Skip to comments.WHITEHEAD: Has the Dept. of Homeland Security become America’s standing army?
Posted on 06/16/2014 4:02:13 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty.James Madison
Here [in New Mexico], we are moving more toward a national police force. Homeland Security is involved with a lot of little things around town. Somebody in Washington needs to call a timeout.Dan Klein, retired Albuquerque Police Department sergeant
If the United States is a police state, then the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is its national police force, with all the brutality, ineptitude and corruption such a role implies. In fact, although the DHS governmental bureaucracy may at times appear to be inept and bungling, it is ruthlessly efficient when it comes to building what the Founders feared mosta standing army on American soil.
The third largest federal agency behind the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Defense, the DHSwith its 240,000 full-time workers, $61 billion budget and sub-agencies that include the Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection, Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)has been aptly dubbed a runaway train.
In the 12 years since it was established to prevent terrorist attacks within the United States, the DHS has grown from a post-9/11 knee-jerk reaction to a leviathan with tentacles in every aspect of American life. With good reason, a bipartisan bill to provide greater oversight and accountability into the DHS purchasing process has been making its way through Congress.
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Tap on yer shoulder, ping...
I recommend sending THEM to Iraq
Soon the railway cars and large ovens.
They are there to help and protect us... If you’re not doing anything wrong, you don’t have anything to worry about.... TRUST ME
Not to mention all the other militarized government agencies.
Completely averts Posse Comitatus.
Of course. What do you think the real reason was for the Patriot Act? It sure wasn’t to fight Terrorism any more than RICO is to be used only for Organized Crime.
I can hear the leftists screaming “Bush’s fault”.
Well, yeah . . . sure, but once the citizenry has been disarmed and no longer present a threat, don’t you think they’ll downsize again or simply disband?
(I can hear the leftists screaming Bushs fault.)
AND the FReeper before your post!
The liberty or constitutional rights of American citizens are most definitely not the objectives. ( more like: the targets).
But we’re safe. No eighty year old nun with crutches will be able to board a redeye flight to Phoenix wearing RDX panties and detonator disguised as a crucifix.
DHS is a Fascist arm of the US government, but they are not effective army. As long as there is a 2a and massive gun ownership, the DHS loses the numbers game. In PA alone, there are four times as many hunters than all DHS employees. There are many more gun owners. These are the so-called bitter clingers. While metrosexual and androgynous males of cities may surrender to the DHS, real men in the country will not be intimidated by these bumbling fools of the DHS. DHS loses a war on moral grounds. DHS loses a war based on there is nothing to fight for. Real Americans will fight for freedom, liberty and their property and when not constrained by politicians. There isn’t a more effective fighting force in the world. It just needs to be organized.
Ohhh please.. I’m sure Obama doesn’t know ANYTHING about this yet. /s
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
By the way, if the DHS purchases all of this 'counter-terrorism' stuff, why did Obama just set 5 highly dangerous Taliban commanders free?
Actually my point was that DHS was a Bush creation.
Yeah, He has to hear it on the nightly news first.
nope. we learned from nazi germany in the '30s. there are more of us than them and we will not go gentle into the good night. "Lord, make my hand fast and accurate. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine. Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun." And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home Let me die in a pile of empty brass." Amen
They still seem to forget that over 150 million people own multiple firearms. When the SHTF they will be the ones cowering.
Organized? Well my cartridges are lined up next to my rifles. What else is it I need to do? thinking thinking? Not taking any cheap BS in the neighborhood. Anything else? Semper Fi
Just like now
I wonder when they’ll switch their uniforms to brown.
Matt — You even picked the right state, 10 years in advance.
Pretty soon we will see them executing invasive, destructive, no-warrant searches for contraband. Officer Gretchen please pick up the white courtesy phone.
I wonder what the first declared contraband will be.
“Army?” A rather rotund army. That’s pretty funny.
Police Departments are the least of our worries. They may seem intimidating with their MRAPs and black body armor, but for the most part they are poorly trained. I’ve seen local police departments qualify at my gun club. It’s a real joke. While a few actually practice, most cops are simply union thugs that take a paycheck and a pension and do not much more than go to the range a couple times a year. As for the DHS is concerned, it is a similar situation. remember their numbers are inflated by dysfunctional organizations such as the TSA. Again, low intelligence, union slugs that only intimidate those the cry for a nanny state.
Maybe you are the one that will organize your neighborhood. Mine’s organized. But beyond our neighborhoods there will be a need for coordinated and larger offensive movements.
OMG, it was DESIGNED to be the American version of the Committee for State Security (better known as KGB) from the very beginning!
It is Obama’s “civilian force that is equipped and trained as well as the military”.
It will be instrument of our oppression in a very short time.
The military will be bled dry and replaced by gays and women and illegals so this American KGB has no opposition.
Yes, and my point is that some FReepers don’t recognize that its Fascist nature didn’t arise until Obama got ahold of it.
>>When the SHTF they will be the ones cowering.
What if they manage to keep it from fully hitting the fan? When will you cheer for a cop or politician or community organizer getting shot by a fed-up citizen?
The government is testing our tolerance level for tyranny and so far, it seems to be pretty high. As long as they don’t preempt a football game or cut off the beer supply, the sheeple will sit on their asses through just about anything. How many scandals does it take to give up your week at the beach or the mountains or Orlando to go march on DC instead?
If its nature is fascist, as you say, then it was inherently fascist.
I’ve shot next to some of these Barney Fife’s.
They aren’t the least bit embarrassed, though I cringe for them.
The Department of Homeland Security is the American equivalent of the Ton Ton Macoute.
“with its 240,000 full-time workers,”
Americans own enough bullets to shoot every DHS employee 48,643 times.
Remember, one only needs to get ONE to have succeeded in their duty to the Republic.
That prayer is awesome BW...
“...or community organizer ...”
The Patriot Act was NOT “fascist” as authored, THAT was part of Obama’s “fundamental transformation”.
I still say the best way to inspire our civil servants to do there best in our behalf is to visit their families at home and compliment them on their fine wife/husband and kids.
Make sure you bring them a nice gift and let them know you believe in sharing the golden rule.
No. They have become the United States’ Brown Shirts. That was the SA if I remember correctly.
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve got to have a civilian national security force thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008They dont call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.
I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...
Sounds like NAZI to me