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Milwaukee police no longer shooting as many dogs, thanks in part to training
Pioneer Press ^ | 6-14-14 | Dinesh Ramde

Posted on 06/15/2014 4:58:51 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

MILWAUKEE -- Jane Flint was at work when a friend called and warned her that Milwaukee police were about to search her home for endangered reptiles. She rushed home to keep her four boisterous dogs from interfering with police, but before she arrived, officers shot and killed two of the Tibetan mastiffs. She has never been told why.

Milwaukee police shoot and kill dozens of dogs each year, often saying the animals appeared to be a threat to officers or to the public. But in response to criticism and two lawsuits, police have been able to reduce that number with improved training, which began in 2012 and expands this fall. The sessions teach officers to recognize when dogs' actions are nonthreatening or when less-lethal defense might be more effective.

Michael Tobin, the executive director of the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, said police are eager to improve how officers interact with dogs. Even one dog shooting generates so much outrage that it can take years to repair the damage to community relations, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: dogs; donutwatch; police

1 posted on 06/15/2014 4:58:51 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni
What a pathetic headline!

Police not shooting as many dogs

We are supposed to be thankful for THAT?

2 posted on 06/15/2014 5:01:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

So, what are they going to shoot more of in order to compensate?


3 posted on 06/15/2014 5:02:56 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I'm getting training on how not to cannibalize my relatives.

Some people think that's innate, but it's not.

4 posted on 06/15/2014 5:03:12 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni
...and warned her that Milwaukee police were about to search her home for endangered reptiles.

If somebody had reported that she was keeping illegal aliens in her home, the fuzz would have just yawned and hung up. I get tired of this phony baloney BS. "Endangered reptiles" my @$$.

5 posted on 06/15/2014 5:03:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

Computer Hope

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

6 posted on 06/15/2014 5:03:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Years ago I did fence work on residential homes. I was in the backyards of hundreds of homes with dogs. If you know how to deal with them it is not a problem. I never had to shoot any of them.


7 posted on 06/15/2014 5:04:14 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: NewHampshireDuo

8 posted on 06/15/2014 5:10:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: TurboZamboni

LOL. What’s best in your family, arms or legs?


9 posted on 06/15/2014 5:10:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Joe 6-pack

We also need a “Jack-Booted Thug” ping list. This is what US police have been morphing into over the last ten years.
Too many “Get on the ground, get on the ground NOW”, as seen in the movies and TV dramas.


10 posted on 06/15/2014 5:13:10 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW; Joe 6-pack; null and void

Nully has the jbt ping list, but the people on it are jbt supporters


11 posted on 06/15/2014 5:30:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ear with fava beans.


12 posted on 06/15/2014 5:36:50 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: AlexW

‘This is what US police have been morphing into over the last ten years.’

This started back in the mid-1960s with the first SWAT unit in Philthadelphia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT


13 posted on 06/15/2014 5:37:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s not a ‘sanctuary city’ for dogs.


14 posted on 06/15/2014 5:41:16 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Special weapons and tactics.
Using weapons and tactics that rode the special short bus to remedial classes because they were precious special little snowflakes.
/ kidding.


15 posted on 06/15/2014 5:42:31 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare; AlexW

No longer the case; some of us asked to be added so we could keep up with JBT atrocities.


16 posted on 06/15/2014 5:48:09 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; AlexW

Naaah.
I see!
*pets lazy angora*
The plan moves along nicely then!
*Bond villain laugh*


17 posted on 06/15/2014 5:50:37 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
So, what are they going to shoot more of in order to compensate?

People, like in post 8.

18 posted on 06/15/2014 5:51:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: TurboZamboni

teach officers to recognize when dogs’ actions are nonthreatening

This begs the question; how stupid are the people Milwaukee is hiring to be cops?


19 posted on 06/15/2014 5:52:34 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: AlexW
Jack-Booted Thug

The libs have militarized the police in preparation for having to keep the “subjects” in their places.

20 posted on 06/15/2014 5:55:38 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: TurboZamboni
Tibetan mastiffs.

I'm not surprised she sued. These dogs go for a couple thousand apiece. Their fur is like cashmere. Amazing dogs.

21 posted on 06/15/2014 5:56:53 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: TurboZamboni
thanks in part to training

and probably attrition.

22 posted on 06/15/2014 6:12:42 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TurboZamboni

It take special training for Milwaukee cops NOT to shoot dogs? What am I missing here?


23 posted on 06/15/2014 6:24:53 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: TurboZamboni
Some dogs just beg to be shot.


24 posted on 06/15/2014 6:33:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: AlexW

“We also need a “Jack-Booted Thug” ping list.”

There is (or at least there used to be) a website called “Rate Your Cop.” The one time I looked at it, there were some real “interesting” comments.


25 posted on 06/15/2014 6:58:30 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: TurboZamboni

Perhaps some day the police will graduate to petting the dogs or offering them treats


26 posted on 06/15/2014 6:59:49 PM PDT by woofie
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To: vette6387

“There is (or at least there used to be) a website called “Rate Your Cop.””
_______________________________
I did a search “rate your cop”. I had a number of returns for various police rating sites. I sampled just a few, and the general tone is that cops everywhere are becoming thugs.


27 posted on 06/15/2014 7:13:37 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: TurboZamboni

I worked as a courier for two years. During that time I was confronted by at least a dozen dogs. When a dog rushed at me barking I would freeze. In almost every case the dogs advanced only so far and then stopped. In one or two cases, when I was menaced further, the owner appeared to call the dogs back. I was unarmed but escaped all of these incidents unscathed. An armed policeman would probably have killed 3 or 4 of these dogs.


28 posted on 06/15/2014 7:20:04 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: TurboZamboni

How do they train them? Shock collars?


29 posted on 06/15/2014 7:27:21 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Hate to say it but my dogs are my alarm. They get shot I know it is time to shoot.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 7:37:05 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: luvbach1

I delivered pizza as a kid. Got jumped by a Doberman once. Poor guy was just doin his job. His mom was old and slow. He bit my leg and it hurt pretty good. I gave him the meatlovers and we were cool after that. I did tell his old lady to kiss my butt if she had a problem with me giving up the goods.


31 posted on 06/15/2014 7:41:20 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Darksheare; AlexW; Joe 6-pack; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; ...
Nully has the jbt ping list, but the people on it are jbt supporters

Not any more! Now there are more decent concerned citizens than supporters since I opened the list to all.

Besides, for some reason many supporters have demanded that I remove them from the list or else!

Go figure!

JBT Ping list


(Police doggy style...)

(First post on the Mac at the new digs!)

32 posted on 06/15/2014 9:38:33 PM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: null and void

Lol!


33 posted on 06/15/2014 9:41:27 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It’s a start. Others have commented in the past that cops should learn more about canine body language so they understand better what’s really threatening, and it’s working.

It’s not a complete fix by any means, but it’s still a point where things are better than they were.

Take what you can get while working for more, don’t throw it back for not being good enough all at once.


34 posted on 06/15/2014 11:54:29 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: Darksheare

Darksheare, you is a *bad* puddytat!


35 posted on 06/16/2014 12:08:30 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: logic101.net

The police actively weed out candidates that are too smart. No bull.


36 posted on 06/16/2014 12:11:54 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

You only just noticed this?
The eye patch, the cat with an eye patch, the henchmen.
It was all there!


37 posted on 06/16/2014 12:19:09 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: logic101.net

They know the dogs actions are nonthreatening.

They shoot dogs because they like to shoot dogs, the same way a cruel boy might pull the wings off of a fly.


38 posted on 06/16/2014 8:59:05 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: TurboZamboni; ProtectOurFreedom

Crunchy!


39 posted on 06/16/2014 11:19:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: null and void

Hi Nully! Hope your new job is going great. ;-)


40 posted on 06/16/2014 11:30:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
Not sure whether to be thankful or to cry...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

41 posted on 06/16/2014 6:15:24 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Altariel

Hey, I used to pull wings off flys. What are you trying to say here?


42 posted on 06/16/2014 8:10:55 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: TheOldLady

It is, thanks!


43 posted on 06/16/2014 9:28:08 PM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: logic101.net

I believe you understand the connection between the two actions.


44 posted on 06/17/2014 9:36:35 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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