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Posted on 06/13/2014 4:01:04 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
A northern New Mexico town council has voted to change the name of Kit Carson Park over concerns by critics that the famed scout and explorer was cruel to American Indians.
The Taos Town Council passed a resolution Tuesday to rename the downtown park Red Willow following a presentation from activists, the Albuquerque Journal reports.
Council member Fritz Hahn said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park, which is named after someone who egregiously hurt her people. "We have got to heal the wreckage of the past, and Kit Carson is part of that," Hahn said
Carson, who died in in 1868, is buried in the cemetery at the park and his name is all over Taos. He largely is known as an explorer, trapper, soldier and American Indian agent.
But Carson was ordered by the U.S. Army to relocate around 8,000 Navajo men, women and children 300 miles from Arizona to Fort Sumner, New Mexico, on what's called the "Long Walk." An estimated 200 Navajos died from cold and starvation after traveling in brutal and harsh winter conditions for almost two months.
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Taos isen’t really taos, the entire town is overrun by Rich and famous liberals from both the east and west coast. Causing enormous economic and taxation problems for the original locals.
These outsiders who have flooded the Taos new mexico area often say they came because “the mountain” called them or whatever thinking their somehow mystically there. Its a bunch of crock, and you find the same thing in Santa Fe also in northern New Mexico.
He paid his own way to Washington and made their case to the President and Congress. He canvassed the ranchers in New Mexico and got live cattle donated to the reservation.
Once he had helped defeat them, Kit Carson busted his butt for the Indians' welfare...and this is the thanks he gets from them???
A travesty of history!
That’s assinine.
Millions of Americans are part Indian.
Dude, I am not a boy. I am the baddest b_tch you will ever meet! Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Kit Carson was a product of his times and was a “progressive” when it came to Indians (I’m not intentionally slandering him LOL). Like TexasGator said, he was involved with the US Army and to some degree, the Long Walk. But it was in the balance for the best that he was. He was an advocate for Indians, but had a practical and realistic view of what could and could not be done at the time.
I was taught that Carson was basically the Devil. That was wrong.
Oldplayer
Oklahoma Choctaw
The ignorance is astounding.
To start with, Kit Carson knew more about the Navajo than they did. With a unit of irregulars, facing a much larger assembly of Navajo warriors, he invented a new military tactic on the fly, and was able to escape with minimal loss.
At the time, the Navajo could field an army, with few disadvantages facing the US army, mostly because they lacked artillery and railroad transport. Horses were much like main battle tanks in that era, and the Navajo had a lot of very good horses.
So Kit Carson, ordered to control the Navajo, reached a very important conclusion: He had one real choice: kill every Navajo horse, or kill every adult male Navajo.
He chose their horses.
In this way, Carson saved thousands of Navajo lives.
Because had they kept their warlike ways, all too soon they would be in combat, not against irregulars, but against the very experienced Union Army, fresh from the Civil War, and lead by General Philip Sheridan.
General Sheridan had rather brutally whipped several major Indian tribes, and had his army fought the Navajo, there would be a heck of a lot of dead Navajo. Even the French army in Mexico, when their forward observers saw Sheridan’s army assemble near the border, suddenly decided that France was a far nicer place to be, so went home. Leaving skid marks.
So Carson was in fact the best thing that ever happened to the Navajo.
Any word on how many slaves the black king owned, and how many he sold to Muslim traders?
Well, they can just eat their poor little pea-pickin’ hearts out over it. Ft. Carson, CO is here to stay.
“Navajos really dislike Kit Carson.”
This cruel business was a two way street; especially by the warrior tribes such as Comanche, Apache, Sioux, Cheyenne....
Yep...he was so progressive toward indians he married a princess from the wolf clan of the cherokee and started the bloodline that begat Fiddlin John Carson...and me.
I am named William after his grandson.
No, the school officials never said how many slaves were owned or traded by that black African king. He probably gets a pass due to race. When the deleted the name of George Washington school, they were making a political statement about white slave owners, not slave owners of other races or backgrounds.
I knew that, of course.
But your post actually said that they were concerned about honoring slave owners, not honoring white slave owners.
Anybody want to bet the king owned some large multiple of the black slaves owned by George?
Taos means “Red Willow” in the Tiwa language
Taos means “Red Willow” in the Tiwa language
Re-name it in honor of Johnny Carson.
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Someone please send a war party to Taos NM to disinter old Kit and take his remains back to Nevada where he belongs.
Burn down Taos city hall on the way out.
Thank you.
***on what’s called the “Long Walk.”***
A sort stroll compared to the Cherokee “Trail of Tears”.
By the way, TAOS was not Navajo country. The Indians of TAOS suffered many raids from the Navajos far to the west who often made raids on TAOS.
These outsiders who have flooded the Taos new mexico area often say they came because “the mountain” called them or whatever thinking their somehow mystically there. Its a bunch of crock, and you find the same thing in Santa Fe also in northern New Mexico.
10% Native Tiwa 60% Hispanic 30% Anglo: half are old hippies The demographics of Taos are:
***said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park,***
Maybe he is uncomfortable because the ghost of Governor BENT is roaming looking for the descendents of those who killed and scalped him.
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