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Sharyl Attkisson Asks Questions That CBS Isn't Asking About the Suddenly Missing IRS E-mails
newsbusters.org ^ | June 16, 2014 | 12:56 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 06/16/2014 12:31:35 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass

Great questions which contrasts sharply with the CBS online report:

WASHINGTON - The Internal Revenue Service says it has lost a trove of emails to and from a central figure in the agency's tea party controversy. The IRS told congressional investigators Friday it cannot locate many of Lois Lerner's emails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed that year. Lerner headed the IRS division that processed applications for tax-exempt status.

...The IRS was able to generate 24,000 Lerner emails from the 2009 to 2011 because Lerner had copied in other IRS employees. The agency said it pieced together the emails from the computers of 83 other IRS employees.

But an untold number are gone. Camp's office said the missing emails are mainly ones to and from people outside the IRS, "such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: attkisson; crime; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; loislerner; stonewalling; teaparty
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the comments, are good, too!

1 posted on 06/16/2014 12:31:35 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass
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To: skinkinthegrass

Her own actual article is posted though


2 posted on 06/16/2014 12:35:14 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: skinkinthegrass

What does the NSA know, and What does their Meta Data Reveal?


3 posted on 06/16/2014 12:35:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I’m going to do a quick copy/paste of exactly how email is managed and stored across an enterprise. Mostly, cuz I’m lazy and don’t feel like spending hours writing it out....


4 posted on 06/16/2014 12:35:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: skinkinthegrass
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3167859/posts
5 posted on 06/16/2014 12:36:01 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Just because her computer crashed doesn’t mean everything on her hard drive is lost.


6 posted on 06/16/2014 12:37:17 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: skinkinthegrass

They’re recording all our data.

But they don’t record their own?


7 posted on 06/16/2014 12:38:27 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: skinkinthegrass

8 posted on 06/16/2014 12:39:31 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Ah, because HER computer crashed??? No freaking way they are lost unless the server copies are gone. It is utter horsehockey (or intentional incompetence) that only local copies constitute the required archiving of emails.


9 posted on 06/16/2014 12:39:40 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Vendome

I tried to find the IRS sop but ran into “server not found”


10 posted on 06/16/2014 12:40:04 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: skinkinthegrass

When the opposition leaders of the congress have all had spinaldectomies, there is no one to stop them.


11 posted on 06/16/2014 12:40:31 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Just another stall, the servers didn’t crash.

These Obama cronies are criminals. I’m am totally disgusted with Obama and his administration.


12 posted on 06/16/2014 12:40:45 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: FlJoePa

Good questions but, my 1st response is “Forget all that. It didn’t happen”.

Give me Admn to throughout network(not gonna happen) and I can pull every email she ever sent or received....

They are stored in too many places for them to simply disappear and the information that disappeared is way to specific....

They would have lost all her emails or most everything and even that is not possible...


13 posted on 06/16/2014 12:42:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: skinkinthegrass
From the SeeBS report:
But an untold number are gone. Camp's office said the missing emails are mainly ones to and from people outside the IRS, "such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices."
So, just as the IRS was able to reconstruct the internal emails from the recipients computers, those other agencies, in cooperation with the Congressional investigation, can provide copies from their archiving of the recipient's email. Right?
14 posted on 06/16/2014 12:47:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: skinkinthegrass

If a disk failed it would be removed, a new disk installed, and data restored from backup. Why were only these messages not: a) restored, or b) not on backup media?

That’s the simple scenario. In reality the infrastructure for an enterprise of this scale likely has RAIDed disks to ensure fault tolerance, a failed disk will not result in data loss. They may even have fail-over servers to guard against disruption, and store data on a SAN

Lerner is lying.

To prove it subpoena the IT persons responsible for a) the e-mail infrastructure, b) Disaster Recovery, and c) hardware support & maintenance


15 posted on 06/16/2014 12:56:04 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Um....isn’t tampering with/destroying evidence a felony in and of itself?


16 posted on 06/16/2014 12:59:54 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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And oh can’t forget this: imprison Lerner. The House has previously imprisoned persons who destroyed documents to prevent their production. Spending summer in a cell will give her time to think things over.


17 posted on 06/16/2014 1:02:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Ok, it’s NOT a “tea party” controversy,
it’s an IRS scandal!!!
It’s a regime scandal, among many others but
the most serious and one that reaches high into
the administration, the abuse of government by ANY
party for it’s own political aims should carry the
highest punishment.


18 posted on 06/16/2014 1:02:50 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I saw a tweet earlier that the IRS was also saying now that the backups had been “recycled” - have to look for more on that.


19 posted on 06/16/2014 1:31:14 PM PDT by Tenlein
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To: Tenlein

From the NYT (!) today: “The agency said that because of financial and computing constraints, some emails had been stored only on individuals’ computers and not on servers, and that “backup tapes” from 2011 “no longer exist because they have been recycled.”


20 posted on 06/16/2014 1:35:26 PM PDT by Tenlein
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To: Tenlein

Why wasn’t all data restored on the new drive?


21 posted on 06/16/2014 1:41:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Now it appears Lerner is not the only one in the IRS to be culpable. It is time to pull in the people who are responsible for the servers to testify under oath that her hard drive crash caused these e-mails to be permanently lost.


22 posted on 06/16/2014 1:43:03 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: All
"such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices."

How convenient.
23 posted on 06/16/2014 1:51:16 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Tenlein
“The agency said that because of financial and computing constraints, some emails had been stored only on individuals’ computers and not on servers

bull....my wife's personal email is stored on a server for crying out loud.
24 posted on 06/16/2014 1:52:50 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: NonValueAdded

Lois ROSE MARY WOODS Lehrner


25 posted on 06/16/2014 2:06:04 PM PDT by buffyt (It is not a CHOICE, it is a CHILD OF GOD!)
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To: Vendome

26 posted on 06/16/2014 2:15:45 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: skinkinthegrass

Nope, not a smidgeon of scandal. Nice work, Zero.


27 posted on 06/16/2014 2:16:38 PM PDT by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: skinkinthegrass

The emails can be retrieved.


28 posted on 06/16/2014 2:18:14 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Vendome

I take it you don’t believe the ‘lost’ lie either....


29 posted on 06/16/2014 2:19:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: fulltlt

Email isn’t usually stored on a person’s pc. There are servers and tape backups and regulations requiring organizations to have access to the last seven years worth of records. That her computer crashed and the hard drive was lost is an idiot’s excuse that the sheeple are expected to believe.


30 posted on 06/16/2014 2:21:50 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tenlein

so they ‘recycled’ backups of a server in the middle of an investigation?


31 posted on 06/16/2014 2:26:13 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: GOPJ

I have been in Telecom for 30 years.

It isn’t possible to believe this outrageous lie.


32 posted on 06/16/2014 2:27:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: AD from SpringBay
"Email isn’t usually stored on a person’s pc. ..."

A person's PC is one of the places email is stored. Just because the PC crashed does not mean the email that was on that PC's hard drive is lost. Most likely that isn't the cause of the crash. The most likely cause is caps gone bad on the system board or video card. Most of the time the data on the hard drive of a "crashed" PC can be recovered. I do understand email servers and tape backups also having copies of email archived.

33 posted on 06/16/2014 2:28:38 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: skinkinthegrass

Nothing will be done about this corruption. The victims were Tea Party conservatives, hated by liberals and GOP-e alike, who both are naive enough to think the same cannot happen to them if they don’t toe the line. Anyone who cares has no power to do anything to stop it.


34 posted on 06/16/2014 2:32:49 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Vendome
I have been in Telecom for 30 years. It isn’t possible to believe this outrageous lie.

Liberal elite liars are in luck - the New York Times (and MSM) will send reporters out to the people dems give them as sources... and for some strange reason those people will parrot dem lies on the IRS email question.

35 posted on 06/16/2014 2:57:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: FlJoePa; All
I checked / used search (titles) function.

36 posted on 06/16/2014 5:08:19 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

No problem. It was a different title, and I just wanted to make sure you had the ability to see the conversation there.

I’m not a search/blog mall cop like some here.


37 posted on 06/16/2014 5:12:48 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Hot Tabasco

ping # 15


38 posted on 06/16/2014 5:16:35 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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