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Iran Attacking Jihadists in Iraq
Daily Beast ^ | June 13 2014 | Daily Beast

Posted on 06/12/2014 11:09:09 PM PDT by WilliamIII

Iran has deployed two battalions of the Quds Forces, an elite overseas branch of its Revolutionary Guard Corps, to fight the jihadists that have overrun several Iraqi cities. Iran, a Shiite state, is throwing its weight behind Baghdad’s Shiite prime minister in the fight against ISIS, a Sunni group. Together, the Iraqi-Iranian forces have taken back control of 85 percent of Tikrit, the birthplace of Saddam Hussein. The forces are helping guard Baghdad, Najaf, and Karbala, which have been targeted by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham, an al Qaeda offshoot that has thrown the country into turmoil. Iran has also promised to bomb rebel forces if they come within 100 kilometers of the Iran-Iraq border.

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1 posted on 06/12/2014 11:09:09 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Lose-lose situation. If the Shiites lose, Iraq is a terrorist state. If they win, Iraq becomes a client state of a terrorist state.


2 posted on 06/12/2014 11:10:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: WilliamIII

And, no doubt, soon the Saudis as the largest Sunni power in the region will be forced to step in on the side of ISIS to counterbalance the expanded Shiite role in this conflict. And that’ll shortly thereafter pit the Gulf kingdoms and ISIS against the Shiite power structure, with “Iraq” as the battleground.

Oh well, at least it’ll be interesting to see the borders redrawn in a region that people actually care about. It’ll be the first that I’m aware of since the breakup of those various Eastern European countries, and China taking over Tibet.


3 posted on 06/12/2014 11:13:30 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

something unexpected needs to happen to the al Saud dynasty leadership


4 posted on 06/12/2014 11:15:51 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: WilliamIII

Bump


5 posted on 06/12/2014 11:17:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Viennacon

Sunnis are the natural rulers of Iraq even though there are more Shiites due to higher birthrates. Sunnis have always had their act more together and were more modern. Also seem smarter in that area. I’ll bet that if you looked at what Iraqis got university educations in Europe and the US you would see mostly Sunnis

The only thing that can alter this natural Sunni domination is Iran.

This Sunni-Jihadist takeover of Mosul and other cities is a reversion to the norm of Sunni rule. It is a rebellion against the Shiite central govt of Maliki


6 posted on 06/12/2014 11:17:44 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: WilliamIII

An Islamic civil war? Need more popcorn.


7 posted on 06/12/2014 11:18:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: WilliamIII

8 posted on 06/12/2014 11:39:43 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would appear that when Muslims run out of Jews and Christians they focus their Satanic blood lust on other Muslims.

This is all like something out of a Tolkien novel.


9 posted on 06/12/2014 11:43:25 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: WilliamIII

Vallerie Jarrett serves her Iranian overlords so well.


10 posted on 06/12/2014 11:53:31 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: WilliamIII

President butthead Obama destroyed any chance the Iraqi’s ever had of freedom from terrorism. So he’s now wasted all the blood and treasure we spent trying to save them. How in the world do people like Obama sleep at night?


11 posted on 06/13/2014 12:05:10 AM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Deus ex machina and all that, but India may be about fed up with this shiite and decide to go medieval on their a$$€$ before stuff spins out of control.

Just sayin'

12 posted on 06/13/2014 12:05:15 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? ?)
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To: WilliamIII

Excellent. Let them fight each other.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 12:27:11 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: WilliamIII

All of a sudden, I WANT to see Iran conduct a nuclear test, on Mosul.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 3:03:36 AM PDT by mission9 (It is by the fruit ye shall know.)
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To: Viennacon

Win-win if they exterminate each other.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 3:04:45 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: dennisw

This Sunni-Jihadist takeover of Mosul and other cities is a reversion to the norm of Sunni rule. It is a rebellion against the Shiite central govt of Maliki

BUMP


16 posted on 06/13/2014 5:49:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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“With Republicans still in control of Congress, the October 2006 article named two prominent Republican members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) and found that neither could answer basic questions on the difference between Sunni and Shia Muslims.18 Given the notoriety of the article, Stein’s follow-up interview in December 2006 with the incoming Democratic Chairman of the House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence (and senior member of the Armed Services Committee), Congressman Silvestre Reyes, proved equally distressing when it turned out that the Democrats’ chosen leader believed al-Qaeda to be a predominantly Shia organization.”

Much more historical/educational material…here…(for any FReepers/lurkers interested)

http://www.aina.org/reports/iwesaj.pdf


17 posted on 06/13/2014 6:02:23 AM PDT by PGalt
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Although this sounds like a positive development in the end I don’t believe it will be.

Iran doesn’t do anything that is not in their own interest.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 6:06:33 AM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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To: PGalt

Truth probably is that no matter if Maliki gave the Sunnis a bigger role in the government, the same outcome would have happened. It is totally wishful thinking to think they would actually share rule. The whole time they would be backstabbing, maybe literally, each other.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 6:11:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Little Pig
And, no doubt, soon the Saudis as the largest Sunni power in the region will be forced to step in on the side of ISIS to counterbalance the expanded Shiite role in this conflict. And that’ll shortly thereafter pit the Gulf kingdoms and ISIS against the Shiite power structure, with “Iraq” as the battleground.

If his turns into a region-wide Sunni/Shiite civil war, look for the price of oil to go up.

20 posted on 06/13/2014 6:11:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dforest

In the end...


21 posted on 06/13/2014 6:16:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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“On the return of the Caliphate, 74 percent of Pakistanis, 71 percent of Moroccans and 67 percent of Egyptians agree with al-Qaeda.36 Even Indonesia, at 49 percent, still claims a powerful plurality in favor of a caliphate.37 Because Islamic law matters to Muslims, in the WOT, it should also matter to us.”

(link above)


22 posted on 06/13/2014 6:31:31 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: WilliamIII
And what's at stake for the USA? Why the petrodollar. From Wiki

"Petrodollar refers to either a United States dollar earned by a country through the sale of its petroleum (oil) to another country,[1] or the system by which the United States props up the relative value of its currency on the world market by requiring that oil producing nations trade their product on the world market exclusively in dollars.

I will leave the reader with this question

What would be the value of the dollar if oil producers did not insist oil was purchased with US dollars?

23 posted on 06/13/2014 6:34:02 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: WilliamIII

Can you imagine if the Methodists and Baptists started a civil war like this?

They are savages. We should simply build a wall around them and let them all kill each other. Once a year we could open it up and let those who are sick of it just leave.


24 posted on 06/13/2014 6:34:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: dforest
The whole time they would be backstabbing, maybe literally, each other.

Yep. Centuries of philosophical differences re-awaken when their commonality against the invading infidel no longer occupies their thoughts.

25 posted on 06/13/2014 6:40:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Viennacon

Shades of Vietnam invading Cambodia to get rid of Pol Pot.


26 posted on 06/13/2014 6:41:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PGalt

The eternal Sunni-Shiite conflict is behind so much that goes on in the Middle East/Iran.

So even though the Saudi Arabia Sunni rulers fear the Jihadist-ISIS they backed them in Syria because they were fighting Assad who is an Iranian thus Shiite ally. This same ISIS is now taking back Sunni areas from the weak Malaki Shiite rule emanating out of Baghdad. This northern Sunni area of Mosul has oil wells to finance this new ISIS trans Iraq-Syria government.

ISIS has backhoes and bulldozers demolishing border markers on the Iraq-Syria line as part of them proclaiming they are a transnational Islamic Jihad movement intent on re-establishing the transnational Caliphate


27 posted on 06/13/2014 6:46:11 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Precisely why we need to drill drill drill, so we can extricate ourselves from that god-forsaken part of the world.


28 posted on 06/13/2014 6:47:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: WilliamIII

Lemme get this straight, 1500 Iranians are helping retake Kirkuk while also helping to defend Baghdad, Najaf and Al Kut?

Lol.

The Karbala and Najaf Shia aren’t particularly fond of the Iranians. They still remember the mess the Mahdi made of their cities 10 years ago.


29 posted on 06/13/2014 6:58:36 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Vermont Lt
Can you imagine if the Methodists and Baptists started a civil war like this?

Well, Catholic/Protestant civil wars have an old history. Look at Northern Ireland for a conflict that extended into modern days.

30 posted on 06/13/2014 7:27:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: jpsb

I will leave the reader with this question

What would be the value of the dollar if oil producers did not insist oil was purchased with US dollars?

C’mon back, jpsb. Read this…

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/why-central-bank-stimulus-cannot-bring-economic-recovery-0#comments


31 posted on 06/13/2014 7:53:33 AM PDT by PGalt
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