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Iraq Says It's Halted Militant Group's Advance On Baghdad
NPR ^ | June 15, 2014 | by EYDER PERALTA

Posted on 06/15/2014 9:35:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Iraqi government says it has halted a militant group's advance on Baghdad.

As The Telegraph reports, the Iraqi army started engaging the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, after it made a rapid advance in which it captured the key city of Mosul.

"'Our security forces have regained the initiative,' said Maj Gen al-Moussawi, adding that the Iraqi army had won 'remarkable victories with the help of volunteers'. 'We will not stop at liberating Mosul from ISIS terrorists, but all other parts,' he continued."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdad; bho44; bhomiddleeast; gcc; iraq; kurds; leadingfrombehind; saudiarabia; soskerry; syria; usembassy
I'm reminded of Baghdad Bob.
1 posted on 06/15/2014 9:35:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My thoughts exactly!


2 posted on 06/15/2014 9:40:57 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can actually believe that ISIS was stopped. Figures are hard to come by and believe, but when Ayatollah Sistani called for volunteers, about 1.5 million Iraqis of all ages volunteered. It may be more to the credit of these volunteers than the Iraqi Military that ISIS was stopped dead in its tracks. Further, I have read that the ISIS forces weren’t all that great in number. I remember reading they were about 3,500 to 5000. But that does seem a little low.


3 posted on 06/15/2014 9:44:48 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would then expect to see large piles of dead militants, wouldn’t you?


4 posted on 06/15/2014 9:46:19 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Would this be an Obama-style “al-Qaeda is on their heels” announcement?

Considering, it’s from NPR...


5 posted on 06/15/2014 9:48:43 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the Iraqi government succeeds in repealing the terrorists, Obama will come out looking like a genius and a strong leader. He forced them to stand on their own and he KNEW they could do it even though they didn’t know themselves.


6 posted on 06/15/2014 9:53:31 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Logistics comes to mind.
ISIS has advanced fast, but have their supply lines caught up with them?
Maybe, that is why those ISIS-sympathizing commanders ordered their troops to drop their weapons and retreat.


7 posted on 06/15/2014 9:58:00 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Read an account from the front lines where heavy fighting was occurring around that airfield that was surrounded. The one that had hundreds of American contractors hired by the Pentagon. They said ISIS/ISIL were absolutely fanatical fighters. Wanting to die on the battlefield. No fear at all.


8 posted on 06/15/2014 10:10:14 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Fishing-guy

Assad is now pounding them in the west. Look for the House of Saud to send more reinforcements for their ground troops (ISIS).


9 posted on 06/15/2014 10:12:27 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Hold on a minute, Mike Rogers was on Fox today saying that the Arab League needs to be strengthened to resist ISIS; of course Saudi Arabia is Arab League; why would you think Rogers is that clueless?


10 posted on 06/15/2014 10:18:38 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Enterprise

In addition, the demographics are changing rapidly as ISIS approaches Baghdad. ISIS has rapidly taken areas with a Sunni majority, here is the victory parade with their new arsenal of equipment in Mosul:

ISIL/ISIS show off there new arsenal in Mosul 13 June 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAxNZfWmhMQ

Baghdad and most all areas to the south have a Shiite majority. There will be no more parades down there.

ISIS will consolidate it’s great gains; now it’s time to recruit and train; and, do a little hearts and minds propaganda.

They just created the largest Islamic fundamentalist state in the world, why risk losing it trying to conquer majority Shiite areas.

They’d be fools to go after Baghdad with a force of 5-12 thousand, unless some game changing event occurs. The army deserts in mass, there is a coup, etc.


11 posted on 06/15/2014 10:20:55 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I heard that Taji , the biggest base in Iraq has fallen to “ISIS”. It’s a suburb north of Baghdad.


12 posted on 06/15/2014 10:25:17 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Fitzy_888

The ISIS is a front or cannon fodder for the old Iraqi Army. Most of their gains have been generals telling the soldiers to walk off.

There are a bunch of spies in the high command of Maliki’s army, so yes, the entire Army could collapse. I don’t think fresh recruits from Sadr City are going to hold Baghdad.


13 posted on 06/15/2014 10:30:01 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: gusopol3

Everyone on the MSM is clueless. That is why I do not even have a TV. Why waste time ? ISIS is being supplied with arms from the (Persian) Gulf Cooperation Council ([P]GCC), which consists of Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.


14 posted on 06/15/2014 10:43:18 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

The greatest enemy of the GCC is Iran

You got it wrong. Iran covets the wealth of the Emirates and the holy sites in Saudi Arabia.


15 posted on 06/15/2014 10:44:59 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: sunrise_sunset
I don’t think fresh recruits from Sadr City are going to hold Baghdad.

ISIS has laid out its plans for all to see. They are now hitting Baghdad with mass suicide bombings.

Iraq unrest: Baghdad hit by deadly suicide attack

Baghdad Blast As Iraq 'Massacre' Images Emerge

16 posted on 06/15/2014 10:47:25 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: sunrise_sunset
I heard that Taji , the biggest base in Iraq has fallen to “ISIS”. It’s a suburb north of Baghdad.

There were lots of American contractors there hired through the Pentagon at a tank training grounds. Hope they made it out okay.

17 posted on 06/15/2014 10:49:29 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: bert

ISIS and Iran are fighting each other on the battle field right now. Iran has solid evidence ISIS is being armed by the GCC. That is why Assad is now unleashing hell on them in the west.


18 posted on 06/15/2014 10:52:04 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Enterprise

I heard the ISIS was about 12,000...and the Iraqi Army general said they killed about 300 in one area they recaptured from ISIS.


19 posted on 06/15/2014 10:54:43 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Enterprise

I heard the ISIS was about 12,000...and the Iraqi Army general said they killed about 300 in one area they recaptured from ISIS.


20 posted on 06/15/2014 10:54:43 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: justa-hairyape

That is correct.


21 posted on 06/15/2014 10:55:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Fitzy_888

Looks like their “new arsenal” is mostly a bunch of pickup trucks.


22 posted on 06/15/2014 11:56:07 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Kackikat

Thanks. I though5 5,000 was pretty small considering the area they had to cover and the numbers they faced. Well, 300 down, 11,700 to go.


23 posted on 06/15/2014 1:17:47 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Fitzy_888
"They just created the largest Islamic fundamentalist state in the world, why risk losing it trying to conquer majority Shiite areas."

It will be amazing if they can hold on to what they took. It's possible that they will face battles with Syria, Iraq, the Kurds and possibly even Iran now, with an occasional sprinkling of American air strikes.

24 posted on 06/15/2014 1:26:53 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I would like to take this opportunity to "revise and extend my remarks." While I wished to believe that ISIS was stopped, breaking news now is that Baghdad is under attack and sleeper cells have been activated. Wait for the breaking video of Americans being lifted from the roof of the American Embassy.

US evacuates Baghdad embassy as brutal ISIS forces advance ... [Breaking!]

Reports: Explosions in Baghdad's Green Zone

Breaking news update! Iraqis shut down internet at U.S. Embassy in Baghdad

"A three word text was released from inside the Embassy about six hours ago: “Too late Alamo.” That message is open to interpretation."

25 posted on 06/15/2014 4:01:14 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3168087/posts


26 posted on 06/15/2014 4:03:37 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

“Too Late Alamo.” These words are going to echo through what is left of American History.


27 posted on 06/15/2014 4:19:15 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

O Drama should have made an attempt with Milieki to work toward a better solution than just pulling out. After a trillion dollars of restoration and reconstruction the base for success was there, and a decent election...there is nothing more we should do at this point.

What happens in the future will determine if we should do more than some air support/drones that co ordinates with Britain’s SOS intelligence that has volunteered to steer the Iraqi Army Generals to defeat the insurgency, if their fighters commit to win.


28 posted on 06/15/2014 4:30:31 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
"O Drama should have made an attempt with Milieki to work toward a better solution than just pulling out."

It all depends on what Valerie Jarrett told him to do. /s

There is so much Obama could have done so many times to stop a problem. He has consistently chosen the worst course of action. This seems to be no different.

29 posted on 06/15/2014 4:36:22 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

I saw on Fox that Susan Rice was briefing him...Oh My.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 4:39:52 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Susan Rice briefing Obama - FACEPALM!


31 posted on 06/15/2014 4:42:50 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
It will be amazing if they can hold on to what they took. It's possible that they will face battles with Syria, Iraq, the Kurds and possibly even Iran now, with an occasional sprinkling of American air strikes.

Aren't they in the desert? Why can't we just blow them up every time they move?

32 posted on 06/15/2014 5:57:14 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (June IS "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I would then expect to see large piles of dead militants,

Actually no, Obama and the UN would be calling for a
cease fire and dialogue...


33 posted on 06/15/2014 5:59:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bert

If the GCC is involved, what is to keep them from invading Iraq from the south then turning east and taking out Iran. Why wait for Iran to have Nukes?


34 posted on 06/15/2014 7:42:32 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

I’m not a rocket surgeon but.....

They don’t need to invade Iraq from the south. The goal apparently is to partition, to reorganize the geography along Islamic denominational lines, to undo the artificial lines drawn to create Syria and Iraq. The objective is being obtained by invading Iraq from the north.

Recall if you will, that initially there was a coalition including America, GCC, and Turkey supporting the opposition to Assad. The HQ was in Turkey, just over the Syrian border. Obama dropped out. What we are now seeing is the apparent solution developed by Turkey/GCC to the Syrian problem and the Sunni/Shia schism in Iraq.

By eliminating Assad’s Syria they have significantly contained Iran. Syria is the source of supply to Hamas and to Hezbollah. Then there is another and I must confess completely unimagined strategy, remove the Iraqi Sunni territory from Maliki/Shia control. In so doing, any strengthened relations between Maliki/Iran is weakened considerably.

I consider Turkey to be a very significant player in the current events. Like the GCC though they play their cards close and don’t announce in advance what they are doing.

Regarding the nucs, what we have seen is that the nuc program can be set back or seriously delayed by means other than bombing from the air. We don’t know who did it and don’t know what we don’t know about derailing the nuc program beyond what is in the news.

Then there is Egypt...... The Turkey/GCC coalition was not happy with the brotherhood..... they backed the Egyptian money interests and military and cleaned up the mess. They don’t seem likely to allow a similar uncontained situation to develop in the new Iraq/Syria area.

History is a process, not an event...... the process began with the extirmination of Saddam. We are witness to significant historical change


35 posted on 06/16/2014 4:27:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

You have space doctor written all over you! ;D).


36 posted on 06/16/2014 8:14:26 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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