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Obama Should Have Seen Iraq Unrest Coming, Experts Say
NBC News ^ | June 17, 2014 | Perry Bacon Jr.

Posted on 06/17/2014 5:15:39 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

Lawmakers from both parties and even some non-partisan analysts say the Obama administration should have better anticipated the rise of Sunni militants, who captured Iraq’s second-largest city last week and could pose a terrorism threat both within and outside the country’s borders.

With U.S. officials now scrambling to respond to the advances by The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, the insurgent group that seized Mosul last week, some critics say there was either a failure by U.S. intelligence officials in assessing the strength of ISIS or Obama and his policy team didn’t react quickly enough.

“It was very clear to people how bad these guys are,” Michael Leiter, a former top counterterrorism official in both the Bush and Obama administrations, said in an interview. “I don’t know if this was a tactical error or an intelligence error.”

Any question about the group's capabilities or intentions should have been answered when the militants took Fallujah in January, Leiter said.

“I think our intelligence has failed us miserably, from not being aware of the threat that we've faced and how this could unfold as quickly as it has. This has been planned for quite some time,” Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia, said on NBC’s Meet The Press Sunday. “My first thing to recommend to the president is get your intelligence group back on track, making sure that we have the intel that we need for whatever options we have, that are going to be accurate.”

The administration has argued that it had been monitoring the situation closely.

“We have been very aware and have discussed here and in other venues the challenge posed by the war in Syria, and the extremist activity there...", White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said at a press briefing.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; iraq
Incompetence or part of the plan?
1 posted on 06/17/2014 5:15:39 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

esp since he was trying to support Isis in Syria, who knew they would break out and come down like hordes from the north into Iraq


2 posted on 06/17/2014 5:16:45 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Rennes Templar

Both parties and non-partisan sources say Obama is at fault here? How did this story get bast the NBC editors? If its an Iraq problem, its always Bush’s fault.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 5:17:05 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Rennes Templar

How can they expect him to anticipate anything when his only knowledge of such comes on the heels of breaking news stories. He finds out about things when media does.


4 posted on 06/17/2014 5:17:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rennes Templar

Devastating bombings have been going on since we left. Where’s NATO? They’ve said nothing.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 5:17:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Rennes Templar

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/12/us-nato-iraq-idUSKBN0EN1BZ20140612


6 posted on 06/17/2014 5:18:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Rennes Templar

Obama? Where’s the CIA, NSA and other assets? Where’s the Iraqi air force? Why have we squandered so much money, men, women and innocent victims for? DISMANTLE this FEDGOV leviathan. It is not working for us.


7 posted on 06/17/2014 5:20:44 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sacajaweau

News this morning said that we saw ISIS on surveillance for weeks before this happened.

What about a secret early strike?


8 posted on 06/17/2014 5:21:13 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Rennes Templar

If an 18 hole golf course was built with the US Embassy Obama would still have 20,000 troops there.


9 posted on 06/17/2014 5:21:20 AM PDT by AU72
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To: PGalt

“Where’s the CIA, NSA and other assets?

Planning security for his next golf weekend?


10 posted on 06/17/2014 5:24:30 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: PGalt

American intelligence missed the fall of the Soviet Union. Numerous Muslims with hotlines to Terrorist Central (Boston bombers, US Army officers) were ‘missed’.

Those gov orgs current purpose and energy are to suppress domestic dissent.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 5:29:58 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

How did this story get past the editors?

Simple, NBC buries the story on their website and now they can claim they covered the story without ever mentioning it in their broadcasts.


12 posted on 06/17/2014 5:30:45 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Like everything else, it was “unexpected” to this bunch of morons.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 5:30:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Incompetence or part of the plan?
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You beat me too it.

Look at history. Those Sunnis always stick together. When you have a Sunni muslim President of the United States do you really expect him to go all out to save the Shite government of Iraq?

You are right. This is all going per the plan.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 5:33:03 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Rennes Templar

Obama did know. Wasn’t Valerie Jarrett born and raised in Iran?


15 posted on 06/17/2014 5:34:39 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; Rennes Templar
If its an Iraq problem, its always Bush’s fault.

What's the over/under on how long before the usual suspects come out and use the phony "Republican sequester" excuse, claiming that Boehner & the rest of the Republicans in the House had cut the Intel budget?!

16 posted on 06/17/2014 5:40:39 AM PDT by mellow velo
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To: jjotto
Those gov orgs current purpose and energy are to suppress domestic dissent.

Exactly. Control of the skies and you can't see/stop/crush invasion on the ground (Iraq, Texas, Arizona). TRAITORS.

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

17 posted on 06/17/2014 5:42:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Rennes Templar
Obama Should Have Seen Iraq Unrest Coming, Experts Say

He did. And chose to do nothing about it.

18 posted on 06/17/2014 5:44:20 AM PDT by upchuck (... honesty is the never-ending rehearsal for those who want to be the friends of God...)
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To: Mercat

“Wasn’t Valerie Jarrett born and raised in Iran?”

‘Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, to African American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, ran a hospital for children in Shiraz in 1956, as part of a program where American physicians and agricultural experts sought to help communitize developing countries’ health and farming efforts.’

Nothing worse than an Iranian communitizer.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 5:47:04 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Where’s NATO?”

They’re still scratching their heads over Putin. They can’t even begin to think about ISIS.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 5:53:26 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Rennes Templar

Per the title. “Should” is the most useless word in the english language.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 5:55:58 AM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Obama was probably on vacation and missed the hundreds of emails warning him that Iraq militants began their buildup the very day he announced a complete troop withdrawal against all experts advice. He probably had a beer with the terrorist leader the day he released him from prison.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 5:59:38 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Rennes Templar

So she existed inside a bubble raised by people who no doubt had liberal guilt. Wow. And now she’s running our country.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 6:08:00 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Rennes Templar
Incompetence or part of the plan?


24 posted on 06/17/2014 6:09:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Rennes Templar

Turnabout is fair play. The left said the same thing about Bush ... they refuse to apply the same standards to their chosen one.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 6:17:01 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Rennes Templar


26 posted on 06/17/2014 6:21:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Gaffer

It’s hard to keep up with current events when he’s out on some golf course chasing a little white ball. All payed for by us, the US taxpayers. Basically, he doesn’t give a sh@*.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 6:23:45 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Shoulda, coulda, woulda, heck no, he is not on our side.


28 posted on 06/17/2014 6:31:28 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: Rennes Templar

Normalcy Bias kills.


29 posted on 06/17/2014 6:37:26 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Obama saw it coming because he caused it by intentionally creating the vacuum that made it possible.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 6:39:17 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“How did this story get bast the NBC editors?”

They have to show some semblance of being in touch with reality.


31 posted on 06/17/2014 6:49:43 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Rennes Templar

“Fellow islamists....”


32 posted on 06/17/2014 6:52:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Rennes Templar

How the hell did she get to be in the 0bama fold?


33 posted on 06/17/2014 7:17:56 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“How the hell did she get to be in the 0bama fold?”

In a word: Chicago


34 posted on 06/17/2014 7:25:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Rennes Templar

It is clear that Obama wants Iraq to fail, after all, it’s Bush’s war.

After announcing that there would be “no boots on the ground”, Obama reversed course the next day. I imagine the conversation went like this:

“Mr. President, we have some people there at our embassy that need protecting, if they are overrun and killed, this will reflect badly on you”.

Obama-”Well, if you are saying we need a few boots on the ground to accomplish this, then ok, but I want the minimum to protect these people, not enough of a force to actually repel the Islamists. How many would that be?”

“Dude, I would say around....4 to 5 hundred?”

Obama-”Then send in 300-no, make it 275, more precise, sounds like we know what we’re doing.”


35 posted on 06/17/2014 7:27:36 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

Exactly.


36 posted on 06/17/2014 7:38:47 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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To: Rennes Templar

Obama is behind it.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 7:45:01 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 1Old Pro
Obama was probably on vacation and missed the hundreds of emails warning him that Iraq militants began their buildup the very day he announced a complete troop withdrawal against all experts advice. He probably had a beer with the terrorist leader the day he released him from prison.

Maybe they had a computer crash, and lost all those e mails. Well, if the IRS can use that excuse, why not the White Hut? Anyway, that is their story, and they are sticking with it. Oh yes, I forgot to mention. It's Bush's fault, and they sticking with that one too.

38 posted on 06/17/2014 10:28:58 AM PDT by Mark17 ( Rudyard Kipling: it is unhealthy, for evil doers, to awaken the sleeping Saxon, and torque his jaws)
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To: Rennes Templar

LOL! Are these people THAT stupid? 0bama is behind this Islamist takeover of Iraq. Notice how quickly he had to release 5 bad guys from Gitmo right before the Iraq thing blew up.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 4:22:54 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Rennes Templar

The number of people in our gov’t and military helping team Obama expand the Islamic Caliphate is scary as hell. Working to ensure terrorists eventually kill us all and overtake America just to keep their paychecks coming? WTF?


40 posted on 06/17/2014 5:18:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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