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Iran Deploys Forces to Fight al Qaeda-Inspired Militants in Iraq
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 12, 2014 9:46 p.m. ET | Farnaz Fassihi

Posted on 06/14/2014 10:02:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The threat of Sunni extremists eclipsing the power of its Shiite-dominated Arab ally presents Iran with the biggest security and strategic challenge it has faced since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

With the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, an offshoot of al Qaeda, rapidly gaining territory, Iran deployed Revolutionary Guards units to Iraq, according to Iranian security officials.

Iran has invested considerable financial, political and military resources over the past decade to ensure Iraq emerged from U.S. war as a strategic partner for the Islamic Republic and a strong Shiite-led state. The so-called Shiite crescent—stretching from Iran to Iraq, Lebanon and Syria—was forged largely as a result of this effort. […]

The involvement of Iran would pose yet another security challenge for the White House, and raises the prospect of the U.S. and Iran fighting on the same side. The U.S. opposes Iran’s support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but with Tehran is jointly supporting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. …

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TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; farnazfassihi; iran; iraq; isis; israel; kurdistan; lebanon; qassemsuleimani; qudsforce; revolutionaryguards; rop; russia; syria; turkey; yazidi; yazidis

1 posted on 06/14/2014 10:02:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This is quite confusing for all.


2 posted on 06/14/2014 10:06:51 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Olog-hai

Wow, what a f...ing mess.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 10:16:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

Not unexpected, though.


4 posted on 06/14/2014 10:16:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
RE:”Not unexpected, though.”

Never would have happened with Saddam in power.

5 posted on 06/14/2014 10:21:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Olog-hai
The Iranians know they have a real fight on their hands.

Iraq: Arab countries equipment found in ISIL hideouts

The equipment belonged to the Peninsula Shield Force, the military side of the (Persian) Gulf Cooperation Council ([P]GCC), which consists of Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.

6 posted on 06/14/2014 10:21:22 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: sickoflibs

Maybe, maybe not. Iran was different back then too.


7 posted on 06/14/2014 10:24:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: sickoflibs
Never would have happened with Saddam in power.

According to his oldest daughter, he still is in power.

Iraq digs in for the Battle of Baghdad: A gripping dispatch from a city braced for bloody onslaught by ISIS jihadists

In posts in Arabic on her Facebook page, Miss Hussein appears to address her father, saying: ‘Your men and women have answered the country’s call, and they are coming to Baghdad.’

8 posted on 06/14/2014 10:26:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Olog-hai; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz
RE:”Maybe, maybe not. Iran was different back then too”

Invading, occupying and democratizing poor dysfunctional crapholes where they hate us was a bad idea,
sadly I believed Bush, Cheney, Rummy etc in the early 2000s.

I thought GHWB his daddy had a much better approach on this than GWB on this:

Bombs for oil rather than US Americans blood for muzzies who hate us.

9 posted on 06/14/2014 10:32:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: justa-hairyape; Olog-hai; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz
RE:”Never would have happened with Saddam s being the insurgency
.....
According to his oldest daughter, he still is in power.”

That's not being in power.. That's being the insurgency against those in power.

Is the Tea party in power in Washington making all the bad decisions? Do we blame them?

10 posted on 06/14/2014 10:38:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

This is not an insurgency. It is a coup.


11 posted on 06/14/2014 10:41:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: sickoflibs
When you put all three together, it was bad. You do not “democratize” anything either way, but you do defeat the enemy.

I’m reminded of Solzhenitsyn when he said this at Harvard:
Must one point out that from ancient times, a decline in courage has been considered the first symptom of the end?
We have had a growing decline of same since the end of WWII.
12 posted on 06/14/2014 10:45:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
"The involvement of Iran would pose yet another security challenge for the White House, and raises the prospect of the U.S. and Iran fighting on the same side. The U.S. opposes Iran’s support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but with Tehran is jointly supporting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki."

No, no, and hell no! Let all those Islamists kill each other without one more drop of blood, sweat, or tears from American military and their families. It will keep the Sunnis and Sheites busy. I'm not saying pull up the drawbridge as Ron Paul would like. I'm saying let them kill each other, but stand by.

Once Iran, Syria, Iraq, North Korea has the capability to strike America with nukes or WMD's, then nuke ALL those goat-humping crazy sh*ts back to their beloved 7th century or in the case of NK, to his Daddies grave.

I'm so tired of the West putting up with these savages. And as I've said in other threads here, KILL THEM ALL, and I don't care about collateral damage. Better their wives and kids than ours. I admire Truman for nuking Japan.

Many reading this don't understand how many 10's of thousands of American troops would have died if we had to invade Japan, not to mention many more thousands with injuries and maimed for life. And I'm not even including the Japanese resistance which would have been 10 times our casualties. The mainland and outlying islands were most comprised of old men, women, and children.

There's also the FACT that the Emperor was arming children to die for his "godsake".

Japan learned from Nagasaki and surrendered. Apparently Hiroshima was not enough. Point being, although many of these Jihadists don't wear uniforms, I say bomb some cities in the right places and maybe they will learn also. No singular drone strikes, I'm talking hitting their stupid rock in Mecca and killing them and their Hamas buds. Kill them all before they get nukes.

Give me the "football" for 20 minutes, and I would end this Islamist crap. Bet Russia and China would be relieved, not to mention impressed.

13 posted on 06/14/2014 10:46:59 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

“All those Islamists” do not intend to “kill each other”. Once strong leadership reasserts itself over the region, their attention will be re-focused on the Great Satan.


14 posted on 06/14/2014 10:48:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: A Navy Vet

Looks to me that this is gonna be a war where Obama is on both sides. The perfect position for him. On one side we have the Sunni’s and on the other side we have the Shiites. Heck, Obama could send US troops to both sides.


15 posted on 06/14/2014 10:55:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Olog-hai; justa-hairyape; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz
RE:”When you put all three together, it was bad. You do not “democratize” anything either way, but you do defeat the enemy.
......
We have had a growing decline of same since the end of WWII.”

The GWB, McCain, Grahamnsety neocons created an imaginary claim blown up fast that invading, occupying and rebuilding Iraq would be for us like it was in Europe 1945.("They will welcome us as liberators")

But Iraq wasn't France. In France 1944 our soldiers really had the people welcoming them as liberators. France was great place to be for US soldiers at the end of WWII.

That was far different from all these different Muzzie sects who hate each other and us even more.

16 posted on 06/14/2014 11:00:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

They certainly didn’t do things the same way as during WWII either.

I don’t recall reading or seeing that the Germans were happy to see US troops on their soil. Victors do not elicit positive reactions from the vanquished.


17 posted on 06/14/2014 11:06:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
"“All those Islamists” do not intend to “kill each other”. Once strong leadership reasserts itself over the region, their attention will be re-focused on the Great Satan."

You may be correct, but let the Sunnis and Sheites kill each other before re-focusing on the West. Been going on for centuries. As someone here said, "maybe it's in their DNA", although I doubt that. However, with a few strategic placed nukes, most would be gone. The rest would go back to goat-humping. I would use my last 5 minutes to tell Saudi Arabia to lower their crude prices or we pull out ALL American technicians. If they don't comply, let the fires burn on their wells and docks like Saddam did to Kuwait. I feel NO mercy for these savages.

America no longer needs their oil and I would love to see them living back in tents. However, doesn't include UAE or Bahrain who are very pro western. Yes, I'm willing to pay a higher price for gasoline. So what? We frack more and keep our oil to ourselves and prices go down, providing the oil companies are forced to comply which is one Fedgov law I could live with! America first!

18 posted on 06/14/2014 11:11:23 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Olog-hai; justa-hairyape; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz
RE:”certainly didn’t do things the same way as during WWII either.
I don’t recall reading or seeing that the Germans were happy to see US troops on their soil. Victors do not elicit positive reactions from the vanquished.”

Pleeeze, the French and Belgians welcomed us as liberators and the Germans followed our orders.

You don't recall Patton putting Germans to work in Germany and trying to tell his superiors that he needs them to run the country, or the Germans wholesale slaughtering each other in civil war.

There is is no f.ing way that these poor muzzie crapholes equate to Germany and Germans.

19 posted on 06/14/2014 11:18:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

Equating Iraqis with the French and Belgians is the flaw here; the Iraqis were not subjugated by anyone. And we didn’t have the rules of engagement that our present-day military is saddled with.

And we never Marshall-Planned Iraq either. Furthermore, consider how long US troops have been in Europe.


20 posted on 06/14/2014 11:23:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: eyedigress

not really. it’s about sects. Its about Obama losing Iraq. In the middle east religion trumps all.


21 posted on 06/14/2014 11:26:20 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: sickoflibs
"That was far different from all these different Muzzie sects who hate each other and us even more."

Therein lies the problem I keep trying to tell folks. It's not a matter of nationalism or imperialism or even colonialism. They just don't have the same mind set. They are about their god and anyone who doesn't believe in THEIR god is an enemy. They are also violently opposed to different interpretations of their god, think Sunni versus Shiites.

They will never be at peace with the West, where some believe in a god (not their's) and others don't. I believe that to be every human's right.

Sooo, KILL ALL who refuse to let people live in peace no matter their beliefs. I mean this. Kill them in a large and purposeful manner that will send that back into their goat-humping days. Oh wait, they still do that. Sorry goats, under my rule you would have many in line. Got KY?

22 posted on 06/14/2014 11:28:56 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Olog-hai
RE:”Equating Iraqis with the French and Belgians is the flaw here; the Iraqis were not subjugated by anyone. And we didn’t have the rules of engagement that our present-day military is saddled witht”

As is equating the GWB US Iraq invasion with WWII allied liberation of Europe.

23 posted on 06/14/2014 11:29:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: eyedigress; no-to-illegals; All

I hear an Iraq expert explaain that the terrorists had carefully avoided the Kurdish areas of Mosul. Also that Malaki has been quite vicious to his enemies and Sunnis. Today the chief Shiite cleric in Iraq (Sistani?) urged young men to fight these takeovers. They also captured the Turkish consulate in Mosul and may still be holding the Ambassador’s family. How mad will the Turks get???


24 posted on 06/14/2014 11:32:48 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: sickoflibs; All

Bush Sr. had the good sense and patience to build successful coalitions for Gulf War I. Cheney, who was involved in that failed to understand the lesson, or was in too much hurry to give Halliburton those big contracts.


25 posted on 06/14/2014 11:36:33 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: A Navy Vet; All

Muslims are having their “Protestant Reformation”, that killed so many in stupid European religious wars. Thank “God” our founding fathers had the good sense to separate church and state.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 11:45:02 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

I don’t know the Turkey Government nor their assets in the region. If they need the Kurds to unite resources between Iraq and Turkey then it would seem they have a green light.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 11:50:18 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: gleeaikin
RE:”Bush Sr. had the good sense and patience to build successful coalitions for Gulf War I. Cheney, who was involved in that failed to understand the lesson, or was in too much hurry to give Halliburton those big contra

For sure!

28 posted on 06/14/2014 11:57:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Olog-hai

Probably a deal in the works - work with us and prove you’re good guys and we’ll stop paying lip service about you not getting nukes....


29 posted on 06/15/2014 2:24:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Olog-hai

My personal suspicion? The various Middle Eastern rigimes realize the oil is running low, and need an excuse to kill off their male underclass. War is the classical solution.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 2:54:24 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: eyedigress

Not all that confusing if you look at the historical record. Sunni versus Shiite easy enough
However the country boundaries were drawn by the British and French during and after WWI as the Ottoman Empire fell apart. There was no consideration of ethnic or religious factors. What we are seeing is a reversion to tribal societies as before WWI. Let it happen and stay out of it I say


31 posted on 06/15/2014 3:15:31 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: sickoflibs
I thought GHWB his daddy had a much better approach on this than GWB on this: Bombs for oil rather than US Americans blood for muzzies who hate us.

There is is no f.ing way that these poor muzzie crapholes equate to Germany and Germans.

Hear hear!

32 posted on 06/15/2014 9:07:58 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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“There is is no f.ing way that these poor muzzie crapholes equate to Germany and Germans.”

Outside of a sheer hatred of all that is Jewish, no. Although Himmler expressed that Islam was a good religious belief system for the Nazis.

The Germans, for the complete barbarity they did show, were considered to be one of (if not the) most cultured countries in Europe. You can’t say that about ANY Islanic sh*thole.


33 posted on 06/16/2014 7:20:09 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Culture isn’t a saving grace by itself.


34 posted on 06/16/2014 7:23:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: gleeaikin
Bush Sr. had the good sense and patience to build successful coalitions for Gulf War I. Cheney, who was involved in that failed to understand the lesson, or was in too much hurry to give Halliburton those big contracts.

The 49 countries that joined the coalition with GWB didn't count for anything?

35 posted on 06/16/2014 7:24:28 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Olog-hai

I didn’t say it was.


36 posted on 06/16/2014 7:24:32 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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> The Guardian confirmed on Friday that Major General Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards’ elite Quds Force, had arrived in Baghdad to oversee the defence of the capital.

Iran sends troops into Iraq to aid fight against Isis militants
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Posted on 6/15/2014 11:41:13 PM by Star Traveler
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37 posted on 08/24/2014 8:04:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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