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Anti-Islam Bus Ad Angers Muslims, Christians and Jewish Leaders
Gulf News ^ | June 12, 2014 | Jumana Al Tamimi

Posted on 06/12/2014 6:37:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Rabbi in US tells group behind hateful adverts 'Keep the Quran out of it'

It has been posted on many buses in Washington, D.C., for few weeks provoking Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

The ad reads, “Islamic Jew-hatred; It’s in the Quran. Two thirds of all US aid goes to Islamic countries. Stop racism. End all aid to Islamic countries.”

Muslims in the US, supported by several Christians and Jewish leaders, united in their efforts to respond to the ads claiming that it is false that the Quran, holy book for Muslims, encourages Muslims to hate Jews.

They responded by posting another advertisement refuting the original ads placed by a group led by anti-Islam activist Pamela Geller.

“We normally ignore provocation of this nature because she (Geller) has been, along with other organisations, involved in propaganda against Muslims and Islam in the US,” said Nihad Awad, National Executive Director of CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations).

But, “when their campaign tried to influence the public opinion with false information, then we have to counter that with accurate information about Islam and Muslims,” Awad added in an interview with Gulf News.

“Therefore, our message that is going on buses (from Wednesday morning) in D.C., is an inclusive, interfaith message. It helps the public learn about the Quran from the Quran itself,” Awad said.

While this particular campaign costs $41,000 (Dh113,888), CAIR has a larger campaign of $157,000, comprising several series to counter the propaganda about Islam in the US.

Also, CAIR plans to re-launch another campaign to distribute copies of Quran translated to English to anybody interested from the public.

Earlier, nearly 80,000 copies were distributed, “so the public has access to authentic formation about Islam,” Awad said.

Asked whether they plan to take another step, Awad replied “in the US, the first amendment (of the constitution) guaranteeing every one the freedom to speak, even to speak hatred. That is one reality we live,” Awad said.

“This is a distortion to facts and exploitation to history,” commented Mohammad Ghuneim, a veteran former Arab-American broadcast journalist on the ad, in an interview with Gulf News.

The ad’s declaration that two-thirds of the US aid go to Islamic countries is not true. Israel is the biggest beneficiary of US aid with nearly $11 billion a year, he said.

As for the picture in the ad of Adolf Hitler sitting next to the late Palestinian religious and revolutionary leader Haj Ameen Al Husseini, Ghuneim commented since “everybody is against Nazism, they are trying to relate Islam to Nazism,”.

Al Husseini, who was the Mufti of Palestine under the British mandate, was one of the main leaders in the Palestinian revolution in the thirties of the last century. Al Husseini was sentenced to death by the British colonial authorities, but managed to escape and travelled to Germany in 1939.

“Al Husseini was not a supporter to Nazism. It (Germany) was the only place he could resort to escaping the British pursuit,” he said.

Awad believes that those behind the provocative ad “are trying to spread false information about Islam and Muslims… These are experts in misinformation so the public will be confused.”

However, many non-Muslims criticised the campaign as hateful and prejudice, including some Jewish religious leaders.

Rabbi Rachel Gartner, board member of the T’ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights posted a response to the provocative bus ad.

“As an American, I insist on the right to free speech, even when I deplore the message. As a rabbi, I insist on the responsibility to speak out against hateful speech, particularly when it comes from one of our own,” she said in her article posted on the Huffington Post website.

“Ms. Geller, here’s what I have to say. If you have a political statement to make: first , check that it’s not actually hate speech in political garb. Secondly. Keep the Quran out of it. Unless you also want to reference suras like this one (there are many): “Indeed, I, God, sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light, and the prophets judged by it, as did the rabbis and scholars.” (Quran 5:44). Thirdly, be righteous in the way you engage religious texts -- others’ and our own -- in all contexts.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: islam

1 posted on 06/12/2014 6:37:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Those poor Muzzies. They have every right to be angry.

I guess they’ll just have to wait until that bus is full of passengers and then blow it up and kill everyone.

That’ll teach people not to insult the Islamists.


2 posted on 06/12/2014 6:39:24 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: nickcarraway

Resorting to facts is seen as particularly odious when the topic is islam


3 posted on 06/12/2014 6:40:10 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: muir_redwoods

Vicious truthing.


4 posted on 06/12/2014 6:41:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: nickcarraway

And, by the way:

“Ms. Geller, here’s what I have to say. If you have a political statement to make: first , check that it’s not actually hate speech in political garb....”

Do you see how they have brainwashed everyone?

Just for the record...

“Hate” speech IS free speech.

The freedom of speech gives us the right to say whatever we want, ESPECIALLY that which may offend people.

Is it “free speech” if we can only say that which no one may find offensive.


5 posted on 06/12/2014 6:42:03 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: nickcarraway
Two thirds of all US aid goes to Islamic countries.

This is the part that offends me.

6 posted on 06/12/2014 6:44:51 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: nickcarraway

Islam isn’t a religion. It’s a murderous, thinly disguised totalitarian political system.


7 posted on 06/12/2014 6:48:30 PM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Facts are pesky little things.

~~~“Islamic Jew-hatred; It’s in the Quran~~~

And the Hadiths.


The Koran / Hadiths on Jews, Christians, Christianity, Jesus Christ, the Gospel,
The Deity of Christ, the Holy Trinity, the Bible (the Book) and Infidels

Note: Because of variances in korans, some verses may be slightly off in different versions. For example, 3:85 is found as 3:84 in certain korans. Also, since the events of 9/11/2001, the University of Michigan has tried to sanitize some of the following passages by changing the word “jihad” to “battle” though the obvious context of the passages remains abundantly clear.


Reference URL’s

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

“The Women” [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[3.85] “And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful.

The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).

“Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility.” - Koran 9: 29

“.... I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.” - Koran 8:12

“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” - Koran 9: 73

“When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.” - Koran 47:4

“The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom....” - Koran 5: 33-34

” Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.” - Koran 9: 29

“....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” - Koran 98: 1-8

“Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: ‘Taste the torment of the Conflagration!’” - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

“And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. “ - Koran 31-37

“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror.” - Koran, 5:33-34)

“In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost.” - Koran, 8:37

According to the New Testament of the Bible, the God of Israel has a Son
- Jesus Christ of Nazareth; but Allah has no son according to the Koran

Therefore the Biblical New Testament Christian God of Israel is not Allah

“They say: Allah has taken a Son (to Himself)! Glory be to Him: he is the Self-sufficient: his is what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth; you have no authority for this; do you say against Allah what you do not know? Say: Those who forge a lie against Allah shall not be successful.” - Koran 10:68-69 [SAYS JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD AND WHOEVER SAYS SO IS A LIAR]

“....the Christians call ‘Christ the Son Of God’. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth.” - Koran 9: 30

The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and his Word which he communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and his apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from his glory that he should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)

The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY ALLAH DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)

Say: “Praise be to Allah Who begets no son and has no partner in (His) dominion: nor (needs) he any to protect him from humiliation: Yea magnify him for his greatness and glory!” - Koran 17: 111

Further that he may warn those (also) who say “Allah hath begotten a son”: - Koran 18: 4

It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When he determines a matter he only says to it “Be” and it is. - Koran 19: 35

They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!” Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! - Koran 19: 88-89

For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that he should beget a son. - Koran 19: 92

No son did Allah beget nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods) behold each god would have taken away what he had created and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah (he is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him! - Koran 23: 91

he begetteth not nor is he begotten; - Koran 112: 3


Jihad the Best Deed - Hadiths say Muslims will kill all Jews at the Last Hour

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:

Allah’s Apostle said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.’ “

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “The (Final) Hour (last human battle on Earth) will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 595:
Narrated ‘Aisha:

(the mother of the faithful believers) I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed.” The Prophet said, “The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj Mabrur. “

Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 594:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet was asked, “Which is the best deed?” He said, “To believe in Allah and His Apostle.” He was then asked, “Which is the next (in goodness)?” He said, “To participate in Jihad in Allah’s Cause.” He was then asked, “Which is the next?” He said, “To perform Hajj-Mabrur. “

Hadith Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!’ “

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are): “There is a Jew behind me.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: “The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.”

Hadith Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”


Mohammed was about 50 years old when he married a 6-year-old girl. 3 years later when
Mohammed was about 53 years old, he consummated his marriage to the 9-year-old girl
Mohammed was about 62 years old when he died, Aisha was then an 18-year-old girl

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 235: Narrated ‘Aisha:
That the Prophet said to her, “You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and some-one said (to me). ‘This is your wife.’ When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, ‘If this is from Allah, it will be done.”

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated ‘Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).


It’s considered OK for a muslim to kill an infidel, even if it’s another muslim

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, “Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah’s Book?” ‘Ali replied, “...we have what is written in this paper as well.” I asked, “What is written in this paper?” He replied, “...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel.”

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn ‘Abbas, who said, “Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, ‘Don’t punish (anybody) with Allah’s Punishment.’ No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ “

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated ‘Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, “In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection.”

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated ‘Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah’s Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.”


8 posted on 06/12/2014 6:48:37 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: nickcarraway

And one last point:

“Ms. Geller, here’s what I have to say. If you have a political statement to make: first , check that it’s not actually hate speech in political garb. Secondly. Keep the Quran out of it. Unless you also want to reference suras like this one (there are many): “Indeed, I, God, sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light, and the prophets judged by it, as did the rabbis and scholars.” (Quran 5:44). Thirdly, be righteous in the way you engage religious texts — others’ and our own — in all contexts.”

How deceitful of the ‘good’ Rabbi.

I’m sure she knows that the Koran employs the system of abrogation.

What this means is that what is written later in time preempts what was written previously.

If an early Sura stated something like Do not kill infidels.

And the next day a new prophet wrote, Kill infidels.

According to the Koran, all Muslims must follow the latter and the earlier is completely irrelevant.

This system was set up by a MAN for two reasons:

1. It allows the document to cover all bases so that, if anyone points to one line and condemns it, a defender can point to another line that contradicts the first to defend the system.
2. It allows the religion to adapt to historical and societal changes.

Does anyone believe that the word of God would commit two such blatant fallacies and still call itself “truth”?


9 posted on 06/12/2014 6:48:47 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: nickcarraway
Of course the Qur'an does not exhort religious holy wars or teach hostility against Christians and Jews - if you do not read it, and also understand the difference btwn Muhhamads preMedenic "revelations and those after he no longer had to play nice.

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. Sura 5:51 (Yusuf Ali)

They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. Sura 4:89 (Shakir)

Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. 2:190-192 (Pickthal)

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. 2:193 (Pickthal)

Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). 8:38 (Yusuf Ali)

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do. 8:39 (Pickthal)

Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. 4:76 (Yusuf Ali)

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter... 5:33 (Yusuf Ali)

And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 9:3-5 (Yusuf Ali)

But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand. '

But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained. 9:11,12 (Yusuf Ali)

O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque...Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:28,29 (Yusuf Ali)

O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. 9:73 (Pickthal)

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him). 9:123 (Pickthal)

Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain. 47:4 (Pickthal)

 While many sincere Muslims disagree,13 "War against Allah" can be understood to be non-submission to Islam and the active practice of other religions, especially Judaism and Christianity (Sura 8:39,40); thus the justification of violence against them by fundamental Islam, especially when it rules the land. Islamic scholar Aga Mahdi Puya is quoted as stating,

"Waging war against Allah and his Prophet means hostility against his chosen representatives, or deviation from his laws by overstepping the boundaries laid down by Him.. or attempts to undermine the cause of Islam and the overall interests of the Muslims."

Many commands are given to fight against unbelievers, with 1 in every 55 verses in the Muslim Qur'an consisting of exhortations to make war on unbelievers. Though such usually seem to be in the context of opposition by unbelievers, such exhortations to physically suppress and retaliate are another example of the constant contradictions of the Qur'an with the actual words of Christ, who commanded just the opposite of retaliation and conquest by the sword of men.

While many sincere Muslims disagree with those who support violence Jihad, and can provide a few brief quotes advocating tolerance from Muhammad's pre-Medenic suras, which were written in Mecca where he became the was a minority. Initially when he was weak (before Medina) he allowed more of peaceful co-existence by ways of treaties, etc., but when he gained power he progressively sought to enlarge his kingdom by force. History thus indicates that Muhammad's theology adapted to his needs, and sura 2.106 states, “None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?” (Yusuf Ali)

In addition, the Qur'an, unlike the Bible, lacks the context, cohesiveness and consistency to yield a clear and substantiated exegesis that would prevent an ideology of world conquest by the sword, and at worst such commands as to fight until the only worship be of Allah (2:193; 8:39) may easily be used to justify world - wide physical Jihad, such as we see more of today. Oppressing or making war against Islam can easily be understood to include ideological opposition.

Despite the cry of western Muslim clerics who dispute that Islam promotes religious violence, in studying the Qur'an and the practices of Islam it is grammatically, historically, and contextually evident that these exhortations to "Jihad" cannot be relegated to simply spiritual applications, but that the meaning of such Qur'anic exhortations to fighting and violence can easily and often be applied to physical Jihad, and even be extended against ideological opposition, as defined by Islam.

The affirmation of the Pact of Umar, as well as advocation of Sharia law by many Muslims, evidences the manner of subjection that non-Muslims who are not killed in Islamic “holy wars” may expect if their countries are conquered by Islam.

This is daily seen in every country or area where orthodox Muslims are in control. Even in a moderate Muslim country like Egypt, churches cannot be repaired or built without the express permission of the head of Egypt (rarely given), and conversion to Christianity is against the law. Meanwhile Bib Laden-type Muslims would war even against other Islamic counties that do not rightly practice Islam.

The cruelest meaning of Islamic submission is too often manifest: the suppression by force of all that is actively contrary to Islam, rather than being able to persuade souls by spiritual means to seek the truth, and believe and obey it. The former means would only be permissible if it was within a theocracy that was clearly substantiated as ordained by God, as it was in the days of Moses. (Dt. 13; 17) In that dispensation the LORD had indeed ordained a theocracy, so that the religious powers also were empowered to rule as the civil power. However, Islam utterly fails the Biblical criteria for such ordination. For whereas the LORD provided abundant, consistent and powerfully evident Divine attestation for Moses and those that followed - insomuch as they overall obeyed God - so that there could be no real doubt that the LORD had ordained Moses and the Theocracy that God established, the same has not been the case with Muhammad and his faithful followers. For whereas the Law was given to Moses in fearfully evident ways (Ex. 20:18, 19), and those who opposed him were dealt supernatural punishments (such as being struck with leprosy, or the ground swallowing them up, etc.: Num. 12:1-14; 16:1-34), Muhammad could only claim that God gave him revelations, and those who opposed were dealt with after the manner of men.

In addition, Moses and Joshua, and faithful others (such as Gideon and Hezekiah) saw the LORD work mighty victories (such as the angel of the Lord slaying 144,000 enemies), and which were simply impossible any other way. In contrast, outside of a few notable military victories in its rapid expansion, and which “can be attributed to the weakness of its enemies,14 Islam historically has not seen the manner of Divine attestation that the God - ordained Theocracy of Moses, etc. saw as they obeyed God. If Islam were the true religion, and an extension of Biblical religion, and it's religious violence was sanctioned by God (which it must be), then we would have seen like evident, Mosaic - type Divine attestation, that would have long ago subdued it's enemies - without having to resort to suicide bombers.

Islam's excuse for this lack of Divine attestation cannot be that the fault is simply with unfaithful leaders, as there have been many faithful ones. Indeed, if the hand of God has been evident even in conventional battles, it has often been against Islam, and in favor is Israel and other nations.

Israel, which lost it's land, as God warned, (Dt. 28) due to continued disobedience, and which land finally became Britain's, and who gave them a portion of it back, is seen by Islam as those who drove them forth from their houses. Yet it was not their land historically, and it was Islamic nations who attack the infant Israeli nation, who, though being vastly out numbered, defeated their attackers, resulting in the loss of Arabic communities (who reportedly were told by their Muslim brethren to flee their homes until the Arabs' were victorious). Most Arabic nations refuse to absorb Palestinian refugees, for mostly political purposes, while seeking the total destruction of Israel. While Israel has given back almost all the land it won in subsequent Islamic - initiated wars, yet Islamic nations remain almost universally opposed to Israel's existence, and many declare Jihad against America due to her rightful friendship with Israel (who has a historic right to the land, even though it's troubles are a continued chastisement because of their hardness of heart against their Messiah Jesus).  

This issue is related to the above, for if Islam is the true religion, then according to it's own doctrine it would not have been under British rule in the first place, nor lost all it's wars against Israel. Nor will any victories against the post - Christian, and increasingly decadent west attest to her claims (it is too late for that), any more than Babylon's defeat of Israel by conventional means long ago proved it's religion superior. The Bible declares that the wicked are God's sword in judgment (Ps. 17:3). But God will in fact judge such for their excess cruelty (Zec. 1:15).

Conclusion

In the light of Muhammad's constant admonitions to physical violence and blood shed in retaliation for wrongs and in furthering Islamic rule, and his actions in doing so, it can be considered inconsistent for a true Muslim to not practice such as need may be, after the manner of their father (Jn. 8:44).

This includes promoting violence and the suppression of those who will not worship according to the dictates of Islam in their countries, but who instead actively practice a faith contrary to that of the Qur'an - primarily Jews and Christians.

Fortunately, most Muslims do not obey such injunctions according to their original intended literal meanings, but instead spiritualize such away – contrary to Muhammad's often provided exhortations and example.

In contrast to Islam, it is impossible for a true Bible-believing Christian to practice physical violence or coercion in bringing souls to yield to the Only Lord and Savior, JESUS CHRIST, in the true light of His Biblical Gospel. To do so represents either ignorance concerning both the clear statements in this regard, or the willful wresting of the same from their respective contexts cf. (2Pt. 3:16). It is exceeding clear that the new covenant disallows waging "war after the flesh" (2Cor.10:3) in promoting or defending the spiritual kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ in this age of grace (Jn.18:36; Eph.6:12).

In conclusion, comparison with their Bible and its history reveals that Islam is not ordained by God as the true religion, nor is it's religious violence sanctioned by Him as if it were His Theocracy. Instead, Islam is an amalgamation of 7th century mysticism, Judaism, and Christianity. Which, like it's 7th century founder, seeks to use the sword of men to subdue it's enemies. Though in some respects it may be more viable than some pagan religions (insomuch as it contains some degree of Biblical morality and principles) yet it misconstrues the nature, character and will of the Living and True God of the Bible, and leads souls to damnation rather than Paradise, as they reject the Jesus of the Bible, and the ultimate sacrifice the LORD made for us, even His death and resurrection on our behalf.

These rather bold but true statements are designed to help one to better perceive the stark reality of evil - even in the form of religion - and to therefore turn from sin to the Lord Jesus. It was He Himself that was the object of the wrath of such religion, but Who laid down His life as the only perfect and acceptable payment for our sins. And being risen to glory, He is "able to save them to the uttermost that come unto GOD by Him" (Heb.7:25). He did not promote the shedding of blood to further His kingdom, but instead His shed His own to pay for all mankind's sins. So that by “repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ” (Acts 20:21) whosoever will come may be saved. Praise ye the Lord!


10 posted on 06/12/2014 6:49:37 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: RingerSIX

In other news, the state of Isis within Iraq declare certain mandatory amputations and women should stay indoors.


11 posted on 06/12/2014 6:51:10 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: nickcarraway

12 posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:46 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: nickcarraway

TOUGH NOOGIES!!!!!!

As a nativist, Mohammedans need not reside here.


13 posted on 06/12/2014 6:53:52 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: F15Eagle

How dare you resort to truth! You are obviously a bigot — against falsehood.


14 posted on 06/12/2014 6:55:22 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: F15Eagle

How dare you resort to truth! You are obviously a bigot — against falsehood.


15 posted on 06/12/2014 6:58:36 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: AmericanVictory
Yes, and a racerist, too. This are my story.


16 posted on 06/12/2014 7:00:53 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

BTTT, TY so much for this information.


17 posted on 06/12/2014 7:11:06 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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To: nickcarraway

kick ass and take names Pamela !

Rabbi Rachel Gartner - a typical member of the SoS


18 posted on 06/12/2014 7:16:11 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: nickcarraway

But it’s okay to have pro-Palestinian ads on buses.


19 posted on 06/12/2014 7:16:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
islam is like Orwell's "Animal Farm."

One, it's full of animals.

Two it changes daily.

Allsome Animals are more Equal than others.

20 posted on 06/12/2014 7:19:41 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (The VA - same government incompetence as the TSA but with less molestation.)
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To: nickcarraway
I understand what the objectors are after: they believe that some sort of new religion can emerge from a synthesis of all three.

I can see it happening with many other religions, but never Islam.

21 posted on 06/12/2014 7:22:18 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: uncitizen

Here you go - top 25 countries receiving US foreign aid.

Courtesy of http://www.dailypaul.com/223171/top-25-recipients-of-us-foreign-aid&sss=1 [quoted below:]

The FIRST figure is $US (in millions) of U.S. TOTAL Economic and Military Money - Fiscal Year 2010.

The SECOND figure is $US millions in Aid received PER PERSON of that country - Fiscal Year 2010 (In US dollars).


Top 25 Recipient Countries of U.S. Foreign Aid Fiscal Year 2010 - Reported in $US millions:

Afghanistan = $11,446.80 - $393.08
Pakistan = $2,853.50 - $15.47
Israel = $2,835.80 - $385.62
Iraq = $2,087.90 - $70.37
Egypt = $1,698.90 $21.11
Haiti = $1,408.10 - $145.94
Ethiopia = $981.80 - $11.16
Sudan = $975.90 - $22.21
Colombia = $863.70 - $19.54
Kenya = $818.70 - $20.05
Jordan = $767.10 - $119.72
Mexico = $718.20 - $6.39
Senegal = $702.10 - $56.97
West Bank/Gaza = 693.10 - Not known
South Africa = $567.80 - $11.56
Tanzania = $554.80 - $3.24
Russia = $505.90 - $3.63
Uganda = $487.40 - $14.59
Nigeria = $459.00 - $2.84
Georgia = $437.80 - $95.17
Mozambique = $404.40 - $18.04
Congo (Kinshasa) = $388.90 - $5.57
Indonesia = $338.00 - $1.39
Zambia = $331.80 - $24.65
Kazakhstan = $321.70 - $18.83

By my count, 13 of the 25 are Moslem. I may be off by one or two.


22 posted on 06/12/2014 7:40:18 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: F15Eagle

Truth is whatever the imams say it is — namely that which lies to and deceives the infidel, you know, the nazraini — not to be confused with the NASCAR


23 posted on 06/12/2014 7:47:05 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Taxman

This is just crazy! I could swear I remember back in the early 80’s, President Reagan went on TV and said he was going to ask Congress to approve $10million in aid for some country (don’t remeber which). Can you just imagine?! 10 million! And asking Congress!?


24 posted on 06/12/2014 7:56:40 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: uncitizen

I guess the LIEberals are going to have to learn their lessons the hard way.

The horror of it is, those of us who can see the error of the LIEberal’s ways will have to suffer, as well.

But not as much, because we see what is coming and are preparing for it.


25 posted on 06/12/2014 8:12:51 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: nickcarraway

isn’t there a passage somewhere in the koran thay says that ....rocks will call out to muslime saying that a Jew is hiding behind me.....


26 posted on 06/12/2014 8:13:20 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Taxman

Yes. The only good thing about this onslaught of treachery that Obama is putting us thru is that even some stupid liberals can’t even miss it. sure most of them will still blame conservatives, but some of them will get enlightened somehow. And so the scales slowly move to our side.


27 posted on 06/12/2014 8:19:13 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: angelsonmyside

Just copy and past the info (and the info only) elsewhere.

The media is too afraid of being blown up or having their heads cut off. Can’t say I blame them on this one. For we know what the terrorists do.


28 posted on 06/12/2014 8:51:42 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: nickcarraway

SO, a call for tolerance of Islam is issued by a member of the Rabbinatrix.

KEWL! She is likely a Deformed, oops make that Reformed Jew.

‘Nuff said about such things.


29 posted on 06/12/2014 9:03:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: RightGeek

End all aid to Islamic nations. Yeah. Sounds good to me.


30 posted on 06/12/2014 10:45:15 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: nickcarraway

The anti-muslim ads may have been more effective if they had quoted straight out of the queeran.


31 posted on 06/13/2014 2:14:32 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks nickcarraway.
The ad reads, “Islamic Jew-hatred; It’s in the Quran. Two thirds of all US aid goes to Islamic countries. Stop racism. End all aid to Islamic countries.”
The source for this op-ed masq as an article is in the Gulf states.
32 posted on 06/13/2014 4:00:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: nickcarraway

They “cannot handle the truth.”


33 posted on 06/13/2014 4:01:58 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: nickcarraway

Would it surprise them that the real truth is now starting to come out in a unlikely of places: Iraq in the last couple of days.


34 posted on 06/13/2014 4:04:54 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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35 posted on 06/15/2014 9:57:17 AM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: SJackson

Dhimmis = Dummies

Muslims are sworn to convert or kill you.

These are NOT Jehovah’s. Witnesses!!


36 posted on 06/15/2014 10:55:13 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: GladesGuru
SO, a call for tolerance of Islam is issued by a member of the Rabbinatrix.

Consider that stolen, with admiration.

37 posted on 06/15/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

” SO, a call for tolerance of Islam is issued by a member of the Rabbinatrix.”

Consider that stolen, with admiration.”

Enjoy.

;-)


38 posted on 06/15/2014 1:32:05 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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