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Any normal person would be feeling a sense of shame now. With Obama, not so much.
1 posted on 06/13/2014 6:44:03 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

I believe he is responsible. If he had tried to work out a sensible status of forces agreement to maintain long term the gains that had been made (whether or not he supported the war in the first place), things would likely have been different, IMHO.


35 posted on 06/13/2014 7:43:15 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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No, it’s not his fault. The fault is on those who perpetrate the violence.

But he made the decisions that paved the way for it to happen, and has done nothing to try to stop it. So he bears full responsibility, especially because such an outcome was so easily predicted and concerns over it were repeatedly dismissed.


36 posted on 06/13/2014 7:45:45 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Obama’s foreign policy is by Magic 8 Ball. I take that back, if his foreign policy was purely by chance, he would do what is right for the US once in a while.


38 posted on 06/13/2014 7:52:51 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Obama and progressives in general lack the 'shame' gene.

However,recalling essays posted in the past by Hugh Fitzgerald at JihadWatch.org (now at NewEnghlishReview), one begins to wonder if Obama is inadvertently revealing the true nature of Islam through his policy. The tribal nature of the Middle East defies Western logic/policy.

Why express “worry” about sectarian violence between different sects of mujahedin, who otherwise would be devoting their energies to our destruction? Evacuate the Christian minority and leave Islam to do what Islam does to themselves.

As for the Kurds, they will never be Arab. Islam is an Arab supremacy ideology, hence the eternal conflict between shia & sunni . . . any future for Kurds depends on expendable energy the Shia or Sunni has for addressing Kurds - eternally. It's the nature of the beast.

Islam is a self inflicted wound. The sooner the West realizes survival depends on excising Islam, the safer the world will be.

39 posted on 06/13/2014 7:53:03 AM PDT by wtd
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What does it take for Boehner to begin Articles of Impeachment for the Democrat’s Obama?


40 posted on 06/13/2014 7:58:13 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Obama took possession of it in 2011 by doing a “Mission Accomplished” victory lap.


42 posted on 06/13/2014 8:04:47 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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Yes. And the Obama buttlicking media will DO THEIR BEST to cover for him.

Hillary ALSO bears quite a bit of responsibility, too, by the way. She was at the helm of State as we ignored the threat.

The bottom line is we will end up fighting these terrorists. They will not stop in Iraq.

They are growing stronger, America under Obama and Hillary is growing weaker....

We must turn back to God. Repent.


44 posted on 06/13/2014 8:06:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Obama’s speech at West Point was a signal to the ISIS


45 posted on 06/13/2014 8:21:14 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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Here's the real powers behind Arab Spring, and the violent crap that escalated in Syria. and spread to Iraq: Bilderberg, CFR, Goldman Sachs & George Soros.

Fascinating article:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/12084-us-backed-syrian-opposition-linked-to-bilderberg-cfr-goldman-sachs-george-soros

50 posted on 06/13/2014 9:18:36 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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One has to suspect that this was Ob@ma's intent all along... the alternative is that he is stupider than a post. To tell the Iraqi govt to 'work out its differences' with insurrectionists is the same as saying: Good Luck!

I predict that within a week Iran will move in to fill the vacuum - the very thing we positioned ourselves to prevent with the 'surge' et fol. We had a $bil military base in Iraq that we could be using to counteract Iran... it could be providing us air-access to Afghanistan rather than needing fly-over permission from various.

Ob@ma has helped empower Iran vis-a-vis Turkey - once a primary U.S. ally in the region. He has helped empower Iran in Syria to help prop up Assad's regime. He has jeopardized Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, UAE & ? vis-a-vis Iran.

Christianity in all the Middle East is all but finished except in Israel - a country we are alienating progressively. In fact, if one reads Bible prophecy, one wonders if the antichrist is green with envy with all our Prez is accomplishing in breaking down the balance of power in the Middle East - and the world... and isolating Israel from all the nations.

<sigh>

52 posted on 06/13/2014 9:25:10 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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Obama withdrew US forces. It is his fault. Obama released the leaders of tgese groups. We should have permanent bases in Iraq. We are still in Germany.


58 posted on 06/13/2014 10:20:40 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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Obama has no shame. Only Communist Totalitarian ideology, just like his Kenya cousins.


60 posted on 06/13/2014 10:46:23 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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The end of the Iraq war in 2011 was a high point of President Obama's first term, marking the completion of one of his most important campaign promises....

As it turns out, a war only ends when BOTH sides decide it has ended.

61 posted on 06/13/2014 10:52:31 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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OF COURSE the Iraq collapse is the Kenyan’s fault! Don’t be silly!


66 posted on 06/13/2014 12:47:25 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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Personally I blame Global Warming and a movie that mocks Islam.

But that’s just me.


67 posted on 06/13/2014 12:55:00 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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Why should he feel shame? It’s not his fault. He hasn’t made a decision since he was elected. He is told what to do. Right now he’s being told to go play golf and keep his mouth shut.


69 posted on 06/13/2014 1:46:14 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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