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Ex-Transit Cop Cries as He Recalls Fatal Shooting
ap ^ | PAUL ELIAS

Posted on 06/13/2014 7:49:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin

A former Northern California transit officer cried on the witness stand Friday while describing how he shot and killed an unarmed man on a train station platform more than five years ago.

Johannes Mehserle testified in federal court in San Francisco that he meant to use his Taser rather than his gun to subdue an already handcuffed Oscar Grant on New Year's Day in 2009.

Mehserle was testifying in a civil rights lawsuit filed by Grant's father against Mehserle, the Bay Area Rapid Transit agency and other defendants.

The shooting occurred as authorities were responding to a chaotic scene on the Fruitvale station platform in Oakland

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The father, Oscar Grant Jr., is seeking unspecified damages. He is currently serving a life sentence in state prison after being convicted of a 1985 killing. Two California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation guards escort him to court each day.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: bart; civilrights; police

1 posted on 06/13/2014 7:49:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: null and void

Boo hoo.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 7:51:21 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: BenLurkin

“meant to use his Taser rather than his gun”

I remember this story. This idiot deserves to lose everything he ever had. I don’t care who is taking his money.


3 posted on 06/13/2014 7:52:43 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Man up, dammit


4 posted on 06/13/2014 7:54:45 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: BenLurkin

This case was pretty amazing —the guy was lying on his stomach cuffed and the unjostled, calm officer somehow triggered his gun.

WEIRDEST THING IN THE WORLD.

Really, really caused the stuff to hit the fan in the San Fran Bay Area, at the time.

The incident inspired a whole movie, “Northdale Station”, or something like that.


5 posted on 06/13/2014 7:55:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: BenLurkin

Hard to feel sorry for someone for being so incredibly incompetent. But the civil rights charges just seem like BS to me.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 7:56:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Lurker

There is stupid.

And there is the special, extra brutal, stupid of the Uniformed, Armed, and Dangerous.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 7:56:58 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: smokingfrog

” But the civil rights charges just seem like BS to me.”

Why is that? This moron killed a man while wearing a government issued uniform, badge, and gun through sheer incompetence. He is being sued under a section of the Civil Rights Act. He’s damned lucky he wasn’t prosecuted under the criminal section of the US Code, 18USC242 which in my opinion he still should be.

He could have gotten the death penalty.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 8:02:00 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: gaijin

I would think that even just Tasering a suspect in that position would be questionable.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 8:02:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
The father, Oscar Grant Jr., is seeking unspecified damages. He is currently serving a life sentence in state prison after being convicted of a 1985 killing. Two California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation guards escort him to court each day.

Right or wrong, that gene pool needed draining.

10 posted on 06/13/2014 8:09:07 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, and it wasn’t like people were running around. There was minimal confusion, good lighting, no individuals were fighting —the officers had 4 suspects sitting off to one side, isolated from others, etc.

The officer had had the guy at gunpoint probably for almost ten unhurried seconds.

The movie name was “Fruitvale Station” —I got that wrong.

I remember the original news video and the amazing tension at all the B.A.R.T. stations after that incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crMTGCCui5c

One of the original BART killings that was really controversial was the killing of a UCSF neurosurgeon of quite some reputation at the Daly City BART station —very, very similar circumstances shortly after they first made the special BART department.

I don’t have any earthly idea of what was going through his mind, but it looked a lot like the officer simply got an impulse to shoot someone.

That does sound ridiculous, and I disbelieve that, but I saw that video maybe 20 times and each time that’s what it looked like.

Simple finger twitch? I have no idea, even now, years later.


11 posted on 06/13/2014 8:10:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: BenLurkin

12 posted on 06/13/2014 8:13:58 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: gaijin

Critical video portion is at 7:15 —I’m starting it about 15 seconds prior to that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q2LDw5l_yMI#t=414


13 posted on 06/13/2014 8:25:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Lurker

I believe the cop got off way too easy.
But the civil rights charge implies that he shot the kid out of anger or bigotry. So I guess we’ll just have to see what kind of evidence they can produce. Has this cop made any racist statements in the past, or does he have a history of violating anyone’s rights?


14 posted on 06/13/2014 8:40:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

“But the civil rights charge implies that he shot the kid out of anger or bigotry”

No it doesn’t. Go read the statute.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 8:41:06 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


16 posted on 06/13/2014 8:48:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Wrong statute. Go find the Civil one.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 8:49:07 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

I don’t know what was in the man’s heart. Do you?


18 posted on 06/13/2014 8:49:31 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Go find the Statute. What was or was not in his heart isn’t relevant to the discussion. He wrongfully deprived a man of his civil right to remain alive. That is beyond question.

He should die broke in the streets.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 9:01:55 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: gaijin; All

Videos of BART shooting taken by bystanders on the train

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2LDw5l_yMI


20 posted on 06/13/2014 9:07:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

What no one here seems to want to remember the that the “youth” who was shot was not the angel that is being claimed.

He had been committing crimes on BART cars for a long time, had been court-ordered not to ride BART and was essentially strong arming passengers.

I suspect that the BART officer was going to use the taser as a little bit of extra punishment, but somehow got the wrong gun.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 10:11:34 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: BenLurkin
OK, his defense is he wanted to Taser the unarmed guy, but he pulled his service pistol and shot and killed the guy instead? How could you mistake a Taser for your pistol? This is a really lame excuse, but one should remember this excuse is being offered to a California jury.
22 posted on 06/13/2014 11:34:35 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: BenLurkin

Murder 1.
Throw away the key.


23 posted on 06/14/2014 12:00:35 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: BenLurkin

Society wins all around in this one.
The guy he shot was a thug, thief and lowlife that needed shooting.
The shooter is a trigger-happy cop that got caught.
Both are off the streets.


24 posted on 06/14/2014 12:02:23 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: BenLurkin

If he was going to taser the guy, wouldn’t he have called out a warning to the other cops to back off?

That clearly didn’t happen.


25 posted on 06/14/2014 2:48:19 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: BenLurkin
The shooting occurred as authorities were responding to a chaotic scene on the Fruitvale station platform in Oakland

Nothing chaotic about it except for the cops themselves.

26 posted on 06/14/2014 2:49:47 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: BenLurkin

But I thought it was a dog. He sobbed.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 4:19:44 AM PDT by pas
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3055860/posts


28 posted on 06/14/2014 12:30:30 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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