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Flashback: George W. Bush Predicted Iraqi Meltdown If US Troops Were Withdrawn from Region
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 6/16/14 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/16/2014 3:07:25 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

Yes, yes, yes, but Comrade Obama knew better than the republican Bush. Everything is Bush’s fault. Comrade Obama know best. Everyone just be quiet and allow him to continue to destroy America. He is doing such a nice job at it. Quieten down now.


21 posted on 06/16/2014 3:46:12 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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2014 isn’t 2007 or 2003 either.
The author overreaches.

For example If we don’t have the intel sources now to tell if Iraq has WMDs we never will.
Likewise we have a large number of “tribal” intel sources both in Iraq and the Afghan so a “9/11” surprise attack frpm those areas is preventable.
And we have influence in events.

Intel was the purpose of those wars. We went overboard on the nation building... but then congress always demands such contribution-opportunities..


22 posted on 06/16/2014 3:53:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: x

Personally I assumed the purpose was to give us a long time presence there, a penetration into the Muslim world.


23 posted on 06/16/2014 3:56:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Nachum
I'm not from the US, but I understand the 22nd amendment. However, I would have to question the term limit for election to the office of President of the United States, especially in recent decades.

Most foreign policy initiated & enacted by a US president cannot be fully accomplished or seen to fruition in 8 years. So long as there is a genuine, robust election process, a president is in good health and people vote for him or her, then they should be able to continue.

Otherwise, a new person will be elected who has a different policy and we see little continuity which at times like this is critical to a successful outcome. Equally, enemies can simply wait until a new player is elected and the entire mix changes.

24 posted on 06/16/2014 4:05:43 PM PDT by odds
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To: Nachum

Did Obama ignore Bush, or did the Community-Organizer-in-Chief believe Bush and that’s why he pulled out? believe


25 posted on 06/16/2014 4:10:42 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: odds
Otherwise, a new person will be elected who has a different policy and we see little continuity which at times like this is critical to a successful outcome. Equally, enemies can simply wait until a new player is elected and the entire mix changes.

Works two ways. It also allows for 4 consecutive years of governance without the turmoil of a parliment losing coalitions and forcing elections in successive years. Much more volatile.

26 posted on 06/16/2014 4:21:20 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: odds

I hope to God that you are NOT suggesting that O’IWon should get more terms in office as our president? Because if you are, IBTZ.


27 posted on 06/16/2014 4:22:43 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Nachum

Not sure if I understand you correctly. I meant maximum two terms, 8 years. That isn’t a long time to embed and see results.


28 posted on 06/16/2014 4:27:16 PM PDT by odds
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To: TheOldLady

I was talking about the article, ie George W Bush.


29 posted on 06/16/2014 4:29:11 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Study up on FDR and you’ll understand why we have a 22nd Amendment.


30 posted on 06/16/2014 4:33:11 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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Why'd he go in, then? Did he expect us to stay there forever?

Remember the argument, fight them on the battlefield over there instead of waiting for them to come over here?

What's happening now? They rebuilt and are still fighting over there, not over here.

Still, they shouldn't have been given the luxury of rebuilding at all.

-PJ

31 posted on 06/16/2014 4:34:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: odds

The whole of the Constitution is inimcal to long term foreign adventures- deliberately.
The 22nd is relatively insignificant in it’s effect.


32 posted on 06/16/2014 4:36:28 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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And though I hate the way things are being handled how long would we have to stay there? They’ve hated each other since 632.

Not our fight and not a position we can win. Sure, we can beat them into submission for just at time but at a high cost and a lot of dollars we don’t have.

We will have to fight them here. No matter what.


33 posted on 06/16/2014 4:43:50 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: mrsmith

Interesting, thanks.


34 posted on 06/16/2014 4:45:04 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Okay! Thank you for the clarification. Had me worried there for a moment. :)


35 posted on 06/16/2014 4:50:23 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Pollster1

Obama doesn’t weigh things like what’s good for the country, what’s good for Iraq, or what’s good for the world. He operates on what the hard core left wants him to Operate, to spite Bush, to spite this Country, and anyone right of Pelosi.


36 posted on 06/16/2014 4:52:56 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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More allies the leftists abandoned to our enemies..

Well, the libs always insisted Iraq was “another Vietnam”

..and Barry has made it so.


37 posted on 06/16/2014 5:00:35 PM PDT by CharleysPride (aut numquid tute es legere me translate)
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To: odds
Not sure if I understand you correctly. I meant maximum two terms, 8 years. That isn’t a long time to embed and see results.

In most countries that have parlimentary systems, it is rare to have prime ministers that serve 8 years. Also, the parlimentary system itself is extraordinarily unstable with new goverments and fringe groups constantly able to cause upheaval. That is one of the pluses of the U.S. system of government is that it governs much more consistently that any other model I have seen world wide.

38 posted on 06/16/2014 5:02:41 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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Why'd he go in, then? Did he expect us to stay there forever?

Do you really think one question has anything to do with the other? Really?

Perhaps you are a liberal who thinks in soundbites instead of syllogisms.

39 posted on 06/16/2014 5:08:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: odds

It might be a fable but reportedly Roosevelt met with the congressional leaders to tell them of the possibilities of research on the atom bomb to end WW2.
The response was from the Senate Leader from Tennessee: “Wonderful news Mr President! Where in Tennessee would you want to build this research facility?”

A more recent example of congress’s power over foreign affairs is the huge, wasteful, partisan spending Pelosi and Reid demanded of Bush for their approval of funding the Iraq “surge”.
We’ve been bankrupt ever since.


40 posted on 06/16/2014 5:08:58 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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