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Chris Christie Rebuts Perry Comparison of Homosexuality To Alcoholism
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 13, 2014 | MARK Z. BARABAK, CHRIS MEGERIAN

Posted on 06/13/2014 9:46:42 PM PDT by Steelfish

Chris Christie Rebuts Perry Comparison of Homosexuality To Alcoholism

MARK Z. BARABAK, CHRIS MEGERIAN

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie takes questions at San Francisco flower shop GOP's Chris Christie pays a visit Facebook headquarters in California New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who signed legislation barring "gay conversion therapy" in his state, said Friday that Texas Gov. Rick Perry's comparison of homosexuality to alcoholism was wrong.

"I disagree with him, and I don't believe that's an apt analogy," Christie said during a San Francisco appearance alongside Neel Kashkari, the GOP candidate for California governor.

Christie was appearing with Kashkari in his role as head of the Republican Governors Assn., but he declined to speak for the organization and its members. "Every governor and public official has to speak for themselves on these issues," he told reporters. "I just spoke for myself."

I disagree with him, and I don't believe that's an apt analogy. - New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, discussing Texas Gov. Rick Perry's comparison of homosexuality to alcoholism At a question-and-answer session Wednesday night in San Francisco, Perry reiterated his belief that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice.

"Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that," Perry said. "I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that."

Perry previously made that analogy in a 2008 book, and his views were discussed during his 2012 presidential campaign. But his comments Wednesday night before the Commonwealth Club of California, a nonpartisan speakers forum, sparked new interest in light of the Texas GOP's recent adoption of platform language endorsing "reparative therapy," which holds that counseling can change the sexual orientation of adults

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New Jersey; US: Texas
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1 posted on 06/13/2014 9:46:42 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Does Christie have personal knowledge? I always wondered about him and Springsteen.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 9:50:53 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Steelfish

“I don’t believe that’s an apt analogy,” Christie said.

That’s only because there isn’t national alliance of alcoholic voters.


3 posted on 06/13/2014 9:52:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Steelfish

OMG, Christie, with everything that’s going on you have to insert yourself into a gay discussion.

That stupid ass move alone should eliminate him in anyone’s eyes from being President. 1, because it’s so damn ignorant and 2, because it’s an establishment stunt.

No more establishment, Christie!


4 posted on 06/13/2014 9:54:01 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Steelfish
He should have refuted Perry's statement that Hillary Clinton was a “Very, very capable public servant, great secretary of State, first lady,”

Yes, Perry said that too.

5 posted on 06/13/2014 9:57:39 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: BenLurkin

That’s only because there isn’t national alliance of alcoholic voters.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Looking at some of the present office holders, one could dispute your ‘claim’.

Of course, like they say, the difference between a drunk and alcoholic is the drunk doesn’t have to to to the meetings.(or something like that).


6 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:04 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Better to keep your enemies inside peeing out, rather than keep them outside, peeing in.".)
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To: Steelfish

I wonder if Christie thinks of his passion for food as genetic or a choice, and regardless of which, is it something that a person can choose to give into or not?


7 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Steelfish
"I disagree with him, and I don't believe that's an apt analogy," Christie said

"No," Christie added, "It's more like eating an upside down chocolate donut -- and everyone knows I know all about chocolate donuts."

8 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:09 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Steelfish
LA Slime, please go away. Nothing you print or post should be taken seriously. This is the leftist creed: never let the truth get in the way of your agenda. I should trademark this as you will never hear it from anyone else.
9 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:40 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Steelfish

Was the rebuttal in the story? I must have missed it. Christie disagreed, but he failed to rebut. Insert “butt” joke, then insert “insert” joke.


10 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:45 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Steelfish

As a recovering alcoholic, I also disagree with Perry.


11 posted on 06/13/2014 9:59:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: Steelfish

He needs to do well with the Dems in the primaries.

Pray America wakes up


12 posted on 06/13/2014 10:00:44 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Putin 2016)
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To: Steelfish

the analogy is good and not offensive to anyone IMO. Some people are certainly more genetically predisposed then others and there’s no doubt in my mind that certain environmental factors can influence the expression of genes. The genetically predisposed alcoholic, for example, does not become an alcoholic until he has been exposed to alcohol.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 10:01:45 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Steelfish

>>>Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that,”
<<<<<

But if a person wants to enter this type of treatment/ trial process, shouldn’t they have the Right to do so, Mr. Christie?! You guys have encouraged and added in funding for free clinics to women for abortions -many of those which are at the taxpayers expense. He’s such a typical insider/ saying anything or implementing policies to win over more liberal republicans and democrats. If a gay person wants treatment, don’t deny them or fall back to an excuse by saying they should not be forced to do it. Duh!


14 posted on 06/13/2014 10:04:34 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Steelfish

Perry has been training.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 10:07:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Steelfish

How about a comparison to gluttony?


16 posted on 06/13/2014 10:14:01 PM PDT by detective
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To: Steelfish

I will never vote for Christie, even if he’s the GOL nominee.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 10:16:21 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

GOP.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 10:16:47 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Kenny

He’s a dick. He also took unnecessary jabs at Palin years ago.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 10:19:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Steelfish
Perry reiterated his belief that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice.

Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice kind of like pedophilia and child abuse is a lifestyle choice, i.e. a disorder.


20 posted on 06/13/2014 10:30:00 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Steelfish

Oh, go and shake your jelly with Jimmy Fallon.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/13/politics/chris-christie-fallon-danceoff/


21 posted on 06/13/2014 10:32:19 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Steelfish

“”I disagree with him, and I don’t believe that’s an apt analogy,” Christie said during a San Francisco appearance alongside Neel Kashkari, the GOP candidate for California governor. “

Kashkari is yet another GOP gay marriage fan.

After he loses to Jerry Brown in November maybe he can move to New Jersey and open ‘Neel and Christie’s Gay Wedding Chapel’.


22 posted on 06/13/2014 10:42:28 PM PDT by Pelham (Either Deportation or Amnesty.)
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To: South40

Did he really...

That poisons the well for me...

He did that the first time around with Hillarycare...


23 posted on 06/13/2014 11:41:12 PM PDT by DB
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To: Steelfish

Alcoholism is much less destructive.


24 posted on 06/13/2014 11:42:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: DB
He did. I can only imagine how the Hillary campaign will use it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3166768/posts

25 posted on 06/13/2014 11:50:56 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

He may be a fine governor but he’s not up to being President. It’s a bridge too far.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 12:04:24 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

We really haven’t had a president that been up to being a president in almost 30 years.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 12:10:56 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Steelfish
...... AAAAAAAAAAAAAND .... He's Toast .....
28 posted on 06/14/2014 12:19:38 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: BenLurkin; xrmusn
That’s only because there isn’t national alliance of alcoholic voters.


29 posted on 06/14/2014 12:39:13 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Steelfish

Lumpy doesn’t equate obese with food either.


30 posted on 06/14/2014 12:43:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish
"Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that," Perry said. "I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that."

But, but, Chris, it IS an apt analogy for 99% of homosexuals.

31 posted on 06/14/2014 3:00:08 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: jospehm20
"He may be a fine governor but he’s not up to being President. It’s a bridge too far."

"We really haven’t had a president that been up to being a president in almost 30 years."

True dat.

32 posted on 06/14/2014 3:47:01 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Steelfish

First off; Perry did not make the comparison. The relevant comparison he made was in how folks had the option of making choices. Pretty bad when folks who claim to be on your side of the aisle will use the Leftists “interpretations” just as basely as the Leftists do...


33 posted on 06/14/2014 3:50:26 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Steelfish

I have a “genetic predisposition” to make love to all women. I have made a “lifestyle choice” to remain faithful to my wife. To deny that such factors may also be true for gays ignores reality. This whole blowup about Perry is simply a media effort to take him out, again.


34 posted on 06/14/2014 4:37:17 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Graybeard58

Why do you disagree? Do you think you have no choice but to drink to excess, or do you believe you can choose not to drink?

Or do you believe homosexuals are genetically compelled to engage in gay sex without the ability to make behavioral choices?

Which part do you disagree with, and how does your alcoholism inform your opinion?


35 posted on 06/14/2014 5:19:55 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Steelfish

Alcoholism...... how about gluttony?

Like gluttony, homosexuality can be cured.


36 posted on 06/14/2014 5:22:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Steelfish

Well Mr Christie I suggest you take it up with God. God set up what is sin and both alcoholism and homosexualism are sins according to the Word. I know it is easier to say you disagree with Perry but in reality you are disagreeing with God so man up and go whole hog if you think homosexual activity is not a sin.


37 posted on 06/14/2014 5:41:18 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Pelham
Kashkari is yet another GOP gay marriage fan.

Sure wouldn't have voted for this freak.

38 posted on 06/14/2014 7:13:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Steelfish

39 posted on 06/14/2014 10:22:11 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: DB

With a history of being pro-ILLEGAL alien, the foisting of his nanny-state Gardasil mandate on Texas females, his support for the NAFTA Superhighway, his support for instate tuition and financial aid for ILLEGAL aliens, and his opposition to building a fence at the border, La Raza Rick Perry is anything but a “fine governor”.


40 posted on 06/14/2014 10:34:56 AM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: bert

Alcoholism, Like gluttony and homosexuality can not be cured but steps CAN be made toward recovery.


41 posted on 06/14/2014 11:04:05 AM PDT by Phosgood (Send in the Clowns...but Wait, they're here!! >..<)
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To: Christie at the beach

Those “questioning” their sexuality are never permitted to be counseled in heterosexuality. The agenda ONLY pushes deviance.


42 posted on 06/14/2014 3:59:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: onedoug

Agreed. Neel Kashkari is bad news.


43 posted on 06/14/2014 4:22:50 PM PDT by Pelham (Either Deportation or Amnesty.)
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To: BenLurkin

Christie continued saying: It is closer to a 4 day crack high...


44 posted on 06/14/2014 4:25:45 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: South40

Is anyone going to run for President that isn’t working to give away the country in one way or another?

So far Cruz is the only who has my vote - if he runs. It isn’t clear what the legal status of Cruz is regarding being able to run.


45 posted on 06/14/2014 4:25:47 PM PDT by DB
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To: DB
Is anyone going to run for President that isn’t working to give away the country in one way or another?

I didn't think we were talking about running for president, we were talking about whether or not La Raza Rick Perry was a "fine governor". He's not.

I like Cruz also. You do know that Perry both endorsed and campaigned for Cruz's opponent, David Dewhurst, don't you? If Perry had his way Cruz would never have made it to Washington. My guess is if Cruz runs for president, Perry won't support him. Cruz is a TEA Party conservative, former DemocRAT and establishment Republican Rick Perry is not.

46 posted on 06/14/2014 4:41:01 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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and Perry ought to get his ass out of California, call out the state guard, the whole damn dps, every freaking jackass TABC agent and whatever other law enforcement he has control over ..put them on the border and stop this immigration nonsense ...and if a fed agent gets in the way, toss them in the county jail...perry goes on and on about state’s rights all the time ...but, when push comes to shove he’s just another big mouth wussy


47 posted on 06/14/2014 4:44:11 PM PDT by thestob (Paul Ryan is determined to destroy this country)
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