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Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric issues call to fight jihadist rebels (al-Sistani urges followers)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 6/13/14 | Raheem Salman and Isra al-Rubei'i - Reuters

Posted on 06/13/2014 9:32:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Baghdad, Iraq (Reuters) - Iraq's most senior Shi'ite Muslim cleric urged followers to take up arms against a full-blown Sunni militant insurgency to topple Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, escalating a conflict that threatens civil war and a possible break-up of the country.

In a rare intervention at Friday prayers in the holy city of Kerbala, a message from Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, who is the highest religious authority for Shi'ites in Iraq, said people should unite to fight back against a lightning advance by militants from the radical Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

Fighters under the black flag of ISIL are sweeping south towards the capital Baghdad in a campaign to recreate a mediaeval caliphate carved out of fragmenting Iraq and Syria that has turned into a widespread rebellion against Maliki.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsistani; cleric; iran; iraq; isil; isis; islam; shiite; sistani; wot

1 posted on 06/13/2014 9:32:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Well we tried to civlize these people. That didn;t work. Maybe we should help pit them against each other. If they fight amongst themselves, much less likely they will want to bother us.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 9:39:16 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that has spread everywhere, even to the republican party)
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe this is the guy who gave us a fair amount of help in Iraq a few years back. He doesn’t love us but did like seeing Saddam Hussein gone.


3 posted on 06/13/2014 9:39:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Let the Hunger Games begin.

ISIS won’t get any closer to Baghad, nor will they be able to battle the Kurds either. ISIA are radical Sunnis, and Shiites may not fight for the government, but they will fight hard for their religion and clan.


4 posted on 06/13/2014 9:40:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NormsRevenge

Hasn’t Biden been given the job of taking care of Iraq?


5 posted on 06/13/2014 9:41:26 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: NormsRevenge; Cap Huff

this is going to get very bloody


6 posted on 06/13/2014 9:44:12 AM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m reading that this call to arms is out of character for Sistani. He isn’t usually given to incendiary statements. It is considered a big-fn-deal in Iraq to hear this from him.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 9:44:56 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa

yep


8 posted on 06/13/2014 9:45:53 AM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: ColdOne
Hasn’t Biden been given the job of taking care of Iraq?

Interesting, because it was Senator Joe Biden who proposed during the Iraq war a three state solution. Sunni, Shiite and Kurd. This of course was insane because separate state would result in radicalization of each. Instead a republic was forged which was working until the day Obama withdrew every single member of the Military.

Uncle Joe has his wish!

9 posted on 06/13/2014 9:47:00 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Cubs Fan
Well we tried to civlize these people. That didn;t work.

Three images are seared into my mind after we liberated Iraq
1. This large Iraqi taking a sledgehammer to a statue of Saddam
2. The US soldier that throws an American flag over the head of statue before pulling it down
3. The picture of a beautiful Iraqi woman, holding her finger dipped in purple ink after she voted for the first time

These images still brings tears to my eyes, with the hope that liberty would make it to the Middle East.

But the reality is that my tagline holds.

10 posted on 06/13/2014 9:55:02 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sad part of all this is.. Saddam’s Republican Guard would have wiped the desert floor in a couple days with these animals.


11 posted on 06/13/2014 9:56:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Cubs Fan

This would be a great strategy if we were energy independent, as we should be, if we were controlled by people who actually care about our country’s strategic national interests.

As it stands, I’m afraid we have to stay involved to make sure that the energy supply to the West is uninterrupted. Given, the interdependence of our country in the global economy, I’m not sure of all of the consequences that will occur if we allow the savages to choke off our industrial capacity. Perhaps the brain-trust here can chime in on this issue.


12 posted on 06/13/2014 10:02:30 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: ScottinVA

PUff is always standing by,, looking for a chance to spray some hot lead on vermonous heathen, I think Tomahawks are still being made too.., a flurry of drone attacks with HeLLFiRes would be a good start.. maybe a MOAB or two even.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 10:03:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: ScottinVA
Sad part of all this is.. Saddam’s Republican Guard would have wiped the desert floor in a couple days with these animals.

The good old days of Saddam and Kadaffy.

It only shows how unique in the world our country really is. And why we need to fight to the death to defend it.

14 posted on 06/13/2014 10:04:21 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: PGR88
ISIS won’t get any closer to Baghad, nor will they be able to battle the Kurds either.

There are already in Baghdad by the thousands. Sunni's who will take up the call for a Sunni Caliphate. Their army grows larger every minute. Only an aggressive bombing campaign will have a chance to stop them, unless Israel decides to put few mushroom clouds up.

15 posted on 06/13/2014 10:08:00 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Aren’t Tomahawks insensitive?


16 posted on 06/13/2014 10:09:08 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa

If that many of ‘em are willing to come out in the open, what the heck? I hate craters as much as the next guy but.. they make great mass graves.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 10:10:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bunches of Muslims, both varieties, will die shortly.

Tell me again why I should care?

18 posted on 06/13/2014 10:15:38 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: justa-hairyape; All
"Only an aggressive bombing campaign will have a chance to stop them, unless Israel decides to put few mushroom clouds up. "

Just why do we or Israel care which crazy Muslim is in charge? Is Sunni terror somehow different than Shia terror?

Has Iran become our ally and the Saudis/Turks our enemies?

We need to stay the hell out of there and be prepared to cut a deal with the victors.

19 posted on 06/13/2014 10:23:01 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: NormsRevenge

ISIL has total of 800 men by some reports.

They captured 4,500 members of the Iraqi army and beheaded 1,700 that were Shiite leaving 2,800 and change.

800 + 2,800 = 3,600 trained ISIL fighters.

Let’s neglect the Iraqi army all together.

The population of Baghdad is 7.2 million. If they marshaled just 1 percent of military aged men they would have 72,000 fighters.

The odds of ISIL taking Baghdad appear long, but anything could happen.

One of Maliki’s rivals or the military officers he fired could mount a coup, then anything could happen in the chaos.


20 posted on 06/13/2014 10:26:59 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Mariner

There are thousands of Americans in Iraq. A freeper has reported his only child is there. Obama could care less about these people. Yes, if this was the Iran/Iraq war, I would agree. Lets get those Americans out of there safely, then we can let them fight it out. But if it is a repeat of the old Iran/Iraq war, there will be numerous chemical and biological weapons used.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 10:34:28 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Fitzy_888

It is not just about ISIL. It is about the formation of a Sunni Caliphate. Many Sunni’s in Baghdad will join up and are probably sabotaging the cities defenses as we sit here and type. Their forces grow larger by the minute.


22 posted on 06/13/2014 10:37:06 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Iraq is 2/3 shiite, and Baghdad is the approximate border. Shiites will make a stand and I would bet ISIS knows it and won’t enter that buzz-saw.

There is no doubt there will be sectarian civil war which the USA until 2011, had prevented. And it WILL be ugly.

I actually could wind up benefiting Israel, as all their enemies will be occupied in killing each other.


23 posted on 06/13/2014 10:56:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

ISIL has prepared numerous suicide bombers that they will use on Baghdad.


24 posted on 06/13/2014 1:18:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape
ISIL has prepared numerous suicide bombers that they will use on Baghdad.

You mean ISIS. And it doesn't matter. Shiites outnumber them the further south they go, and Shiites have their own militias. ISIS picked the low-hanging fruit in Mosul and Tikrit. At this point, they are too small and out-gunned by the shiite militias, who can be just as brutal, to even consider taking Baghdad.

25 posted on 06/13/2014 1:24:21 PM PDT by PGR88
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