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The Sad Fate of Casey Kasem: Death by Dehydration
Life News ^ | 6/12/14 | Bobby Schindler

Posted on 06/13/2014 6:08:09 AM PDT by wagglebee

A Los Angeles Superior Court Judge reversed his own ruling, permitting Casey Kasem’s daughter, Kerri Kasem, to remove her father’s food and hydration (via feeding tube), which will result in his death by starvation and dehydration. Kasem’s wife of 33 years, Jean Kasem, is fighting for the life of her husband, with her attorney, Steve Haney, calling the judge’s decision, “the functional equivalent of a death sentence.”

Growing up in the 70’s, I was introduced to Casey Kasem’s easy to recognize voice as each week he counted down “American Top 40″ hits for almost four decades on a radio show heard around the world. Kasem was also the voice of the character Shaggy on “Scooby-Doo” cartoons for 40 years.

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According to reports, Kasem is stricken with dementia and Parkinson’s; typically, treatable conditions. Once Kasem begins the process of dying by having his food and water removed, he will endure a death that no family member should ever have to witness. It is cruel and barbaric and could take days, and often weeks to play itself out, torturing not only the patient, but those who love him as well.In stark contrast, St. John Paul II who also had Parkinson’s, was afforded a feeding tube as part of his end of life care, and subsequently died naturally.

I watched my own sister, Terri Schiavo, anguish through almost two weeks without food or water and there are no words that can properly describe the inhumanity. In her last days, we would not permit our mother to visit Terri, in an effort to spare her additional torment, as blood pooled in Terri’s eyes, and her skin and lips were terribly cracked because her tissues were lacking any moisture. Terri’s body turned different colors of blue and yellow and her breathing became so rapid, it was as if she was outside sprinting. I could go on.

Indeed, the disagreement between Kasem’s family also raises the issue of the dangers of health care initiatives. It places the interpretations into the hands of “quality of life” minded family members, healthcare professionals, hospital boards and ethics committees, not to mention some Judges who have no regard for the dignity of human life.

Make no mistake about it, countless conscious and unconscious persons die by deliberate starvation and dehydration every year. Typically, we only hear of the cases in which there is a family disagreement or in cases where there is a celebrity involved. And with an accepting culture, laws that permit this behavior, and a government controlling our health care system under the guise of “compliance”, this scenario will become more common and the pre-mature death of our medically vulnerable loved ones will increase significantly.

We live in a very troubled and an increasingly dangerous America. Our culture has lost sight of God’s supreme right over when life begins and when it ends, and has “turned on its head” the true meaning and value of suffering and compassion.Those of us who wish to defend life in all stages, especially for the most vulnerable, are demonized when we ask the obvious question: where is the humanity in deliberately denying someone’s most basic rights – food and water? Tragically, what was once considered barbaric has now become part of everyday life.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobbyschindler; caseykasem; deathbydehydration; deathpanels; elderly; euthanasia; healthcarerationing; lifenews; moralabsolutes; prolife
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Those of us who wish to defend life in all stages, especially for the most vulnerable, are demonized when we ask the obvious question: where is the humanity in deliberately denying someone’s most basic rights – food and water? Tragically, what was once considered barbaric has now become part of everyday life.

Many of us realized when Terri was murdered that the media circus was nothing more than a "dress rehearsal" to determine how to best push euthanasia and death panels.

1 posted on 06/13/2014 6:08:09 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/13/2014 6:08:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/13/2014 6:09:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; 8mmMauser; T'wit; wagglebee; Alamo-Girl; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ..
Bobby Schindler has written an excellent editorial about the ongoing murder of Casey Kasem.


4 posted on 06/13/2014 6:11:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“Bobby Schindler has written an excellent editorial about the ongoing murder of Casey Kasem.”

link?


5 posted on 06/13/2014 6:12:06 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England
This is it.
6 posted on 06/13/2014 6:12:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

When my grandmother was still able to reason she made out a living will specifying that she not be kept alive fed by tubes for more than a week or two and that my mother get power of attorney when she could no longer make decisions.

In her early 90s she went to the hospital for a second stroke and after that it was obvious that she could and would no longer make decisions for herself.

She died in her home about 9 years later.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 6:14:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: wagglebee

Even though this guy was a devout lefty, my heart goes out to him as the pro-death crowd swarms over his body.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 6:16:57 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: wagglebee
RE “Kasem was also the voice of the character Shaggy on “Scooby-Doo” cartoons for 40 years.”

Didn't know that.

9 posted on 06/13/2014 6:17:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: wagglebee

There are a huge number of deliberately obtuse or deliberately lying posters here who present this issue in a purposely false light.

They will only keep saying, a dying body can’t process nutrients, take liquid etc...

When that is not controversial.

What happens often is that nutrients are withheld from patients with age related neurological degeneration much before their bodies are dying to achieve a euthanasia.

The Kasem case is a horrible example of courts usurping Doctor’s authority to practice medicine.

The comments of the pro-euthanasia posters are quite insulting of Kasem’s Doctors.

It is a preview of what to expect under government health care as well I would think.


10 posted on 06/13/2014 6:17:38 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: wagglebee

Lethal injection, firing squad, or hanging would actually be MORE humane than this. I wonder if Casem’s daughter would be willing to be the executioner, since she’s so keen on his dying as soon as possible.


11 posted on 06/13/2014 6:19:23 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: wagglebee

I supported the daughter over the wife at first, but since the first thing the daughter did when she had legal authority was sentence her father to die, I now see why Jean fought so hard to keep her husband away from his kids.


12 posted on 06/13/2014 6:21:53 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: wagglebee

According to an article posted here on FR a few days back he was being drowned by the feeding.

Now they stopped the drowning.

So what’s it going to be, death by drowning, or by dehydration?

Politically, drowning is preferred by me, that way we don’t have to have these threads about starvation.

Drown him and he goes quietly.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 6:25:04 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: wagglebee

If he spelled out his desire to have no tube feedings then that should be honored. Don’t know if he did that though. If he didn’t then it’s a court fight to decide who makes the decision.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 6:26:08 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: reaganaut
I supported the daughter over the wife at first, but since the first thing the daughter did when she had legal authority was sentence her father to die, I now see why Jean fought so hard to keep her husband away from his kids.

I had the same reaction.

Now I've got to believe the wife when she says the children want to kill him to get the house and their share of his estate. This is tragic.

15 posted on 06/13/2014 6:27:02 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wagglebee
Many of us realized when Terri was murdered that the media circus was nothing more than a "dress rehearsal" to determine how to best push euthanasia and death panels.

Yes, and I'm sorry to say we were right. This has become routine.

16 posted on 06/13/2014 6:27:19 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: reaganaut

Agreed, it all makes sense now. IO thought the wife was being a total Beyotch, turns out she was trying to save his life.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 6:27:21 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertatian)
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To: wagglebee
A pop musical encyclopedia book is closed.

We love you Casey ... sleep in peace.

18 posted on 06/13/2014 6:28:57 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: reaganaut

Yeah.

First it was about bed sores, poor treatment.

No complaints about the nutrient tube to the stomach that fed him for a long time. No claims it was futile.

As soon as she got the court to usurp Kasem’s doctor’s rights, the issue changed to, he is dying. Feeding tube won’t help.

It was bait and switch.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 6:29:06 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
As soon as she got the court to usurp Kasem’s doctor’s rights, the issue changed to, he is dying. Feeding tube won’t help.

That's the way the death mongers ALWAYS play it.

20 posted on 06/13/2014 6:35:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Blue Jays

This is precisely why I hope my demise happens instantly and I don’t see it coming. Good luck, Casey Kasem.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 6:38:05 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: wagglebee

If he had made a directive stating that hydration and nutrition be withheld, then so be it.

Having a little experience in watching this happen, with the proper management of the terminally ill it is not barbaric or painful.

If these were his wishes, then let the man pass with some dignity. This is NOT being done against his will.


22 posted on 06/13/2014 6:39:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: arkfreepdom

Agree. My mother has been very sick over the last few years. She’s a registered nurse and spent over 20 years taking care of senior patients, many with terminal illnesses. She has made it perfectly clear, verbally and written, that she wants no extreme measures to keep her alive. No feeding tubes, no intubations, written DNR etc. She’s watched too many unconscious elderly patients waste away over weeks and months full of tubes. We will respect her plainly stated wishes.


23 posted on 06/13/2014 6:43:16 AM PDT by strider44
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If he had made a directive stating that hydration and nutrition be withheld, then so be it.

Is there ANY EVIDENCE that he did?

Having a little experience in watching this happen, with the proper management of the terminally ill it is not barbaric or painful.

Let me guess, it's "euphoric"?

If these were his wishes, then let the man pass with some dignity. This is NOT being done against his will.

Again, where is the evidence of this?

Or are you stating that someone with dementia somehow has the capacity to decide they want to be murdered?

24 posted on 06/13/2014 6:47:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

You are ignorant. Who said it was euphoric.

If this man was alive in the 1840’s he would have been dead years ago. So, who is distorting the natural process? Feeding a man who cannot feed himself? Or letting gods natural rule take it’s course.

And the word “if” denotes a question, doesn’t it? Did you pass grammar school?

Instead of thumping your bible and passing judgements you know nothing about, I suggest you spend some time in nursing homes and you will see suffering.


25 posted on 06/13/2014 6:51:36 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It is actually simple.

Get the patient stabilized, then resume nutrients.

If the patient never stabilizes, that means they are dying and will die. Not of starvation.

Often they can stabilize and then can take nutrients again and live a lot longer.


26 posted on 06/13/2014 6:54:22 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: arkfreepdom

Which is why living wills are so important.
I knew what my mom’s wishes were and honored them during her last few days.


27 posted on 06/13/2014 6:56:24 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Vermont Lt

“If this man was alive in the 1840’s he would have been dead years ago. “

Yeah. Might have died of small pox too.

Or an infection.

You have convinced me. No more antibiotics. No more vaccines. No more sterilized techniques. No more modern medicine

You are so wise.


28 posted on 06/13/2014 6:57:13 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: wmfights

The kids were disinherited


29 posted on 06/13/2014 6:59:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Maine Mariner

My folks both have advance directives. My mom wants food and water withheld at some point. My dad does not. He says it’s between him and God. These days don’t take anything for granted. If you want to be fed and watered put it in an advance directive.


30 posted on 06/13/2014 7:02:16 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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You are ignorant. Who said it was euphoric.

The death mongers have long been using euphoria to push dehydration.

If this man was alive in the 1840’s he would have been dead years ago. So, who is distorting the natural process? Feeding a man who cannot feed himself? Or letting gods [sic] natural rule take it’s course.

Yet another favorite argument.

Feeding tubes have been in use for over 500 years, their EFFECTIVENESS has been greatly improved in recent decades because of advances in materials that are less prone to causing infections.

But, getting back to your question, do you also oppose the use of antibiotics to fight infections? What about surgery, do you shun that as well? What about Epi-pens for bee stings, do they "distort the natural process"?

And the word “if” denotes a question, doesn’t it? Did you pass grammar school?

All I asked is whether you had any actual evidence that he wanted to be murdered in this fashion.

Instead of thumping your bible [sic] and passing judgements you know nothing about, I suggest you spend some time in nursing homes and you will see suffering.

I've watched plenty of people die NATURAL DEATHS. Suffering is a part of life, BEING MURDERED SHOULD NOT BE.

Might I ask, what is YOUR solution to ending a person's suffering AND what is your criteria for imposing it?

31 posted on 06/13/2014 7:04:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: reaganaut
I supported the daughter over the wife at first, but since the first thing the daughter did when she had legal authority was sentence her father to die, I now see why Jean fought so hard to keep her husband away from his kids.

all i know about the daughter is she was a Playboy model... she is really pretty... i do not get why she gets to determine what happens with her father instead of his wife.. didn't he have a living trust or a HCPOA, a Durable POA? if he did, and he left the decisions to Jean, then i do not get it...

32 posted on 06/13/2014 7:07:24 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: sickoflibs
Didn't know that.

No offense, but I thought that was common knowledge.

He was also Robin on the Superfriends, as well as the Justice League computer.

33 posted on 06/13/2014 7:13:26 AM PDT by YourAdHere (I flip off all Obama bumper stickers.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; All

The other thing that all these busy bodies and know it alls seem to miss is that Kasem had written paperwork telling what his wishes were and the wife was ignoring those wishes. The daughter had power of attorney for health care...hence the judge’s ruling.

Moral of all such stories: Be sure you have SPECIFIC and precise details of what you want and what you don’t want done for (or to) you. Be sure you have selected a person who will carry out your wishes and directions.

My siblings did not like the choices I made for our mother’s final days. Too bad. Mom and I had long talks about all of it long before she was anywhere near passing from this veil of tears. She designated me to make decisions precisely because she KNEW that I would follow her wishes.

These are talks and discussions that ALL families should have sooner rather than later


34 posted on 06/13/2014 7:16:38 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: ifinnegan

You are an idiot.

I have been through this three times. How many times have you managed this process? It’s no euphoric, dying in any manner like this is horrific. Do you want your loved one to suffer in agonizing pain for months or days.

When you can tell me you have held their hand and looked into their eyes I will give you some credit.

Your manner is good for your conscience. Not the person dying. And he is dying. It’s a meter of pain and time.

So what is it? You’ve not been there because if you had an hour of time where I have been, you would be on the other side of this discussion. Your position is one of selfishness and sadism.


35 posted on 06/13/2014 7:21:31 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: latina4dubya

Legally, if they can prove that Jean was not following his wishes they could get her POA revoked. This would be the case with a living will or final directives which would be in the attorney’s possession.

I am stating there ARE times when the DPOA can be overruled. I do not know if that is the case here.


36 posted on 06/13/2014 7:24:33 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: wagglebee
"... what was once considered barbaric has now become part of everyday life."

The democrip party along with the enabling of the republicants, have been successful in aborting the societal taboo structure of a once great Republic. Now we see what they are replacing it with. And there are literally tens of millions of adults in America who haven't a clue why the country is in turmoil and murder is rising among the sheeple.

Even the mention of God in federally funded schools (and that is all of public education now) is forbidden as criminal behavior, sexual degenerates dictate to society their conformity demands which expose the children of America to a constant barrage of degenerate behavior, and openly lying to the world is not only protected by the whoredom of media reporters but now considered states craft and vote worthy. Children have become the harvest to be reaped by sexual degenerates who are the most powerful in humanity ... and the media continues to cover up the truth of this evil at every level because they are owned by these same globalist oligarchs.

What was once considered barbaric is now common place indeed! Evil saunters across America free to do as it pleases for political correctness and tolerance to be served. A society that tolerates evil becomes evil in its heart.

37 posted on 06/13/2014 7:28:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 06/13/2014 7:29:07 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee

Show me where is stated it was euphoric. That is poppycock.

My position is to follow the wishes of the patient.

When I have been engaged as the person with the legal authority, I based my decision to withhold feeding and hydration based on the intubation: there was no mental capacity. Organs were shutting down. There was absolutely no hope for recovery at all. Death was certain with or without continued support. In one case breathing was sporadic and we were one step away from ventilation. In another case morphine drips had started to quell the pain to the degree that more would have caused death.

I know what I am talking about.

I am not talking about someone that had ANY chance of recovery.

When you look into the eyes and the person begs you to make it stop, I dare you to allow the suffering to continue. You will have to answer to that person and the Almighty—who will ask you why you actively allowed this pain to continue.

I won’t discuss this any more with idiots who do not understand simple biology and the dying process. Just because you CAN do stuff, doesn’t mean you are obligated to do it beyond what is morally correct.


39 posted on 06/13/2014 7:33:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: wagglebee

My grandmother had signed a directive that if she could no longer swallow, she was not to have any tubes or IVs. She probably died of a urinary tract infection that could have been treated with IV antibiotics. It was hard for me with my pro-life beliefs, to accept this decision, but even before the infection, she was unable to speak, feed herself or walk, and seemed unaware of her surroundings. Near the end it was given her to recognize her grandchildren, and she looked at us, one by one, with love.

It does seem to me that when food and fluids by artificial means are stopped, the patient should always be offered food and fluids by mouth, very carefully, as aspiration is a major issue. I do believe that often the very elderly and ill choose to stop eating, and that after looking for treatable issues (depression, painful throat, infection) that their wishes should be respected and artificial means should not be forced on them. If you have ever seen an old, frail, demented woman refuse to eat and repeatedly rip out IVs and her Foley catheter, and her family decide to have a gastric tube inserted and her hands restrained, you would weep.

I have also seen an old man come in with sepsis and low blood pressure. He was given large volumes of fluid and within the hour his lungs were filling with fluid, he was suffocating and desperate, and then he went into arrest. He had been going out so gently until then.


40 posted on 06/13/2014 7:37:18 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Vermont Lt
Instead of thumping your bible and passing judgements you know nothing about, I suggest you spend some time in nursing homes and you will see suffering.

of course there is suffering... this is life... i witnessed my uncle die of emphysema, a man who was like a second father to me die of melanoma, my auntie die of ovarian cancer... during those times of suffering, God did some wonderful things for everybody... either way there will be suffering, whether letting an illness run its course, or taking things into our own hands and withholding water... in my opinion, the later is barbaric, but i do have a faith in God that likely taints my perception...

i will say that i found beauty in the passing of my loved ones i mentioned above because they were surrounded by those they loved and those who loved them... i imagine there is a tremendous amount of loneliness in nursing homes... some amount of physical suffering is inevitable as we age and die a slower death... aloneness and/or loneliness is not... mis dos centavos...

41 posted on 06/13/2014 7:43:31 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: heartwood

I think people assume that healthy people who “decide” to stop eating are what we are discussing here.

In my experience that was never even brought up until the very, very end.

I too had an uncle with a bad UTI? His blood pressure was 47 over 0. Last rights and very dramatic efforts to clear it up. Two days later he was alive and kicking.

The only part of a DNR that was even brought up was a discussion of CPR. At that point, fighting an infection was active and aggressive.

Withdrawal of life support is NEVER the first discussion as many here would lead you to believe.


42 posted on 06/13/2014 7:47:55 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Nifster

***Be sure you have SPECIFIC and precise details of what you want and what you don’t want done for (or to) you. Be sure you have selected a person who will carry out your wishes and directions.***

If you think you can cover every, and I mean every, scenario with a written document, go for it. However, I would bet that no one can predict with accuracy what will befall them as age progresses.

There are only a few scenarios that are brought up with advance directives. They issue a one size fits all situations, but each person will encounter variances that the directives will not have clarified. So I think people will be very disappointed to discover that they have one thing in mind when they sign, but something else in mind when reality happens.


43 posted on 06/13/2014 7:48:00 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Vermont Lt
I am stating there ARE times when the DPOA can be overruled. I do not know if that is the case here.

i will ask my employers about this when they come back from their fishing vacation... they are attorneys and do wills, poas, guardianships and such all the time...

44 posted on 06/13/2014 7:49:15 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

I was a young man the first time I went through this. My belief and trust in God was minimal—as it is in most young people. You know, a lot of talk but not much proof for an arrogant youth.

Watching my father die was the most wretched, yet spiritually eye opening event of my life. From that point on, I promised myself that no person I loved would die alone. And they haven’t.

My trust in God has become strong. He has never let me down...even when I did not think I could handle any more. Anyone who has witnessed the passing of a loved one who doesn’t understand God’s love, and our love for each other is missing out on life.

I do not fear death. I an not too keen on the dying part.


45 posted on 06/13/2014 7:52:34 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: latina4dubya

Give them this example:

1. I have a DPOA and Healthcare proxy for my mother. Copies have been sent to my siblings.
2. There is an advanced life directive specifically stating that no feeding tubes, ventilation should be used to prolong life. No drug overdoses to speed death are allowed (this is allowed some places.). This too had been passed to her children and her attorney.

Now, my mom has a stroke and she is in a persistent vegetative state with no brain activity. She is being hydrated and a feeding tube has been installed.

Now, it is in my interest to keep her alive because I control all of the finances. If she dies, my POA ends, and the estate is probated. I lose control of all of the money.

Can a court revoke my POA and appoint a conservator and guardian?

That is the question that they will answer in the affirmative.


46 posted on 06/13/2014 7:59:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

You are a bit mixed up and all over the place. With your 1840 talk.

You don’t seem to be able to follow a logical thread with regard to your own words and argument.

You also assume things about my experience you don’t know.

As far as this issue, we are talking past each other because you are only talking about painful last days and the acute dying process.

At that point there is little to do but give comfort and love.

But that is not controversial or the issue.

In this case, and in many, Kasem has been fed for a long time with the stomach tube. It keeps people alive who are not going to die, but can’t eat safely.

It provides months to years extra life.

Yet now the push is to “let them go” when they get to the point where they can’t swallow correctly and go through a bout of pneumonia.

Let them go means euthanasia. Starvation.


47 posted on 06/13/2014 8:01:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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I saw my mother slipping away from me last year from inflammatory breast cancer when it went to her brain. It was very aggressive. She signed a DNR, although deep down inside, I felt I should have been consulted more, but still decisions have to be made at the end of life. I don’t know what is more suffering, the claims of feeding Kasem or letting him dehydrate, we have no feedback. If I may borrow from another religion, the Great Buddha said, “all life is suffering.” However, a person’s life is given to him/her by God and to actively take it by judicial fiat is wrong and it could lead to forced killing by the government. So I cannot be for dehydrating him to death. Sure he’s on his way out so we need to make him comfortable.


48 posted on 06/13/2014 8:09:11 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: Nifster
I have a terminal illness. The decisions have been made as a family. a DNR has been signed and witnessed. No life support devices are to be used. Everyone is aware of how I want my funeral, and how what ever leftover funds will be administered. My possessions have either been sold or given away to those that want them.
49 posted on 06/13/2014 8:27:23 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: ifinnegan

So you are a doctor?


50 posted on 06/13/2014 8:51:37 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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