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New York Dem: Illegals Should Have The Right To Vote
dailycaller.com ^ | june 16, 2014 | jonah bennett

Posted on 06/17/2014 4:37:29 AM PDT by lowbridge

New York state Sen. Guestavo Rivera wants to pass legislation to give illegal immigrants the right to vote in local and state elections, Reuters reports.

In terms of the broad benefits available to non-citizens, this bill is the first of its kind in America.

The main objective of the New York Is Home Act, according to Rivera, is to integrate illegal immigrants, who are estranged from participation in civic, economic and political life. The legislation not only gives illegal immigrants the right to vote, but establishes a kind of second-tiered citizenship on a state level, in which illegal immigrants can apply for tuition assistance, health insurance and driver’s and professional licenses, among other benefits.

“It’s mind-boggling,” says Michael Olivas, a professor at the University of Houston Law Center who specializes in immigration law, according to Businessweek. “I don’t believe there’s ever been a serious attempt to codify so many benefits and opportunities.”

But Rivera is confident that his model is right for New York, and right as a model for the rest of the country, although he admits that the bill “certainly will not pass this session,” comparing it to the development of same-sex marriage legislation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 06/17/2014 4:37:30 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I’m starting to understand why some people are heading to the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan and etc..


2 posted on 06/17/2014 4:40:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pass it so anyone can vote in NY... I can be an Illegal alien in NY state for a day if I can vote for a candidate to repeal the SAFE act and let the fracking begin.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 4:44:40 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: lowbridge

The main objective of the New York Is Home Act, according to Rivera, is to integrate illegal immigrants, who are estranged from participation in civic, economic and political life.
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LOL. The main objective of the New York Is Home Act is to generate more votes for Democrats. The Democrats understand that. We Tea Party types understand that. But somehow that obvious truth flies under the radar of the GOPe.


4 posted on 06/17/2014 4:47:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: lowbridge

State of NY is already a totalitarian statist cesspool, so letting the aliens vote along with the dead, voters sharing the same name and birthdate at various addresses, and college students who vote in their home towns and in their college towns, shouldn’t be a big deal.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 4:48:36 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: lowbridge
"...Sen. Guestavo Rivera wants to pass legislation to give illegal immigrants the right to vote..."

So, why not just let everybody else in the world vote? What difference does it make?

6 posted on 06/17/2014 4:49:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: lowbridge

Can’t we ave a
Can’t we just save a little money in housing and just let Mexican and central american citizens vote from their home countries. We can ups the food stamp loot and obamacaid directly to distribution centers. Then the democrats get what they want, the foreign nationals get there priszes prizes and the rest of .


7 posted on 06/17/2014 4:49:13 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Rodamala

No, they’ll let the aliens vote and put you in jail, just like Dinesh D’Souza. Count on it.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 4:49:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lowbridge
NY already elected Hillary to the Senate so, at this point...what difference does it make? Really?
9 posted on 06/17/2014 4:50:28 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Beware of "enviromentalist" spewing lies)
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To: lowbridge
The main objective of the New York Is Home Act ... is to integrate illegal immigrants, who are estranged from participation in civic, economic and political life.

They're here illegally. They're supposed to be estranged from it.

10 posted on 06/17/2014 4:51:36 AM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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To: NJRighty

Why not open the vote to anyone living on this earth, it would be the same an letting illegals vote.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 4:53:53 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: lowbridge; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; ...
RE :”The main objective of the New York Is Home Act, according to Rivera, is to integrate illegal immigrants, who are estranged from participation in civic, economic and political life. The legislation not only gives illegal immigrants the right to vote, but establishes a kind of second-tiered citizenship on a state level, in which illegal immigrants can apply for tuition assistance, health insurance and driver’s and professional licenses, among other benefits.
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But Rivera is confident that his model is right for New York, and right as a model for the rest of the country, although he admits that the bill “certainly will not pass this session,” comparing it to the development of same-sex marriage legislation.”

Sounds like a great place to ship all these kids coming across the border.

12 posted on 06/17/2014 4:55:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Exactly. And we should send absentee ballots to all mexican citizens still residing in mexico but never came here to the united states, legally or illegally. ;-)


13 posted on 06/17/2014 4:56:30 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Confirmed:

Immigration reform is nothing but a large-scale Democrat voter registration effort.

IMHO


14 posted on 06/17/2014 4:57:27 AM PDT by ripley
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To: lowbridge

Okay, I own property in two different states. Should I be able to vote in state and local elections in both locations? I can’t and could be subject to arrest if I do.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 4:57:53 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: DaveA37

We could send absentee ballots to mexico for the poor mexican citizens who never had the chance to come to the united states, legally or illegally. I mean, we mustn’t disenfranchise them.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 4:59:29 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: InterceptPoint

Tell them to learn English. Why should our police have to learn a second language. Disgusting.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 4:59:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lowbridge

So if every freeper and tea party member in the country requested an absentee ballot from New York, we could all vote there. Hmmm.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 5:00:28 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The UN has suggested that.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 5:00:59 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: muir_redwoods

> Should I be able to vote in state and local elections in
> both locations?

Only if you vote democrat.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 5:01:29 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: lowbridge

On the positive side, letting illegals vote in New York might hasten the imposition of taxes on accumulated wealth and carried interest which might finally get the wealthy progressives to wake up. So far they’ve avoided the impact of marginal income tax rate increases though loopholes, deferred compensation, realizing income as carried interest, and exorbitant pay increases to offset rising taxes.

The UN and liberal academics are already calling for the imposition of asset, net worth, and wealth taxes. As our open borders policies continue to encourage a flood of unskilled, uneducated, and impoverished people into the land of milk an honey, the ever increasing demands for spreading the wealth will reach the point where income taxes and borrowing can no longer meet the perceived need. Coming next:
1) Taxes on accumulated assets
2) Confiscation of IRA’s, 401K’s and other retirement savings.

The upper classes in New York should watch Dr. Zhivago to see what is going to happen to them if they continue on the current trajectory.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 5:02:37 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: lowbridge

We should exercise our right to demand our justice system indict, try, convict, and sentence DemonicRats, such as from New York, for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 5:04:17 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: lowbridge

So tell me, Guestavo, why shouldn’t I be able to vote in Mexican elections?


23 posted on 06/17/2014 5:04:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: lowbridge

Are you an American Citizen Sen. Guestavo Rivera ?
Well yes you are. Do you know why? Do you understand how?
At some point in history, someone from your family LEGALLY IMMIGRATED to this Country, followed the rules, applied for citizenship, completed the process and were granted Citizenship as Americans. Why do you believe that criminals should be given a privilege that you ancestors worked hard for?
Just Say No to the Invasion of our Country...


24 posted on 06/17/2014 5:08:54 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: lowbridge

Lunatic notion.

That this moron has not been uproariously and immediately laughed out of town is a very bad sign for America.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 5:15:58 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: lowbridge

They already vote so why pass legislation allowing them to vote when all it does is draw attention to that fact?


26 posted on 06/17/2014 5:18:01 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: lowbridge

Why even bother with the pretense of elections? Democrats would just declare a permanent dictatorship of their party. It’s what they want, and no one in the MSM would stop them. Hell, the MSM would provide justification; ending partisanship, needing to do something, breaking the logjam.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 5:18:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: lowbridge

No Guestavo, illegal aliens SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Your ass should be deported back to the sewer you crawled out of! If your illegals want to vote, they can stay home and vote. We don’t need more retards voting here than we already have.


28 posted on 06/17/2014 5:19:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: lowbridge

no they should not


29 posted on 06/17/2014 5:19:29 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: lowbridge

First they are NOT IMMIGRANTS, IMMIGRANTS come in through the front door, not sneak across the boarder. They are ILLEGAL INVADERS.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 5:21:23 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: lowbridge

so in other words, if I want to run over to Afghanistan to vote, that’s okay with this dude

I can just follow elections world wide and go vote for whoever I choose as a hobby

maybe I can be in the Guinness Book of World Records for person who voted int he most different countries in one year!


31 posted on 06/17/2014 5:21:37 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; Jane Long; GOPJ; NYer; The Mayor; Sun
Who is NY state Sen. Guestavo Rivera?

<><> How many US govt checks are Rivera, his supporters, his staff, and his family cashing?

<><> How many Social Seecurity numbers are the Riveras using?

<><> How many identities are the Riveras using?

<><> Is Rivera (his staff, his supporters, or his family) members of radical latino groups plotting to overthrow the US government?

<><> Is Rivera (his staff, his supporters, or his family) paid agents of foreign governments?

WHO IS GIVING Sen Guestavo Rivera HIS MARCHING ORDERS? The FBI needs to subpoena Guestavo Rivera's phone records, emails and snail mail .....

<><> Examine his campaign contributors, foreign travel, wire transfers, etc.

<><> Does he employ illegals as staff w/ tax dollars?

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How did state Sen Guestavo Rivera get into public office?

<><> Did ethno-centric latino groups vote him in in large numbers....under multiple identities?

<><> Are any of Rivera's voters registered to vote at multiple addresses?

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SAMPLE LETTER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
Taxpayers are urged to act now.
FBI TIPS PAGE https://tips.fbi.gov

SUBJECT: Collusion, conspiracy, and bribery
IN RE: financial irregularities
REFERENCE: govt fraud, falsified documents, wire transfers, accounting fraud, terrorism, armed insurgency, etc.

NARRATIVE Taxpayers demand to know the scope and dimension of multiple conspiracies to collude in sub rosa deals to personally profit and/or to facilitate voters enrollments, and fraudulent voting.

OF INTEREST TO LAW ENFORCEMENT The FBI should interrogate individuals for evidence of multiple schemes to falsify govt documents. The FBI should investigate any and all official documents submitted by the Rivera and latino pressure groups supporting him.

Crimes might include---conspiracy, collusion, falsifying official documents (a felony), money laundering, tax evasion, extorting taxpayers, theft of govt monies, misuse of public office and government positions, financing foreign govt schemes, financing the unde4rminingof US ntl security, funding armed takeover plans, etc.

Examine Rivera's tax returns with a fine-tooth comb.....especially entries for "interest income."

32 posted on 06/17/2014 5:26:56 AM PDT by Liz
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To: lowbridge

Invaders should have the right to live in your house. Another scumbag POS collectivist spewing for the U.S.A. (United Socialists of America).


33 posted on 06/17/2014 5:29:54 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: lowbridge

Liberals in office is proof that illegal immigrants already vote.


34 posted on 06/17/2014 5:30:05 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Liz

Thanks, Liz.


35 posted on 06/17/2014 5:31:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Rivera even a citizen? If he is, he’s obviously not concerned for the well being of our Nation. How do these scumbags get elected....Oh yeah, the same way our scumbag senator casey got elected here in Pennsyltucky. Never mind.


36 posted on 06/17/2014 5:33:12 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: lowbridge

So they should have the right to cancel out the votes of AMERICANS? This country is going down.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 5:34:37 AM PDT by jersey117 (greta)
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To: Rodamala

That “brilliance gene” must run through the Rivera family. This guy’s “cousin” Geraldo seems to have it, too.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 5:37:51 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: lowbridge

Right because God knows New York taxes are too low and they must allow illegals to vote in more benefits.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 5:40:27 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Rodamala

That “brilliance gene” must run through the Rivera family. This guy’s “cousin” Geraldo seems to have it, too.


40 posted on 06/17/2014 5:41:01 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: lowbridge

So Rivera wants to create a second class citizenship for illegal’s in New York. One that would avail them all the benefits, but none of the responsibilities. ( The legislation not only gives illegal immigrants the right to vote, but establishes a kind of second-tiered citizenship on a state level, in which illegal immigrants can apply for tuition assistance, health insurance and driver’s and professional licenses, among other benefits.) Sounds to me like a plan, we haven’t got enough loafers riding the wagon pulled by responsible citizens.


41 posted on 06/17/2014 6:03:42 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: lowbridge

Liberal/Progressive Democrats have always wanted illegal votes. Whether they came across the border illegally, or were felons or the dead - Democrats will do anything for their illegal votes.


42 posted on 06/17/2014 6:19:29 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: lowbridge

That confirms it ... liberalism is a brain disorder.


43 posted on 06/17/2014 6:20:26 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: lowbridge

Yes, why not? They can be president.


44 posted on 06/17/2014 6:30:00 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: DaveA37

Believe it or not, there is such a movement.

They believe that since what the US does affects the rest of the world, that people in other countries should be able to vote for the US President.


45 posted on 06/17/2014 6:35:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lowbridge

Oh so new york wants ALL the illegals to come there. i’ll put the word out. news travels fast in illegal circles.


46 posted on 06/17/2014 6:56:36 AM PDT by mitzirenee
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Had ENOUGH Yet ?


47 posted on 06/17/2014 8:12:38 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: sickoflibs

“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”
“I will only vote for ?”


48 posted on 06/17/2014 3:18:24 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Ted or Sarah!


49 posted on 06/17/2014 7:10:43 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

Hmmm... Hmmm.


50 posted on 06/17/2014 7:12:50 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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