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Rubbish: Emails Donít Get Lost
Townhall.com ^ | June 16, 2014 | Shawn Mitchell

Posted on 06/16/2014 12:36:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

Edited on 06/16/2014 9:38:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Emails don't get "lost." Any government official who claims it is a lying abuser. Any reporter who doesn't mock and expose is a presstitute. There needs to be a 21st century version of tar and feathers to humiliate these scoundrels.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: abusingpower; barack0bama; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; loislerner

1 posted on 06/16/2014 12:36:38 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There’s so much redundancy in computer databanks anymore that it’s virtually certain that the computer crash excuse is yet another lie and gesture of contempt by this PUNK we elected as president.


2 posted on 06/16/2014 12:39:20 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

The last company I worked for had a written policy that emails would be automatically, permanently deleted after 30 days. They could not be retrieved no matter how important they were. This was instituted after the Microsoft lawsuit where relatively minor and some major players wrote incredibly stupid and lawsuit supporting statements.


3 posted on 06/16/2014 12:40:19 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: skeeter

What does the NSA know, and What does their Meta Data Reveal?

A Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch is all that is needed.


4 posted on 06/16/2014 12:41:16 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Even if the gov had a policy like that, they likely have a backup tape somewhere that could be pulled.


5 posted on 06/16/2014 12:43:23 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Kaslin

Your Emails have been
“lost”?
That is such a 20th Century type of lie. Whoever cooked up that halfbaked excuse must be somebody about my age, close to 60. The younger folks, and the ‘still-learning-elders’
would know better than to even go through such a ridiculous charade. Try again. Aren’t the American people worth a better lie than that? Or better still, how bout seeking immunity then telling the truth now vs after ten years and four billion in court costs are spent needlessly.


6 posted on 06/16/2014 12:43:54 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Kaslin

HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ALL ARE??????????????


7 posted on 06/16/2014 12:45:19 PM PDT by buffyt (It is not a CHOICE, it is a CHILD OF GOD!)
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To: Kaslin

Well you elect principled people who will prosecute those that lie, cheat and use their authority to subvert. It ain’t rocket surgery.

To expect a group of Charlie Sheens bent on WINNING! no matter what to suddenly give to craps about ‘what’ after being elected is the mentality children have. Fantasy logic.

Want justice served? Stop electing the people that ensure it won’t be. Stop electing the people that go out of their way to drag investigations out for years so a criminal is never held to account.

Stop electing the RINOs. Anyone want to argue against it? Please do. But you have to be pretty foolish to try.


8 posted on 06/16/2014 12:49:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Kaslin
There needs to be a 21st century version of tar and feathers to humiliate these scoundrels.

Why do we need a 21st century version? Is there something wrong with the 18th century version?

9 posted on 06/16/2014 12:49:37 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Gen.Blather

I’ll bet they were referring to emails deleted from email files available on individual workstations, and the emails were still available in some databank if need be.


10 posted on 06/16/2014 12:52:41 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

“I’ll bet they were referring to emails deleted from email files available on individual workstations, and the emails were still available in some databank if need be.”

The stated intention was that they would be unavailable if somebody subpoenaed them. So, I’d bet they were unavailable, period. (Some of the tippy-top management sent around emails that would make you raise your eyebrows and say, “damn, how stupid to put that in writing.” I think that was why they did it, rather than try to train management not to be stupid.)


11 posted on 06/16/2014 12:58:08 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

I should say. That sounds illegal.


12 posted on 06/16/2014 1:00:19 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Gen.Blather

The US Government has a general policy that certain “business” emails cannot be deleted and must be saved in the “electronic archives” for future preservation at the National Archives.

I cannot delete work-related emails eventhough mine are work-product protected. However, we are backed up (in theory every night).

The IRS coverup is the break ISSA and others needed to hold the IRS as an unit in contempt of Congress, if not in Criminal Contempt re destroying government documents under a presentation order.

Time for a federal grand jury to investigate. Only problem is that it would come under the Holder/Cole Dept. of Justice jurisdiction, and they cannot be trusted to wipe their ass properly.

They would comprise the most honest District Attorney and his investigation.

Congress needs to establish a Select Committee on the IRS with every subpoena and punishment power the law allows.

Then make Joe McCarthy look like an amateur.

Do a Sam Ervin/Welch job on the IRS. Down and dirty!


13 posted on 06/16/2014 1:03:42 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: skeeter

“I should say. That sounds illegal.”

We addressed that and the legal department said that as long as that was the written policy and they adhered to it, it was legal. If you don’t keep the records they can’t be subpoenaed. And, given some of the things their tippy-top management committed to bytes I’d rather have a judge smack me for not keeping records and order me to keep them, rather than have a smoking t*rd show up in court. But, I any time I got something that smelled bad, I printed it out and took it home.


14 posted on 06/16/2014 1:04:34 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: MAexile

Maybe thicker tar & different feathers,but it’s hard to improve on a proven formula. I believe it works every time it’s been used,too.


15 posted on 06/16/2014 1:05:02 PM PDT by oldtech
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Subpoena the integrator and find out why it charged the taxpayer millions of dollars for an unreliable system.


16 posted on 06/16/2014 1:08:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Whats really ironic is that, according to my accountant, the IRS’s requirement for small business owners to keep tax records - everything - is almost unlimited.


17 posted on 06/16/2014 1:11:00 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

Uh huh. do so. I bet they even have it being lost on video.


18 posted on 06/16/2014 1:16:32 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Kaslin

Will the IRS be allowed to get away with this?


19 posted on 06/16/2014 1:19:49 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Kaslin

From the NYT article today: “The agency said that because of financial and computing constraints, some emails had been stored only on individuals’ computers and not on servers, and that “backup tapes” from 2011 “no longer exist because they have been recycled.”


20 posted on 06/16/2014 1:34:42 PM PDT by Tenlein
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To: skeeter
Everyone agrees that the emails are not lost and the administration is flat-out lying. But no one seems to have any suggestions about what we can do about it. I have heard not one solution or plan from Congress, Fox News, FR, Twitter, Breitbart, etc., etc.

I don't have a plan or solution either, but is the whole damn country going to just yawn and accept this?

21 posted on 06/16/2014 1:40:41 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Kaslin

Re: “No national Tea Party support for David Brat.”

True - but for a good reason.

For most of the campaign, Brat trailed in all polls by 25%-30%.

Even in the last week, Cantor’s own pollster had Cantor up 10%-15%.

One of the national Tea Party leaders said it would have been completely “irresponsible” for the Tea Party to commit their limited funds to someone who was that far behind.


22 posted on 06/16/2014 1:47:54 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin

You know they have EVERY E-MAIL ANY OF US EVER SENT!


23 posted on 06/16/2014 2:00:09 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Tea Party ‘support’ was in the form of ‘VOTES’... not in the form of cash from elites.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?


24 posted on 06/16/2014 2:05:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: zeestephen
Unlike elite organizations like the RNC or DNC the Tea Party is made up of many individual citizens.

We backed Brat with our votes - not with cash collected from a bunch of elites.

Rick Santelli, Rush Limbaugh and Jim Robinson ARE the spiritual fathers of the Tea Party movement. Ain't none of 'em collecting from 'the Bigs'.

25 posted on 06/16/2014 2:18:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: Kaslin

Every email has two copies...the one in your computer when you send it and the one on the computer it was sent to. C’mon...this is up there with “the dog ate my homework”!!!


26 posted on 06/16/2014 2:50:48 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

The senders & recipients of Lerner email have their copies.

I suggest Congress subpoena ALL IRS related email & let their staff search them for criminal behavior. Relevant evidence will likely be found in days rather than months.

That ought to get their attention.


27 posted on 06/16/2014 3:00:54 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Kaslin
Emails don't get "lost."

First Lois cops the Fifth, then this.

One suspects that when the truth outs (and one suspects that it likely will be), then the email conversations (persons and content) just might be huger than hugely huge.

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29 posted on 06/16/2014 9:22:22 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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