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Graham to GOP: Don't be 'delusional' about immigration reform
The Hill ^ | June 15 2014 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 06/15/2014 10:53:29 AM PDT by PoloSec

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) offered a pointed rebuttal Sunday to strategists and pundits who say embracing immigration reform will put GOP incumbents at risk in future primaries.

Graham said if Republicans let the status quo stand and hope illegal immigrants leave the United States because of poor conditions, they will obliterate their chances of winning the White House in two years.

“If we keep playing this game that self deportation is the only answer for the Republican Party, we will have destroyed our chances in 2016 and dealt a death blow to our party because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Media pundits and conservative strategists have declared immigration reform in 2014 dead in the wake of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s (R-Va.) shocking primary loss last week.

“It was a matter of immigration. It’s ridiculous that people are saying, “Immigration wasn’t an issue.’ It was the main issue in the race,” said William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard, on ABC’s “This Week.”

But Graham, a co-author of comprehensive immigration reform bill that passed the Senate, warned his party not to be “delusional” about the need for the House to act on the issue as well.

“If we become the party of self deportation, if that again is our position in 2016, we’re going to drive a deep wedge between us and Hispanics,” he said on CBS.

In contrast to Cantor, Graham defeated a crowded field of conservative challengers Tuesday and avoided a runoff in South Carolina, a state considered more conservative than Virginia.

Proponents of immigration reform have pointed to Graham’s victory as evidence that Cantor’s defeat at the hands of economics professor Dave Brat, who campaigned extensively on illegal immigration, isn’t a message to the GOP from its conservative base to oppose comprehensive reform.

Graham on Sunday renewed his call for reform, including a pathway to citizenship for an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.

“A pathway to citizenship, after you secure the border, control who gets a job, more legal immigrations where they have to pass a criminal background check, learn the English language, wait 10 years before you can apply for a green card," he said.

"If you solve the immigration problem in a good, American, responsible way, our party's back in the game and we can dominate the 21st century," he added.


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1 posted on 06/15/2014 10:53:29 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Corporatist hack.


2 posted on 06/15/2014 10:55:58 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: PoloSec

Just more b.s. We do not have enough jobs for our own legal residents.

Enforce e-verify. Make fines bigger and the greedy will comply.


3 posted on 06/15/2014 10:57:14 AM PDT by amihow
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To: PoloSec

Didn’t take the Amazing Kreskin to predict this hard left turn right after he survived his primary.


4 posted on 06/15/2014 10:57:23 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: PoloSec

FULG!! Traitor!! Enforce the law!!


5 posted on 06/15/2014 10:58:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: PoloSec

Who’s playing games with whose lives, Lindseed?


6 posted on 06/15/2014 10:59:05 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: PoloSec

Didn’t take Linda long after his primary to get back on-message.


7 posted on 06/15/2014 10:59:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: PoloSec

He’s a moron! First even if we don’t deport the ones who are here we sure as hell shouldn’t reward them, second is the absolute idiocy of those like him refusing to recognize that not securing the border and enforcing the existing laws only encourages more illegal immigration and leaching off of legal Americans. Linda, Linda, Linda FOAD with extreme prejudice!


8 posted on 06/15/2014 11:01:32 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: PoloSec
“If we keep playing this game that self deportation is the only answer for the Republican Party, we will have destroyed our chances in 2016 and dealt a death blow to our party because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

And when did America's white people vote to become a minority? Oh that's right they didn't, their corrupt, shortsighted elected officials did.

9 posted on 06/15/2014 11:03:32 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: PoloSec; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; G.Love; ...
linda sez:
“If we keep playing this game that self deportation is the only answer for the Republican Party, we will have destroyed our chances in 2016 and dealt a death blow to our party because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Has anybody here ever thought self deportation is the answer? Not me. I think a border wall (not a fence) and a strong E-Verify program will stop at least 90% of it.

Hey linda, THIS is a border wall:


Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.


10 posted on 06/15/2014 11:04:18 AM PDT by upchuck (... honesty is the never-ending rehearsal for those who want to be the friends of God...)
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To: headstamp 2
Cantor lost in a small eletorate segment with only one opponent. Graham won in an entire state, with 5 or so others splitting the conservative vote.--A real shame!

There can be no immigration reform until the border is secured, illegals are disallowed freebies, and we have an administration that obeys the law instead of ignoring it or rewriting it.

vsdine

11 posted on 06/15/2014 11:04:31 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: PoloSec
“If we keep playing this game that self deportation is the only answer for the Republican Party,

The game being played is being played by people like Lindsay and Juan and many other RINOS: a game of pretend that groups already voting 70% Dim will somehow, if millions of new folks are added to those groups, that they will somehow start voting Republican. Even more idiotic since polls show that newer arrivals favor the Dims' big government by closer to 80%.

12 posted on 06/15/2014 11:05:36 AM PDT by Will88
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To: PoloSec

Any politician who suggests “immigration reform” (ie: amnesty) gets the political kiss of death. If you vote for it, pack up your sorry politician ass, and move to mexico, you are finished in the US. And for all of the bleeding heart “migrant” and the “just doing the jobs Americans won’t do” crowd: lose your illegal labor, or deal with some serious prison time, because you ARE the problem, and you will be dealt with, along with your illegal employees.


13 posted on 06/15/2014 11:06:18 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: amihow

Just more b.s. We do not have enough jobs for our own legal residents.

Exactly. this is the key point. it cannot be repeated enough


14 posted on 06/15/2014 11:06:38 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: PoloSec
What message to Hispanics does Graham think the House rejecting a Puerto Rican for Majority leader would send?

Does Graham think that rejecting Rep. Raul Labrador would undermine any message that immigration reform might send to Hispanics about how the GOP truly feels about Hispanics?

-PJ

15 posted on 06/15/2014 11:09:15 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: PoloSec

“After you secure the border”???? Are they kidding. Now children arriving by the hundreds each day and they just pretend it isn’t even there. I detest these jerks, both parties.


16 posted on 06/15/2014 11:11:49 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: PoloSec

If we don’t cave on amnesty, we will lose in 2016?


17 posted on 06/15/2014 11:12:04 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: PoloSec

Really like to thank the dimbulbs of South Carolina for inflicting this fatuous clown on us once again.

They had real choices but put this bozo back in place.

Republicans?

Nah. Just Blue Dog Democrats.

Guess he’s got them calibrated.


19 posted on 06/15/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: headstamp 2
by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian

He acts like there is nothing he or anyone can do to stop this, which is ridiculous.

The question remains how much cultural dilution should we tolerate? Do we really need these people? Ever immigrant--be they legal or illegal--has a net cost. Yes, even legal immigrants under our current system end up costing us tax payer dollars. At that point, why even have immigration?

Moreover, how much of our open space are we just going to bulldoze in the name of population expansion?
20 posted on 06/15/2014 11:14:02 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: amihow

This is evidently what the Republicans in South Carolina wanted. Woohoo! Lindsay the dreamboat candidate!


21 posted on 06/15/2014 11:15:45 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: PoloSec

You lock down the border tight and let us see how that works first. Secondly enforce the laws and deport people who are here illegally. Then after that ... “We’ll talk.”


22 posted on 06/15/2014 11:17:12 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: PoloSec

“because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian,”

Spoken like a true political whore along for the ride. Republicans are the party of managed decline.


23 posted on 06/15/2014 11:18:03 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: PoloSec

Linda moves back to the left.


24 posted on 06/15/2014 11:25:34 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: PoloSec
“If we keep playing this game that self deportation is the only answer for the Republican Party, we will have destroyed our chances in 2016 and dealt a death blow to our party because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Who ever said, "self deportation is the only answer for the Republican Party"? And how would it follow that, "we will have destroyed our chances in 2016 and dealt a death blow to our party because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian"? There are as many nationally prominent Hispanic and Asian politicians who are Republican as Democrats.

A straw man argument followed by non sequiturs. Who taught this doofus logic? Obama?

25 posted on 06/15/2014 11:28:30 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: PoloSec

The liberal definition of multiculturalism:

1. Immigrants (legal and illegal) are encouraged to maintain
their culture, language, identity.

2. Americans are supposed to “celebrate” this diversity by
giving up their culture, identity.

3. If Americans complain, it is only because they are racist,
and as George W. Bush said at Ford’s funeral, there is
noting worse than racism.


26 posted on 06/15/2014 11:39:38 AM PDT by odawg
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To: amihow

A now very nonfree market is heaving in its death convulsions. It probably IS some sort of near term gain to bring in these folks. The way the dust settles is another question.


27 posted on 06/15/2014 11:43:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: PoloSec
Has it EVER dawned on ANY of these brilliant thinkers that the ONLY solution is ENFORCING EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS and SECURING the BORDER.
28 posted on 06/15/2014 11:43:16 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: PoloSec

Good grief,,the status quo is not hoping immigrants will leave on their own..my goodness. The status quo is housing homeless illegals on our military bases. This is what Graham is for?

Those against Graham should be very clear they are advocating for the enforcement of current immigration laws.

Graham is lost. Completely lost.


29 posted on 06/15/2014 11:43:43 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: PoloSec

“...we will have destroyed our chances in 2016 and dealt a death blow to our party because by 2050 the majority of the country is going to be African American, Hispanic and Asian,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

The black members of the 47% are here to stay. But we CAN — and MUST do something about those HERE ILLEGALLY or the entire culture here will be unalterably changed for the worse. The vast majority of these people will be Democrat voters if only for the free chit they’ll be promised.

And that will go on until the few remaining producers either leave, die off or just give up and the entire scam comes screeching to a halt. And THAT will be when the RIOTS and SOCIAL COLLAPSE start and America — the IDEA the Founders sought to leave us — joins all the others on the ash heap of history!


30 posted on 06/15/2014 11:45:05 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: PoloSec
Linda, just like Eric Cantor, gives the middle finger to his state's constituents.

Whose votes does he expected to win over with Amnesty?

The MSM for sure, but no registered voters. ..he's delusional.

31 posted on 06/15/2014 11:46:44 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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...after you seal the border....”.

Anyone catch that? He said it. Tucked in his to-do list was “..after you seal the border... “. THAT is how he sold himself to South Carolina.

So, why don’t Establishment Republicrats pound that point home? They never give light of day to our current border law that is being expressly ignored, and to such an extent as to be easily impeachable.

They never discuss enforcement of current law, or of sealing the border. All we hear about is who gets amnesty.


32 posted on 06/15/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: PoloSec

Thankfully he’s POWERLESS, at least for now.


33 posted on 06/15/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by BobL
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To: umgud
No, but if the Pubbies do cave, they will lose forever. Limbaugh is spot on when he says the whole push for amnesty is to ensure permanent 'Rat victory. Bring in millions of diseased, uneducated, unskilled criminals who have no loyalty to our Republic, and owe everything to the Commies, and they will vote for the Commies. They'll destroy the Republic, and make it look legitimate.

Like so many other issues, the fate of our Republic teeters on this. We can either quit caving, quit shutting up, start fighting back and secure the borders, or resign ourselves to a FEMA camp and/or a bloody nightmare.

No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

34 posted on 06/15/2014 12:03:24 PM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: PoloSec

The open borders Republicans are delusional if they think that amnesty is going to endear them to the illegals. The illegals will continue to vote their way into the pocketbooks of the people who are here legally.


35 posted on 06/15/2014 12:03:32 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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“If we become the party of self deportation, if that again is our position in 2016, we’re going to drive a deep wedge between us and Hispanics,” he said on CBS.

Good. Maybe then they'll go back home where they belong.

36 posted on 06/15/2014 12:15:28 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Didn’t take the Amazing Kreskin to predict this hard left turn right after he survived his primary.

Right, but I would still love for someone from FOX or even a local journalist to go and ask voters of Linda Graham if they are happy they voted for him or if they realized they could have voted him out by voting for any one of the 6 other candidates as it would have went to a run-off, or if they are as dumb as those people you usually see interviewed on Jay Leno in those Jaywalking segments.

37 posted on 06/15/2014 12:35:39 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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Hey, Lindsey... There’s already a huge wedge between the GOP and Hispanics. And, as long as we continue to allow ANYONE to break the law as their first action on arrival in the US, we will NEVER be a party of ‘law and order’.
Even amnesty will not appreciably increase the hispanic vote for conservatives. These folks are here for what they can get from the gubmint, like all LIBTARDS.

Pull your head out of your 3-point of contact and DO THE RIGHT THINGS.

1. Secure the border. Really.
2. Criminalize the knowing use of illegals in employment.
3. Require proof of citizenship to receive fedgov largesse of any sort.
4. Provide buses to the South and North, and planes from to the East and West to get these folks back from where they came.

Stop the stupid shenanigans, you a$$clown. Amnesty is a NO WIN solution.


38 posted on 06/15/2014 12:40:20 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: PoloSec

FOAD...


39 posted on 06/15/2014 12:59:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PoloSec

Why couldn’t this guy have gotten beat...oh, another 6 years of this...


40 posted on 06/15/2014 1:13:16 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No way ypu would want amnesty for even short term gains if you cared about your fellow legal American residents. Shame on you


41 posted on 06/15/2014 1:15:59 PM PDT by amihow
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No way ypu would want amnesty for even short term gains if you cared about your fellow legal American residents. Shame on you


42 posted on 06/15/2014 1:16:59 PM PDT by amihow
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To: PoloSec

ExCTCitizen to Graham: FULG.


43 posted on 06/15/2014 1:20:59 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: PoloSec

Shaddup Grahamnesty, you worthless DemocRat.


44 posted on 06/15/2014 1:56:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: PoloSec
Lindsey won 56% of the GOP voters, if he actually did--and it wasn't crossover votes courtesy of Fowler and Harpootlian, who like Lindsey in office.

That means 44% voted against him in a *primary*--

I'm thinking he isn't any kind of a shoo-in for Senate in 14.

45 posted on 06/15/2014 2:18:17 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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“Graham said if Republicans let the status quo stand and hope illegal immigrants leave the United States because of poor conditions, they will obliterate their chances of winning the White House in two years.”

This is a setup. The Republican establishment is determined to run another corporatist socialist (Romney, Jeb Bush, or Christie) in 2016. If conservatives block amnesty, when the establishment candidate loses the 2016 election, the GOPe will blame conservatives for blocking immigration reform.

If they are successful in collaborating to ram amnesty through during the summer or lame duck session after the elections, the GOPe will claim the RINO loss in 2016 is due to conservatives staying home to punish the party.

Beyond 2016 the demographic tide will make it impossible for the GOP to win.


46 posted on 06/15/2014 3:36:42 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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