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The Second Amendment Should Trump State Lines
townhall.com ^ | 6/12/2014 | Unk

Posted on 06/13/2014 5:53:53 AM PDT by rktman

I have two state-issued permits in my wallet.

My state-issued driver’s license allows me to get into a car and drive to visit friends in other states. If I decide to drive to visit my friend Pablo in Arizona, or Jacqueline in New York, my North Carolina-issued license will be honored by every law enforcement agency I may encounter along the way.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
What? You mean you don't have a license for each state? Makes my wallet a bit unmanageable to carry 57 different drivers licences.
1 posted on 06/13/2014 5:53:53 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Had never quite thought about it that way. But, you certainly make a lot of sense.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 5:56:56 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: rktman

This is where we can use the Gay Marriage arguments agains the anti-gun zealots. If a state has to recognize other states civil proceedings (i.e. licenses) through the Full Faith and Credit Clause, then states should also recognize other states’ gun licenses.

It’s all or none!


3 posted on 06/13/2014 6:08:00 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: rktman
From the Constitution Maine will be voting on June 12, 2018 at the secession vote. On June 12, 2018 voters on Maine will decide two things, whether to secede or not and if to secede to accept the Constitution now being worked on as the national Constitution, it will be all one vote.



Section 6. The Militia and the standing army of 1,000. So as to insure and guarantee the rights guaranteed in this Constitution, every natural born male in the Republic of Maine, upon reaching the age of 18 years from conception through age 67 years from conception, has, as a member of the Militia, the obligation to keep and bear arms for the common defense, for his and his families protection, to defend against this government or any government in the future from becoming oppressive, tyrannical, or in any other way obnoxious to freedom, and to secure the rights written in this Constitution. This obligation shall never be questioned. No law shall be passed that restricts this obligation, except for time in a local jail, county jail or Maine Republic prison. No law shall be passed, test given, or fee assessed to any citizen of the Republic of Maine, age 18 from the age of conception, both male and female, that would restrict in any way that citizens right to be armed either concealed or open. Males who are found to be or confess to being homosexuals are refused entry and from serving in either the Militia or the standing army. Males over the age of 67 may be voluntary members of the Militia with the full rights of Militia members. Natural born males between the age of 16 years from conception to 18 years from conception may volunteer for Militia service with the written permission of parents or guardians. The standing army of 1,000 shall be drawn from the Militia by the commander of the Militia and is under the command of the commander of the Militia who is appointed by and reports directly to the President.

All can be seen at www.MaineTV.net

4 posted on 06/13/2014 6:11:15 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: rktman

I wish people would stop comparing driver’s licenses to the Second Amendment. They’re not equal. God help us all.


5 posted on 06/13/2014 6:12:49 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: KingLudd

You’re right - they are NOT equal.

One of the two is a god-given, constitutionally protected right.

The other is treated as valid across state lines.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 6:16:46 AM PDT by MortMan ("Homeland" may be a documentary.)
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To: rktman

The Constitution’s Full Faith and Credit clause should allow any concealed license holder to use that permit in all 50 states, following that state’s laws and restrictions.

However, Congress has not determined that concealed weapon licenses are worthy of Full Faith and Credit yet. Congress has done so for Driver’s Licenses, Marriage Licenses (between a man and a woman per the Defense of Marriage Act,) Birth Certificates, etc.

There have been bills proposed to add cpl licenses to the list, but have not passed yet.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 6:19:57 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Bushbacker1

LOL! According to my wife, I rarely make any sense.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 6:21:23 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Yo-Yo

And you have to beware of that because if they legislate on the issue, it would end up being a de facto federal license. With “harmonized” rules across all the states.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 6:24:18 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: KingLudd

Actually, you are correct. There should be NO requirement for anyone to have government “approval” to carry an SDT. (self defense tool)


10 posted on 06/13/2014 6:24:54 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: KingLudd
I wish people would stop comparing driver’s licenses to the Second Amendment. They’re not equal. God help us all.

Correct. The Second Amendment shouldn't require a permit, and carry (open and concealed) should be legal in all 50 states without such requirement. The 2nd Amendment is pretty clear on the whole thing.

11 posted on 06/13/2014 6:37:04 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: cotton1706
...states should also recognize other states’ gun licenses.

It’s all or none!

It should be none. Any licensing requirement is an unconstitutional infringement upon our right to keep and bear arms.

12 posted on 06/13/2014 6:42:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: rktman

It’s odd that a licence for a privilege is honored everywhere but a permit for a right stops at the state line


13 posted on 06/13/2014 6:43:41 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: muir_redwoods

Bizzaro world.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 6:45:05 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

Hey, I visited Jacqueline in New York last week. Had agreat time.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 7:05:02 AM PDT by super7man
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Why from conception rather than birth?

I’m not sure even my parents would know my exact date of conception.


16 posted on 06/13/2014 7:07:32 AM PDT by super7man
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To: super7man

The exact date is not as important as the fact that, by suing the date of conception, it protects human life in the womb, and allows any citizen to use what ever force he or she deems necessary to prevent harm to that baby in the womb.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 7:09:45 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: rktman

No... I believe in states rights.
Issues like this.... all issues.... should be voted on by the people of the state. The people’s will should prevail.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 7:13:07 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: rktman

The author is right. The 2nd Amendment should trump state lines. States do that with marriages as well. States are forced to recognize marriages from other states. Also they are forced to recognize driver’s licenses. Why should an unambiguous right in the the Constitution that is explicitly called out to “be not infringed upon” be any different?


19 posted on 06/13/2014 7:59:22 AM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: WMarshal

Don’t forget about license plates also.


20 posted on 06/13/2014 8:00:41 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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