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Parents, Educators, Politicians All Share Blame for College Gradsí Woes
Townhall.com ^ | June 14, 2014 | Peter Morici

Posted on 06/14/2014 4:17:48 PM PDT by Kaslin

Despite five years of economic recovery, college graduates continue to face a tough job market. Certainly, young people should take responsibility for their lives, but parents, educators and politicians all share some blame for their troubles.

College graduates earn much higher wages and are less likely to be unemployed than high school graduates—and those gaps are increasing. Still many recent graduates cannot earn enough to live independently, and often end up in jobs that don’t require a college education.

Those with training in specialized fields generally find a good paying position quickly. For example, 75 percent of engineering and education majors find employment requiring a degree, but among those in liberal arts or communications, the figure is only 40 percent.

Essentially, many students paid and borrowed upwards of $100,000 or more to major in French or anthropology and end up working at Starbucks or a Verizon outlet.

The most fundamental problem is that high school students too often see four years at college as “an experience” and not “an investment.” And they get a lot of bad advice from adults who should know better.

Since first entering the classroom in 1970, hundreds of neighbors and friends have asked me about colleges and told me of their children’s plans.

So often mothers tell me they want their son or daughter to study what they love, pursue their passion, and everything will work out. The world may be glutted with international relations majors who also minored in history, but “Jimmy is bright and will find a good job.”

Fathers are worse. “Lacrosse is a big success factor for Sally, and her college really supports female athletes.”

High school teachers, coaches and counselors too often echo those sentiments.

As for politicians, I can’t remember a president or governor telling ordinary high school students “the country needs engineers and entrepreneurs.” Instead, they wax eloquently about public service, when government agencies are overwhelmed with applicants.

Legally, 18 year olds may be adults, but they are hardly qualified to borrow and invest 50 or 100 thousand dollars wisely, but that is exactly what we require them to do—burdened with too much bad advice.

President Obama courted the youth vote by making inexpensive loans for college more accessible and that makes matters worse.

Easy access credit has pushed up college tuition far faster than inflation generally and even health care costs. University presidents are happy to pad bureaucracies, and indulge faculty who would rather undertake research than teach, if students can borrow money to pay for it all.

Teenagers need to be told a college education is mostly about preparing to earn a living. You don’t need to read Socrates or solve differential equations to be a good citizen. Until the mid-20th Century, the vast majority of Americans led responsible and satisfying lives without a sheep skin.

In a technologically advanced economy, where even sophisticated white collar workers are replaced by machines and software—look at what computers did to travel agents—college is about acquiring skills that have value in the marketplace. That means picking a course of study that makes tuition and all that time in the library a good investment.

Before that can happen, parents, educators and politicians have to stop indulging adolescent inclinations, and start talking sense to youngsters—when they start looking for colleges at ages 15 or 16, and not when they leave at 22.

Until that happens, we will continue to have too many frustrated and overly indebted young adults.


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1 posted on 06/14/2014 4:17:48 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Despite five years of economic recovery, college graduates continue to face a tough job market.

Someone needs to check their premise.

2 posted on 06/14/2014 4:23:41 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Kaslin

Around here, welders and oilfield truck drivers out earn the college grads. Kids right out of high school are making $150k/yr. Most degrees are worthless. Liberal arts? I’m not hiring.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 4:24:15 PM PDT by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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To: Kaslin

It all comes back to what you major in. In general, people who get job and careers skills do well. Examples are those who major in accounting, nursing, engineering.

People who major in fields such as women’s studies are not getting job or career credentials in the process. There is simply no demand in the job markets for women’s studies majors.


4 posted on 06/14/2014 4:24:34 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Kaslin

It’s also the result of a government subsidized education system, By subsidizing the education system, it has made on-the-job training more expensive by comparison and, consequently, the business community will not train most of it’s workers. Most jobs don’t really need two or four year degrees to do their jobs, if employees can get their training while working.


5 posted on 06/14/2014 4:26:59 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Kaslin
college is about acquiring skills that have value in the marketplace.

I cannot argue that this is what college has turned into, i.e., job training. Once upon a time the purpose of college was to educate people.

6 posted on 06/14/2014 4:28:11 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Kaslin

Short and sweet, they’re are too many college graduates out there with degrees in non-marketable skills who, by all rights, have the mental ability to do only those jobs we are bringing in illegal aliens to do. Higher education IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. Someone with a degree in Angry French, Lesbian Women Studies/Basketweaving isn’t something employers are really looking for. Colleges and Universities should be prohibited from offering these types of degrees. If it isn’t a marketable skill, these schools shouldn’t be allowed to waste money teaching this garbage. It’s time for “comprehensive college and university reform”. Tuition rates are “skyrocketing” to teach this useless garbage and no one is doing anything about it.


8 posted on 06/14/2014 4:34:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: OldPossum

If someone can’t get an education without college, they won’t get one with college either.


9 posted on 06/14/2014 4:38:32 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Kaslin
30 years of pushing easy credit on students so that the colleges could charge anything they wanted resulted in a 1200% increase in college costs.

That's where the blame lies.

10 posted on 06/14/2014 4:43:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah, but if they pair that Women’s Studies degree with a minor in Sub-Saharan Homoerotic Literature and Dance, they’ve got a very powerful combination. :=)


11 posted on 06/14/2014 4:45:15 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Kaslin

The best education for the money is from the School of Hard Knocks.


12 posted on 06/14/2014 4:46:30 PM PDT by bushbuddy
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To: Kaslin

The one time I have agreed with Obama. Of course, he had to apologize because the liberals went nuts. LOL

“Here’s what he said: “[A] lot of young people no longer see the trades and skilled manufacturing as a viable career. But I promise you, folks can make a lot more, potentially, with skilled manufacturing or the trades than they might with an art history degree. Now, nothing wrong with an art history degree — I love art history. So I don’t want to get a bunch of emails from everybody. I’m just saying you can make a really good living and have a great career without getting a four-year college education as long as you get the skills and the training that you need.”

Read more: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/01/31/obama-becomes-latest-politician-criticize-liberal-arts-discipline#ixzz34f2MLlGb
Inside Higher Ed


13 posted on 06/14/2014 4:53:17 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Jonty30

Colleges Soak Poor Students to Funnel Aid to Rich

U.S. colleges such as Boston University are using financial aid to lure rich students while shortchanging the poor, forcing those most in need to take on heavy debt, a report found.

Almost two-thirds of private institutions require students from families making $30,000 or less annually to pay more than $15,000 a year, according to the report released today by the Washington-based New America Foundation.

The research analyzing U.S. Education Department data for the 2010-2011 school year undercuts the claims of many wealthy colleges that financial-aid practices make their institutions affordable, said Stephen Burd, the report’s author. He singled out schools — including Boston University and George Washington University — that appear especially pricey for poor families.

“Colleges are always saying how committed they are to admitting low-income students — that they are all about equality,” Burd said in a phone interview. “This data shows there’s been a dramatic shift. The pursuit of prestige and revenue has led them to focus more on high-income students.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-08/colleges-soak-poor-u-s-students-while-funneling-aid-to-rich.html


14 posted on 06/14/2014 4:55:37 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin
There is also Gregg vs. Duke Power in the mix. This case meant that firms could no longer use aptitude tests to see if a potential employee was a good fit for the job. So firms decided to substitute a college degree in place of an aptitude test. That is a major reason why so many positions require a degree when the actual job requires few or no skills of the type acquired in college.
15 posted on 06/14/2014 5:11:46 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Kaslin

At the end of 5, 6 or more of fun filled years at party central, a significant number of students are awarded a bachelors degree of entitlement which employers are failing to honor.


16 posted on 06/14/2014 5:43:51 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Wish I still had the picture of the OW student lamenting the fact that she had $90,000 student debt and no employer would “give” her a job in her course of study .... Hispanic gay, lesbian, and transgender studies.


17 posted on 06/14/2014 5:46:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: Kaslin

The new victim class, expecting employers to bow to their masters: the bureaucrat parents of those victims.


18 posted on 06/14/2014 5:49:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: MRourke85
maryland, you say? maryland is THE Freak state. Escape while you still can.
19 posted on 06/14/2014 6:05:45 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"There is simply no demand in the job markets for women’s studies majors"

That's an understatement.

In fact if someone came to me looking for a job and had THAT on their resume, it would be a huge red flag to keep this person far, FAR away from my business.

I wouldn't even hire them as a janitor.

20 posted on 06/14/2014 6:06:19 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Kaslin

Our kids knew EXACTLY what majors they would get help with and which ones they were on their own for.

They listened.


21 posted on 06/14/2014 6:55:34 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Kaslin

College seems to be the new system to keep the serfs in line. Graduate with huge loans to repay. Work any job diligently to pay the loan back and support a family. No time to question the BS coming out of DC or on the MSM.

Maybe indentured servant would be a better term.


22 posted on 06/14/2014 8:38:07 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“There is simply no demand in the job markets for women’s studies majors.”

Besides the usual suspects who take these classes to prolong high school, I’m sure they are used by people who are looking at a field that requires ANY degree. A lot of police departments want a degree, and to get a commission in the military you need one; I don’t believe there is a condition that it be a productive or real one...


23 posted on 06/15/2014 5:11:55 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Despite five years of economic recovery”...”Fathers are worse.”

Blah blah blah


24 posted on 06/15/2014 5:13:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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