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Court: Alabama Can't Criminalize Gay Sex
Newser ^ | June 17 2014 | Matt Cantor

Posted on 06/17/2014 7:24:54 AM PDT by PoloSec

(Newser) – An Alabama appeals court has ruled the state's ban on consensual gay sex is unconstitutional. The measure banned oral and anal sex, adding that "consent is no defense to a prosecution under this subdivision"; in a unanimous ruling, judges said the law was aimed at banning gay sex, KSDK reports. The American Civil Liberties Union applauded the decision. "Aiming to ban consensual sex is flat out wrong," says its executive director. "A person's sexual orientation shouldn't matter."

The case at hand involved an Alabama man convicted of sexual misconduct in 2010. Dewayne Williams said he'd had consensual anal sex. Though the prosecutor said he understood the new ruling, he said the alleged victim in the case "got attacked by another man and he had sex he didn't want to have." The constitutionality of the law hadn't been taken on since 2003, when the US Supreme Court rejected a comparable law in Texas, judges said, per the AP.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
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1 posted on 06/17/2014 7:24:54 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

So is the court saying that men have no legal protection from getting anally raped by other men?


2 posted on 06/17/2014 7:30:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: PoloSec

Gay sex ain’t natural.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 7:33:02 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: PoloSec

They kinda had to do this. An anti fudge-packing ruling would have brought the whole house of cards tumbling down. All the stuff Obama and Confess have done to us for years would have to be thrown out by, uh, extension. So to speak.

PS: My phone “corrected” “whole house of cards” to “white house of cards”! I almost decided to leave it that way!


4 posted on 06/17/2014 7:34:52 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Vigilanteman

“So is the court saying that men have no legal protection from getting anally raped by other men?”

Sounds like it.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 7:37:16 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: PoloSec

Median age at death for homosexual males in the USA: 47.

The consequence of anal & oral sodomy among queers is death. Why then would not the acts that cause the death be considered murder?


6 posted on 06/17/2014 7:38:07 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Vigilanteman
My impression is that they'resaying the criminal charges were brought under the wrong law. A law against rape would have (presumably) permitted a guilty verdict. But the law against anal sodomy they struck down because it didn't allow for consent.

"Aiming to ban consensual sex is flat out wrong," says its executive director. "A person's sexual orientation shouldn't matter."

That's a bad argument right there. It would allow for pedophilia, since the pedophilia law doesn't allow for the consent of the child.

7 posted on 06/17/2014 7:42:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: PoloSec

Why make a law that is unenforceable?


8 posted on 06/17/2014 7:46:40 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: PoloSec

This is incoherent.

I notice it’s posted by the same person who posted something else that was also pretty disjointed.


9 posted on 06/17/2014 7:52:30 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: PoloSec

The supreme Court has already determined that it is unconstitutional to legislate against consensual sex acts, that’s not in dispute. But this was a RAPE CASE. Alabama’s statute’s don’t allow rape of a male by a male to be prosecuted under their rape laws, they have a separate statute for sodomy in the first degree. The court determined that the lesser included offense of sexual misconduct was unconstitutional, which is obviously true, as it just bans deviate sexual intercourse by anyone of any gender at any time in any place regardless of consent. The thing is, without the jury instruction on the easier to decide lesser included offense the guy might have been convicted of the actual rape. Here we have a guy may have raped another man and gotten away with it and leftists want to trumpet his success in avoiding a lesser included offense as a gar rights victory?


10 posted on 06/17/2014 7:58:52 AM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Now that the gay mafia has gotten widespread recognition for their sham marriages, their next stop is seeking out florists, bakers and other wedding service providers for destruction unless they agree to celebrate their farce.

After that, they are divided on who they should go after next-- the laws against pedophilia or religious organizations who refuse to perform their farcical marriages.

11 posted on 06/17/2014 8:01:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: PoloSec; All
We know the cause is lust; Dreaming and fantasizing over ones own desires rather than obeying the will of God. The result is sin and ultimately eternal death in Hell.

Even though this sin is marked out in the Bible, that no Homosexual will enter the Kingdom of Heaven - any sin will keep one from going to heaven.

That is why Christ's coming is such good news. It is that anyone who truly believes upon His death on the cross (for all ones sins), calling Him Lord, is saved from Hell and has life abundantly forever (both now and in heaven).

Even the sin of Homosexuality is forgiven, if one turns away (Repents from it completely), Believes upon the Saviors death in their place, makes Him Lord and turns and follows Him.

There is no sin that cannot be forgiven save one: That is not believing upon what Christ has done for sin.

Christ alone cleanses completely from sin and brings the believer to Life Abundantly.

12 posted on 06/17/2014 8:06:55 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: PoloSec

If a state can’t outlaw homosexuality because it contains a measure of privacy and mutual consent, then how can a state outlaw prostitution, which can claim the same defenses? How can a state enforce any moral boundaries at all, as long as the parties involved consent?


13 posted on 06/17/2014 8:11:59 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: ifinnegan

“This is incoherent.

I notice it’s posted by the same person who posted something else that was also pretty disjointed.”

Newser is basically news for the low attention span twitter generation. It’s awful.

Here’s the actual court decision, which is the only place you’ll actually find any context on the matter:
https://acis.alabama.gov/displaydocs.cfm?no=584466&event=43A0U29G6

“After entering the motel office, A.R.(the victim) turned around to shut the door completely when Williams(the defendant) grabbed A.R. by his throat and pushed him into the bathroom in the office. Williams told A.R. to not say anything or scream and that if A.R. did, Williams would choke A.R. harder. Williams locked the bathroom door and told A.R. “to take [Williams’s] pants down and take [A.R.’s pants] down and pretty much grope him and cause him to [become] erect.” (R. 113.) A.R. complied. Williams told A.R. to bend over and, after A.R. bent over a mop bucket, Williams proceeded to sodomize A.R. While sodomizing him, Williams bit A.R. on the neck and asked him, “Where were you last night?” (R. 114.) After Williams finished, he “told [A.R.] to open the door and see if anybody was in the lobby.” (R. 115.) After A.R. verified that no one was in the motel lobby, the men walked out of the bathroom and A.R. went to his desk. For the next 45 minutes Williams “hovered around” A.R. and then returned to the lobby. (R. 116.)

After Williams left the office of the motel, A.R. sent a text message to one of his coworkers, asking her to come to the motel. The coworker came to the motel and, after William left the lobby, A.R. told her what Williams had done. The next day A.R. told his mother what had happened and the police were notified. A.R. went to a hospital, where nurse Patricia Anthony performed a sexual-assault examination on him. Torey Williams of the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences received the sexual-assault kit and determined that material obtained from rectal and genital swabs taken from A.R. matched a DNA sample Williams had provided.

In his case-in-chief Williams presented the testimony of three character witnesses. Williams also testified in his own defense, acknowledging that he had sodomized A.R. but stating that A.R. had consented to the sodomy.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 8:13:45 AM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Vigilanteman

[ So is the court saying that men have no legal protection from getting anally raped by other men? ]

Kinda sounds like it, doesn’t it...


15 posted on 06/17/2014 8:29:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Blackyce

Thanks.

(Although, that passage is too coherent. Yuck).


16 posted on 06/17/2014 8:40:57 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: PoloSec; All

As mentioned in related threads, please consider the following. Politically correct interpretations of the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protections Clause aside, the only aspect of sex that the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect is voting rights as evidenced by the 19th Amendment. Otherwise, the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify that government power to regulate sex outside the context of voting is reserved uniquely to the states. So the judge who made the ruling concerning Alabama is likely a pro-gay activist, wrongly legislating gay rights from the bench.

One remedy to judicial activism is the following. Patriots need to work with state and federal lawmakers to make punitive laws which require judges to promptly, clearly and publicly state, to the satisfaction of voters, the specific constitutional clauses which they believe justify their case decisions. And judges who fail to reasonably comply with such requirements can not only be removed from the bench, but possibly spend a few nights in the crossbar motel.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 9:00:54 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

I plan to review this ruling carefully, and try to vote the SOBs out of office if it’s apparent they’re caving to the homosexual agenda. All judges are elective offices in Alabama.

It should be the same for the feds. They make themselves political animals and they should be required to stand for election to political office.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 11:11:06 AM PDT by afsnco
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