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U.S. healthcare ranks last among 11 developed nations, report says
LATimes ^

Posted on 06/16/2014 12:23:58 PM PDT by chessplayer

Despite having the costliest care, the U.S. ranks last among 11 industrialized countries on healthcare quality and access, according to a new report.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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So much for the "miracle" of o-care.
1 posted on 06/16/2014 12:23:58 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

It’s probably true....if they have included the VA.


2 posted on 06/16/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: chessplayer

someone! please tell the hordes besieging our borders and hospital ERs


3 posted on 06/16/2014 12:27:25 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: chessplayer

The bad news is, it’s about to get worse. We’re headed for the bottom of the undeveloped nations list too.


4 posted on 06/16/2014 12:28:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: chessplayer

Notice the report says “quality and ACCESS.”

100% guarentee we are No.1 in “quality” alone.

WTF- If you count access, of course we are not high on the list when the other countries are all socialized, single-payer.

THIS IS A NEWS HEADLINE.

Talk about trying to shape idiot Americans’ perceptions. Ugg, what a dirty trick.


5 posted on 06/16/2014 12:29:03 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: chessplayer
I call BS.

The Commonwealth Fund who did this report.

The Commonwealth Fund is a private foundation that aims to promote a high performing health care system that achieves better access, improved quality, and greater efficiency, particularly for society's most vulnerable, including low-income people, the uninsured, minority Americans, young children, and elderly adults.

6 posted on 06/16/2014 12:30:02 PM PDT by A message
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Ocare is ruining access.


7 posted on 06/16/2014 12:31:02 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Notice the report says “quality and ACCESS.”

Good catch ...

This is from the leftists at LA Times ... count on one thing: THEY'RE LYING TO YOU.

8 posted on 06/16/2014 12:32:12 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: chessplayer

Consider the source and take this with a grain of salt. Also, all of the British papers are listed as easy links on the lower left side of Drudge. One horror story after another about their crappy socialized health care. Yet in this article about how bad the US is we find:

“The U.S. spent $8,508 per person on healthcare in 2011 compared with $3,406 in the United Kingdom.”

And they got what they paid for!

Not to mention that the article shills that the “affordable care act” will do some good. That alone ought to tell you it is horse manure.


9 posted on 06/16/2014 12:32:32 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: chessplayer

Look under the covers, and you will undoubtedly find that the survey finds we are insufficiently SOCIALIST.


10 posted on 06/16/2014 12:34:51 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: chessplayer

They need to explain why people from all over the world come here for health care.


11 posted on 06/16/2014 12:35:02 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: chessplayer
ABC radio news made it clear this ranking was done before the marvelous benefits of the ACA will be felt. Implying of course that Obama has already fixed all of our problems.

Of course everyone with higher than a 50 IQ understands that adding layer upon layer of red tape administered by lard assed government bureaucrats from far flung capitals will degrade the quality of healthcare dramatically.

But no one at ABC has a higher than 50 IQ, apparently.

12 posted on 06/16/2014 12:35:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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My thoughts as well. UK pays less than we do because so much is included in the additional taxes. Other than these two, only four other countries were mentioned: Switzerland, France, Sweden, Canada.

That accounts for six of the 11. Why did they cherry-pick only 11? Who were the other five and why doesn't the scribe of this piece care to mention them?

I'm willing to bet that none of the other 10 countries are as diverse and welcoming to illegal aliens as we are.

13 posted on 06/16/2014 12:35:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What can you expect when the bulk of our immigrants are either illegal, uneducated, hate America and come from a 3rd world background.


14 posted on 06/16/2014 12:37:34 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: chessplayer

Seriously, look at what the LA Times reported: that health care in the UK is number one! Yeah, in a pig’s eye it is. It’s health care is barely third world, and parts are fourth world.

The Commonwealth Fund, who did the survey, as reported by The Weekly Standard:

(2010) “The Commonwealth Fund, a liberal think tank headed by a former Democratic staffer, leads the effort (for Obamacare).

“Typical of the Commonwealth Fund is a recent study claiming that the U.S. health care system ranks last when compared with seven industrialized countries. It’s just the latest in a string of policy studies from organizations that want to see a European-style, government-run health care system brought to these shores. Democratic politicians and their allies then use those studies to bolster the case for dramatic reforms.”


15 posted on 06/16/2014 12:38:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: chessplayer

Then why do world leaders come here for treatment?


16 posted on 06/16/2014 12:44:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Daveinyork

Of course it is true!

After all, what did you think Obama meant when he promised in 2009 to “Fundamentally transform the United States of America?”


17 posted on 06/16/2014 12:44:34 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Daveinyork

It’s probably true....if they have included the VA.

*********

Government ‘healthcare’ is on display in three areas:

VA

Federal Bureau of Prisons

Indian reservations

‘Nuff said.


18 posted on 06/16/2014 12:58:44 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Happier than a Svoboda skinhead with a free armband.)
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To: chessplayer
The problem with studies like this is that countries differ in how they report things. Take infant mortality as an example. The United States reports everything. Most countries do not. Even a modern country like France will not report babies who die within three days as being born.

The only thing you can conclude from studies like this is that the United States is the most complete and transparent country in the world with regards to healthcare.

19 posted on 06/16/2014 1:01:20 PM PDT by thejokker
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
If I need an MRI for ANY reason, I have at least a half dozen facilities within a 10 mile radius to choose from and I can get in and have it done within a week. The only one I had done was due to an injured shoulder playing softball and I had it done 4 days after making the appointment.

About 20 years ago myself and some friends took the train from Winsor to Toronto to see Phantom of the Opera. While on the train, I talked with a Canadian lady who said she was going to Toronto to have a CT scan that had been scheduled 10 months prior............

Every time I talk to a liberal jackass who makes the claim that Canada's healthcare system is superior to ours, I point out the following statistic........And it should be noted that if the non life threatening injury was similar to mine, you can bet the wait time in Canada will be well over the 63 day average.....

Ontario leads the country in CT & MRI wait times reductionsOAKVILLE, ON, June 12, 2013 /CNW/

"Less than 10 years ago CT wait lists were 8-12 months long versus today's average of 35 days, and in many cases much less. MRI waits used to be 12-18 months and are now 63 days on average. This dramatic reduction and measurable improvement in patient care came about because the Ontario Ministry of Health listened to the advice of Ontario radiologist experts about how to effect change and provided the necessary tools so that better care was delivered sooner and locally," said Dr. Prieditis.

20 posted on 06/16/2014 1:02:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: chessplayer

This isn’t even a “discussable” topic with a Kardashian’ed populace limited by an 11 second attention span.


21 posted on 06/16/2014 1:08:37 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: chessplayer

These “studies” generally put “free care” as the first, second, and third qualifier on what is meant by quality care.


22 posted on 06/16/2014 1:21:32 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Look at the demographics of the “top 10”.


23 posted on 06/16/2014 1:24:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Here's another true story:

I live in the metro-Detroit area and my brother-in-law is an Oncologist. Back in the mid 90's when my parents were still alive, their closest friends lived in Windsor. Eileen was about 78 years old and her Windsor eye doctor discovered a tumor behind her eye. Unfortunately, she was going to have to wait 6 months before she could get into a hospital to have the tumor removed.

Eileen then contacted my brother-in-law who had her come in to see him and he was then able to arrange the appropriate surgery for her for the following Monday morning.

While the tumor turned out to be benign, it would have continued to grow, causing her to lose the eye long before she could ever get into the hospital........

24 posted on 06/16/2014 1:26:36 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: chessplayer

What kind of access? If you need emergency care, any ER is required to give you initial, lifesaving treatment. Do they mean generic access? of course we are lower, doctors don’t spend 100s of thousands of dollars to give away their care for free. We know they aren’t talking about specialized access, cause the US is one of the best in the world if you need something special, like an MRI or have some rare disease.


25 posted on 06/16/2014 1:51:58 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: NorthMountain

True. . .and no one is turned away for emergency care, private hospital or not.

Imagine the lawsuits if some private hospital turned away someone from their ER and then that person died. . .oboy. . .


26 posted on 06/16/2014 2:16:15 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Seriously, look at what the LA Times reported: that health care in the UK is number one! Yeah, in a pig’s eye it is. It’s health care is barely third world, and parts are fourth world.”

Absolutely true, while in the UK my wife suffered an emergency and REALLY suffered from their delayed, dirty, non-English speaking staff.


27 posted on 06/16/2014 2:18:02 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hot Tabasco

Indeed.

When I went to visit my back doc about some pain I was having, he called the private hospital close by and I was seen 3-hrs later.


28 posted on 06/16/2014 2:21:00 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hot Tabasco

Indeed.

When I went to visit my back doc about some pain I was having, he called the private hospital close by and I was seen 3-hrs later.


29 posted on 06/16/2014 2:21:00 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: FlingWingFlyer

AND THAT, FREEPERS, IS THE OBAMA PLAN


30 posted on 06/16/2014 2:31:08 PM PDT by buffyt (It is not a CHOICE, it is a CHILD OF GOD!)
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To: Vigilanteman; cripplecreek
I'm willing to bet that none of the other 10 countries are as diverse and welcoming to illegal aliens as we are.

Switzerland, France and Sweden are being taken over by the muslim immigration due to their open borders policy. Hoewever bad you may think the U.S. is, theirs is abominable...........

With that being said, they should be posterboys for what is in store for our country......

As a side note, most of the anti-immigration arguments are directed towards the Mexicans who are flooding our southern borders when the reality is that there are equal numbers of muslims, Russians and other eastern block countries who are invading this country.

To give you an example, I play softball with a bunch of seniors in Warren Michigan. This past week there was an annual festival at the park which hosted a typical carnival with the typical rides and ponies.

Yesterday, after we had finished playing, we were socializing at our picnic table when a group of muslims came in to the park. The real muslims who require their women to be fully concealed with their hibabs or whatever the hell they are.

We sat and watched as one family went over to the pony ride and put their daughters on the ponies and watched as the father, complete with his turban, his beard and long night gown and sandals took pictures of his daughters as they were riding.

Why was that noteworthy? Because the daughters were fully gowned and veiled and their faces completely hidden...........WTF?

31 posted on 06/16/2014 3:02:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: chessplayer
...healthcare ranks last...helped along mightily by epidemics of obesity due to our fat-laoded diets, inactivity, and illegitimate births.....
32 posted on 06/16/2014 9:16:01 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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