount of mass. Until we have a better theoretical understanding of this stuff, any of this proposed technology is not even science fiction, it is straight up fantasy.
Event Horizon anyone?
Instead of paying these guys for this, why doesn’t NASA just fire them and hire somebody to do some real engineering and design.
True enough. But look at the horsepower of computing and the rate of advance. And D-Wave is becoming legit tech now as well. when it matures, Katy bar the door.
“Didnt Einstein theorize that when something approaches light speed it gets larger until it reaches infinite mass?”
Well, it’s probably more sensible to look at it the other way round. The relativistic mass increases as it approaches light speed, as it takes more and more force applied to accelerate the object, as if it were getting heavier. The actual (rest) mass of the object isn’t changing, only the apparent mass to an observer changes. So, the result is that, to accelerate the object to actually reach light speed would require an infinite force. Since there are no infinite forces, nothing massive can be accelerated to light speed, so nothing ever actually reaches an infinite relativistic mass.
The theory behind the warp drive gets around this by not actually accelerating the ship that much in order to travel. The idea is to generate a “warp field”, which is basically just a theoretical kind of gravity field, in order to warp spacetime and thereby shrink the distance between the ship and the destination. Imagine, instead of a mouse crawling across the table to get some cheese, the mouse pulls the tablecloth to himself, until the distance between the cheese and himself is zero.
it seems like infinite mass would be required to bend space/time and, thereby, allow travel across light years worth of distance in light second worth of time.
Some ‘light reading’ and well worth the buy
Well, that’s true, but you still have the fundamental problem that we have to make some theoretical breakthroughs to make any of this work, and we don’t know if those breakthroughs can be made until we make them. I don’t think a computer, or even a quantum computer will help us much there. The human brain is still what we have to rely to make the necessary creative leaps. So, until we get the next Einstein we’ll probably just keep wondering if it is possible.
Indeed. He believes the mass of an automobile per light year traveled is feasible.
I look at it in a Runsfeldian way. the whole “things we know we dont know” ect.
The computing will only allow us to test the theories ect. BUT, we can get through the theories quicker, whatever they may be. And that increased rate of discovery/rejection will save much time...ergo faster development leading to another development ect.
Of what? I dont know. But whatever we learn, we learn massively faster.
I was looking for an animated gif of a star ship and that popped up on image search.
I just sorta hadda post it.
White is actually far more humble about the results of his experiments than many other scientists who speak about it.
I saw a segment about his experiments on Futurescape narrated by James Woods this winter. Seems that he was able to achieve more of a warp by pulsing the energy at a certain frequency.
Two hundred and fifty years ago so much of what we have now wasn’t scientifically feasible for the time. It wasn’t even imagined. Consider atomic energy, radiation, radio, lasers, airplanes, electricity, quantum mechanics. The list is virtually endless. One may argue that the scientific principles were there to be found and that is true. I would argue that the scientific principles for faster than light travel and many other great achievements are waiting to be found. And found they will be. When they are they will become scientific principles rather than dreams or fantasy. The ship shown in the article is just an artists conception. Pretty but just a dream. The reality will be shall we say more down to earth? At least that is my bet.
In the 5th grade, I used to draw pictures of space ships. Maybe I should post some of those.