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Obama considers special forces to help in Iraq
Yahoo/AP ^ | 6-16-14 | LARA JAKES and JULIE PACE

Posted on 06/16/2014 2:09:05 PM PDT by kingattax

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is considering sending a small number of American special forces soldiers to Iraq in an urgent attempt to help the government in Baghdad slow the nation's rampant Sunni insurgency, U.S. officials said Monday.

While President Barack Obama has explicitly ruled out putting U.S. troops into direct combat in Iraq, the plan under consideration suggests he would be willing to send Americans into a collapsing security situation for training and other purposes

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baghdad; boots; iraq; isis; obama; specialforces
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1 posted on 06/16/2014 2:09:05 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

In or out Obama. You can’t have it both ways.

FOUR!


2 posted on 06/16/2014 2:10:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kingattax

Obama never passes up an opportunity to get more of our guys killed.


3 posted on 06/16/2014 2:10:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kingattax
...for training and other purposes

Haven't we trained enough of these maniacs already?

4 posted on 06/16/2014 2:11:11 PM PDT by grania
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To: kingattax

A little late for training.


5 posted on 06/16/2014 2:11:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DoughtyOne
In or out Obama. You can’t have it both ways.

Both ways is just how he's going to try to have it. One foot on the dock and one foot in the boat and both on banana peels.

6 posted on 06/16/2014 2:12:17 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: skeeter

Exactly. Send in a small force without support and no matter how well they fight, they will be overwhelmed.


7 posted on 06/16/2014 2:14:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: DoughtyOne

He said “no boots on the ground”. . . he didn’t say ANYTHING about “loafers”. We got any “light in the loafer” special forces units after Zer0 has worked his magic on the military??


8 posted on 06/16/2014 2:14:27 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: skeeter

My thoughts exactly.


9 posted on 06/16/2014 2:14:35 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The forces in Mosul were supposedly “trained” and abandoned their posts so quickly that the French are envious.


10 posted on 06/16/2014 2:15:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: skeeter

look what type he gets to replace them with? his type.


11 posted on 06/16/2014 2:15:44 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: kingattax

Guess he’ll be sending them in barefoot — he did promise “no boots”


12 posted on 06/16/2014 2:15:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: kingattax

Special Forces are the tip of the spear, but they need the whole spear behind them to effective. Even my 6 year old knows that.


13 posted on 06/16/2014 2:17:05 PM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: kingattax

No. Let Allah help them.


14 posted on 06/16/2014 2:17:37 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: kingattax

This is a situation that calls for the war machine fighting capabilities, not squad sized special ops teams.


15 posted on 06/16/2014 2:17:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: kingattax
The troops would fall under the authority of the U.S. ambassador and would not be authorized to engage in combat, another U.S. official said. Their mission is "non-operational training" of both regular and counter terrorism units, which the military has interpreted to mean training on military bases, not in the field, the official said.
16 posted on 06/16/2014 2:18:24 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

it takes skill to write a statement that is accurate, ironic, sad, and funny all at the same time.. *hat tip to you*


17 posted on 06/16/2014 2:18:29 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax

Too bad he outed Seal Team Six after they killed bin Laden, and now most of them are dead. Col. McRaven,their leader, was spared by God for some good purpose. If you haven’t read his remarkable graduation speech at the University of Texas last month, please do.


18 posted on 06/16/2014 2:18:33 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Paine in the Neck

Yeah, that’s about it. He’ll wind up getting a lot of people killed.


19 posted on 06/16/2014 2:19:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kingattax

NO FRIGGIN WAY.
The afghans were shooting the soldiers that were training them in the back, before we pulled out. Why subject our troops to that crap again.
And who do you train. Both sides hate us and want to kill us.
If you are not going in to take the Country, then do not go in..


20 posted on 06/16/2014 2:19:35 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: RatRipper

I shudder to think...


21 posted on 06/16/2014 2:19:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: cll

obozo wouldn’t understand you.

“tip of the spear” means something very different to the queer-in-chief.


22 posted on 06/16/2014 2:21:06 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax

Folks, why do we have drones if they can’t kick the tar out of this ISIS movement? Where are they? We should have some in the region, and their range is supposed to be advanced.

Why not dump some ordinance on some of those convoys?


23 posted on 06/16/2014 2:22:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: grania

Oooh, it’s the nefarious “other purposes” clause. WTF is this C-H-A-O-S speak?

Do our people have legal immunity? If not stay-the-F-out of it.


24 posted on 06/16/2014 2:23:08 PM PDT by Justa
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To: kingattax

Iraqi weapons for sale. Never fired and only dropped once!


25 posted on 06/16/2014 2:23:31 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: txrefugee; All

“Col. McRaven,their leader, was spared by God for some good purpose. If you haven’t read his remarkable graduation speech at the University of Texas last month, please do.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCb2hJLKU1A


26 posted on 06/16/2014 2:24:17 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: cll
Special Forces are the tip of the spear, but they need the whole spear behind them to effective. Even my 6 year old knows that.

Well, just because 6 year olds know better doesn't necessarily mean Barry "marine corpse, never leave a deserter behind, all this for a flag" Obama does also.

27 posted on 06/16/2014 2:24:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kingattax

Okay... You can go but only FOUR of you! and NO GUNS!!!! Got it?


28 posted on 06/16/2014 2:26:59 PM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This is topical.

“The forces in Mosul were supposedly “trained” and abandoned their posts so quickly that the French are envious.”

From what I’ve read commissions were granted through politics and favoritism, not merit. Lacking merit the officers fled at the first sign of the enemy. No officers = dysfunctional units without support. Only a fool would stay behind when their Command and Control as well as their support had abandoned them. They were fixed-in-place and blind, without leadership waiting to be cutoff and killed. But some stayed and fought anyways. And God bless them for that. They died in the service of their country, not their leaders or politicians.

This is a huge indictment on the IA leadership. Heads should roll literally for this. The government now sees first hand the cost of permitting the politicization of the military.


29 posted on 06/16/2014 2:31:10 PM PDT by Justa
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To: DoughtyOne
In or out Obama. You can’t have it both ways.

BUMP

30 posted on 06/16/2014 2:31:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: kingattax

#BringBackOurHeads


31 posted on 06/16/2014 2:32:05 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Cool off, everyone, by special forces he just means that he and Joe Biden are making the trip themselves and will clean things up with their single shot shotguns.


32 posted on 06/16/2014 2:32:35 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: skeeter

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might wonder if he is deliberately trying to get rid of our best and brightest highly skilled forces.

Can’t have them here at home to pose any threats of local insurgency, after all.

Good thing I am not suspicious of his motives, right?


33 posted on 06/16/2014 2:37:33 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own.")
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To: kingattax

Gosh, he must have gotten that idea from his caddie on the golf course.


34 posted on 06/16/2014 2:42:53 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kingattax

Vietnam, anyone?


35 posted on 06/16/2014 2:44:24 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: kingattax; All

Oh great .. lets just waste the rest of our best and brightest for another Obama folly.

We already know Obama is terrified of these super soldiers.


36 posted on 06/16/2014 2:44:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: kingattax

“The president was very clear that we will not be sending U.S. troops back into combat in Iraq,” Hayden said in a statement. “That remains the case and he has asked his national security team to prepare a range of other options that could help support Iraqi security forces.”

So special ops units are not troops. Sounds logical-NOT.


37 posted on 06/16/2014 2:53:36 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: kingattax

Is ISIS the same folks we armed in Syria?

With all the scandals, failures, and dithering of the POTUS, its hard to keep up.


38 posted on 06/16/2014 2:56:44 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: DoughtyOne

He’ll probably write ‘Yes’ and ‘No’ on a couple of golf balls and draw them out of a hat while waiting to start the next round. Or he’ll just defer to Valerie.


39 posted on 06/16/2014 2:56:50 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Kandy Atz

yep. same gang


40 posted on 06/16/2014 2:59:12 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax

Too little too late to save Iraq. All the US lives spent to give Iraq a democracy were sadly in vain as Obama just bugged out and handed the country to Islamic fascists. Ditto for Afghanistan. At this point only massive US air strikes might deter the militants, but without a significant commitment of US troops Iraq is lost thanks to Obama.


41 posted on 06/16/2014 2:59:16 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: kingattax

The time to do the right thing has come and gone.


42 posted on 06/16/2014 2:59:16 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: jacquej
You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to be suspicious of our punk president's motives.

Heaven knows he's given us enough clues concerning who he is.

43 posted on 06/16/2014 3:00:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kingattax

“No Boots On The Ground”,,didn’t King Obama say that a couple of days ago? Then, I called him a liar and said if he says no boots,,there will be boots.

What do you know,,,is anyone shocked?


44 posted on 06/16/2014 3:05:19 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: kingattax

Do some homework. McRaven gives good speech. Good guy he ain’t.


45 posted on 06/16/2014 3:08:42 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: kingattax

Yeah, sure. If successful, they’ll out them later.


46 posted on 06/16/2014 3:10:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Justa
The government now sees first hand the cost of permitting the politicization of the military.

A lesson Obummer should learn, also, but won't.

47 posted on 06/16/2014 3:12:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: kingattax

That would be like trying to put out the sun with a thimble full of water. They need to send in an overwhelming force or none at all.


48 posted on 06/16/2014 3:26:41 PM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: skeeter

- nuke ‘em

- it works...


49 posted on 06/16/2014 3:27:55 PM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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To: macglencoe

Is O Drama trying to kill off our special forces....
unbelieveable incompetence.


50 posted on 06/16/2014 3:29:38 PM PDT by Kackikat
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