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What to do When Forced to Perform ‘Gay Weddings’
BarbWire ^ | Matt Barber

Posted on 06/15/2014 8:13:01 AM PDT by Woodland

Churches in Denmark are now compelled, by law, to host same-sex “weddings.”

America is next.

Tyranny’s appetite is insatiable. The secular-left’s hunger for power and control over its detractors can never be satisfied. To outwardly succumb and affirmatively capitulate to their pagan demands will never be enough.

Thought control is the goal.

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1 posted on 06/15/2014 8:13:01 AM PDT by Woodland
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To: Woodland

In America, there would be revolution first.


2 posted on 06/15/2014 8:15:19 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Woodland

Not Catholic priests.


3 posted on 06/15/2014 8:21:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Woodland

Lt them start their own church...and abortion clinics...oops....nevermind...


4 posted on 06/15/2014 8:21:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Woodland

Churches should decline to act as agents of the state. Do the church service only after a couple being married has completed the legal formality of obtaining and completing their marriage certificate and being married in front of a judge. I hate to suggest this because it plays into the “’Wall of separation” view of church and state, but do we really want the Gay lobby to fund its activities with the proceeds of lawsuits against churches and Christians?


5 posted on 06/15/2014 8:28:25 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Woodland

It is Leftist Sharia.


6 posted on 06/15/2014 8:29:11 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Woodland

Uh. Refuse. Go to jail. Sit in the lion’s den. Sit in the fiery furnace. Have faith. Keep the faith.


7 posted on 06/15/2014 8:30:29 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Woodland

I suppose the most pathetic aspect of this wanton cultural destruction is that gays and their sympathizers really, truly believe that for the first time in history they are now accepted, love, equal, etc.

What the poor desperate saps don’t realize is that they are just another leftist battering ram used to raze Western civilization and all that has gone before.

As the article says, trannies believe their moment has arrived but there is still a huge difference between probable mental illness and the sure-nuff real thing. Moreover, the trannies can’t agree on what constitutes their condition. They are fond of preaching ‘sexual/gender identity is a continuum’...’male/female are just social constructs’ but suddenly when it comes to bathroom use, sports team participation, etc. their so-called rules are ironclad and must be obeyed without question. They can rot.


8 posted on 06/15/2014 8:32:24 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Endual,etc)
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To: Woodland
QUOTE from Article: "Pastors, priests, you will then face three choices: 1) Surrender, disobey God’s law and obey man’s, 2) Stand firm, disobey man’s law and obey God’s, or 3) Use the opportunity to serve, speak truth in love and glorify Jesus.

I like No. 3."

He may like 3, but the pastors still must choose 1 or 2.

9 posted on 06/15/2014 8:34:13 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

#2 is #3. #1 is the opposite.


10 posted on 06/15/2014 8:41:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Woodland

IMO, churches in America will not be forced by law to perform such ceremonies.

However, it is quite possible that an attempt will be made to remove tax-exempt status from those churches promoting hate.


11 posted on 06/15/2014 8:42:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: relictele

If islam ever prevails - to which this homosexual rights nonsense is directly contributing - God help the homos when they’re herded into the stadiums.


12 posted on 06/15/2014 8:42:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Woodland

Next, Churches will be forced to hire homosexuals for staffing purposes.

Religious schools will be forced to hire homosexuals, too.


13 posted on 06/15/2014 8:45:09 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Woodland

“...or have your 501(C) tax emempt status revoked.”

Well, there hangs the center of it. Ok, fine, LET them revoke the preferred tax treatment. Figure when it comes to this point, your church will become a tax-paying operation — like any other business. “Render unit Caesar,” and so forth. Raise additional funds to cover the tax bills.

Of course, even that level of knuckling under won’t help you. They’ll cancel your special tax status and force you to do the ceremony anyway — just like the cake baker, who was not even a church, but a simple commercial business.

It’s not about civil rights, or religion — it’s about tyranny and mind control. They demand the power, and you will submit — or else. (Remind you of anything?)

Now, don’t get me wrong: I’m a bible-believing Christian to the best of my inadequate ability. What I am saying is, the evil ones hated Him long before they came to hate and crush you.

It’s coming, friends, and I see no way to stop it or slow it down. Be clear in your mind on this point. They will not relent because of who it is they are working for.


14 posted on 06/15/2014 8:47:08 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Woodland

Denmark doesn’t have the First Amendment. This is an important difference. I don’t doubt that things will get harder for churches that preach against gays, but they will not be forced to perform gay marriages. Churches today are not forced to perform any marriage, and there are plenty of other popular marriage causes. Churches can decline to marry people who aren’t of their denomination, people who don’t go to church, people who’ve been divorced, or interracial couples.

Now clerks WILL be required to issue marriage licenses to gays...


15 posted on 06/15/2014 8:52:39 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Woodland; Elsie
Hey queers. Come on down and get married HERE! We'll fly reverend Elsie in to perform the ceremony. That will only add another $10,000 to the price.
16 posted on 06/15/2014 8:53:42 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Woodland

Just like with gun registration - WE WILL NOT COMPLY.


17 posted on 06/15/2014 8:59:28 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: G Larry
In America, there would be revolution first.

Not lately.

18 posted on 06/15/2014 8:59:51 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Woodland
That should be a red line.
19 posted on 06/15/2014 9:03:22 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: unixfox

No CHURCH in America has been FORCED to perform a gay MOCK wedding.


20 posted on 06/15/2014 9:05:05 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: petitfour

Yep. Refuse. Period. You don’t have to try to convince anyone of the righteousness of your cause. You don’t need to proselityze or convert anyone. You don’t need to “make a statement.”. You don’t answer to anyone. You only answer to Him.

You can joyfully and serenely refuse your assent to the lie that is homosexuality, driven not by judgment or pride but by Faith.


21 posted on 06/15/2014 9:05:43 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Woodland

We know marriage is and always has been between a man and a woman.

Sodomite marriage is nothing but an illusion of marriage, not to be taken seriously. In other words, a joke on the public.


22 posted on 06/15/2014 9:07:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: William of Barsoom
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23 posted on 06/15/2014 9:08:59 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: William of Barsoom

Tyranny and mind control is what it is, and both are endorse indirectly by the uninformed American people.


24 posted on 06/15/2014 9:23:13 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Woodland
The article says, "Unless America’s pastors rise up as one, now, that day will arrive like a thief in the night, a day when each pastor will be told that he must solemnize sodomy-based marriages in his church or his church’s 501(c)(3) status will be revoked. At that point, he and his church will effectively be out of business.

Wrong. Churches can and do survive without 501(c)(3) status.

25 posted on 06/15/2014 9:26:49 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Woodland; Tax-chick; cyn; GeronL; MeshugeMikey
When beast.gov considers itself the highest power in the land, it usurps the throne and authority of God for itself.

Having done that (at least being wholy convinced of such a delusion), it defines reality as it wants - exchanging truth for lies - creating something out of nothing.

To keep up the new and improved fake reality, the beast must crush all opposition. It must trample truth and reason [and their witnesses] by whatever means necessary.

TC, you had it exactly right on a previous thread, so I'll paste that comment here:

I don’t know what the next step is, but now that “we” have declared the existence of objective reality to be socially unacceptable, I predict that it will be a doozy.

The current culture is based upon a wrong idolatrous premise, that Fedzilla (or any human government) can dictate reality. The governmental system that was supposed to reinforce the proper boundaries of a Ten Commandments-based nation and society has put itself in the place of God and His Torah, morphing into a cruel, despotic regime straight from the Abyss.

That's what happens when the humans play god. "Liberty" in license is self-destruction.

Isaiah 1

4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

26 posted on 06/15/2014 9:30:24 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: G Larry

You got it, revolt would come first.


27 posted on 06/15/2014 9:33:40 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: unixfox

It has started, with the primary election of Dave Brat.


28 posted on 06/15/2014 9:34:46 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Woodland

Just say NO!

The states need that have passed amendments, and whatever, also need to say no to FedZilla. When FedZilla says that those amendments, etc., are unconstitutional, the states need to just say NO! and instruct the system in the state to say NO!

Why is it FedZilla has bought all their ammo and guns, why is FedZilla is studying how to control civil unrest in America, why is it FedZilla has given MRAPS, SWAT tools and training to counties and cities?

When states say NO!
When pastors say NO!
When congregants say NO!
When FedZilla says YES!..
.. then what?


29 posted on 06/15/2014 9:42:56 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Woodland

If I had a church building? I would burn it to the ground. Worship and fellowship do not require a building.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 9:44:54 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Woodland

31 posted on 06/15/2014 10:00:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sherman Logan
However, it is quite possible that an attempt will be made to remove tax-exempt status from those churches promoting hate.

I don't see that happening to the churches of Farrakhan and Wright.

Just to Christian churches that are deemed "intolerant" by the Coexist Bumpersticker Crowd.

32 posted on 06/15/2014 10:05:44 AM PDT by Rodamala (If there is one thing liberals can't stand, it's intolerance.)
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To: Woodland

I’d be shooting.


33 posted on 06/15/2014 10:06:36 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Rodamala

Well, of course not.

Everyone knows the laws about not engaging in political activity don’t apply to black churches and never have.

Hate is of course defined for this purpose as conservative doctrine.


34 posted on 06/15/2014 10:09:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Woodland

Gay Marriage is the Mark of the Beast.


35 posted on 06/15/2014 10:19:15 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: onedoug

That’ll happen in Europe first. Let them burn in the fire they built.


36 posted on 06/15/2014 10:21:21 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Utah Binger

“Hey queers. Come on down and get married HERE! We’ll fly reverend Elsie in to perform the ceremony. That will only add another $10,000 to the price. “

Now why would you “stir up” Elsie on Father’s Day? Now “she” will flood FR with half of the Book of Mormon together with “her” commentary just to pi$$ us all off!


37 posted on 06/15/2014 10:36:29 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Woodland

Freemen and women aren’t forced to do anything. If you are in the position of being forced you are either submitting as a slave or being raped.


38 posted on 06/15/2014 10:39:58 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry of "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: aimhigh

Golly, I wonder how the early churches survived without their 501 (c)(3) status. Just the like the underground church in China and Russia - they meet secretly in homes and other places - they have no buildings with fancy stained-glass windows or steeples and they serve and worship the Lord just fine. In fact, I’d gesture that they walk closer to God than most of us do.


39 posted on 06/15/2014 10:40:04 AM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: Ezekiel

Francis Schaeffer said that when the government attempts or tries to take the place of God, it ceases to be legitimate.

Take that thought to its logical conclusion.


40 posted on 06/15/2014 11:06:11 AM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Ezekiel

God Created Man

God Created Woman

God did not create transgendered anything....

those with an ear...will understand this...pretty readily

all others will vote democrat in the next election


41 posted on 06/15/2014 11:25:29 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: vette6387; Elsie

Sorry I couldn’t resist. Elsie has been here to southern Utah but resisted the temptation to preach.


42 posted on 06/15/2014 11:29:22 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Woodland

There is a fourth option. The church can cease to perform weddings for everyone including their members. The members could get married outside at a JP then come into the church to get a little “holy water” sprinkled on it.


43 posted on 06/15/2014 11:29:31 AM PDT by george123 (gesully)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

The church in Denmark is officially part of the State.


44 posted on 06/15/2014 11:31:01 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Woodland

Do the homily from Romans 1


45 posted on 06/15/2014 11:33:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: MeshugeMikey
God did not create transgendered anything....

That's why beast.gov insists on replacing God... so it can do just that. The beast system is hell-bent on playing creator, so it can create the impossible. Plus it's got a huge fan base.

It's ends up freaking out and going scorched earth because the opposition (truth, reality) by nature cannot be destroyed.

It's not like the beast is going to admit error. Humility and honesty is contrary to its nature.

46 posted on 06/15/2014 11:39:19 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: aimhigh

What happens when the state decides to retroactively revoke a church’s 501(c)(3) status back to the date of its founding and charge interest and penalties for back taxes due? Before you say “they can’t do that!” what’s to stop them?


47 posted on 06/15/2014 11:41:45 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Ezekiel

when was the last time....there was a Humility Parade??


48 posted on 06/15/2014 11:44:33 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Ezekiel
To keep up the new and improved fake reality, the beast must crush all opposition. It must trample truth and reason [and their witnesses] by whatever means necessary.

It's starting. People are losing their jobs for saying, "He was a man yesterday, he's a man today, no matter what he says." It's only a matter of time before the consequences grow even more severe.

49 posted on 06/15/2014 12:02:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I have a classic sports car.)
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To: Woodland

Denmark has a state church. When your “church” is a tax funded government institution, and most taxpayers want you to do same sex weddings, you need to do what the boss tells you. Will not happened here as long as churches stay independent of the government.


50 posted on 06/15/2014 12:06:49 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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