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White House Claims IRS Computer Crash Story Is Really True
The Daily Caller ^ | 17 Jun 2014 | Neil Munro

Posted on 06/17/2014 8:18:26 AM PDT by mandaladon

White House spokesman Josh Earnest stonewalled reporters Monday, seeking an explanation for the administration’s Friday-night claim that a computer crash wiped out all the emails between IRS chief Lois Lerner and other agencies, including the White House.

“You’ve never heard of a computer crashing before?” Earnest told a reporter during a brief press gaggle while flying back to D.C. from President Barack Obama’s fundraising trip to California.

“A good faith effort has been made” to find the missing emails, he said.

Skepticism about the administration’s claim is “indicative of the kinds of conspiracy that are propagated around this story,” Earnest scoffed.

The claimed loss of emails have evoked much ridicule from GOP leaders, who argue that normal computer networks store backups of emails. “Ridiculous. #WH has to get serious,” reads a tweet from Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican Party.

From 2010 onward, Obama’s IRS officials used their tax power to cripple fundraising and advocacy at many Republican-leaning tea party groups before the 2012 election.

IRS official Lois Lerner played a central role in the suppression effort, but has refused to explain how the scheme began, and if the White House was involved.

Administration officials promised to send copies of Lerner’s emails to House GOP investigators. But they now say they have no copies of her messages to and from senior officials in other agencies, because her computer crashed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; irs; irsscandals; irsteapartyscandal; lerner; lerneremails; loislerner; obama
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The story “is entirely reasonable because it’s true and it’s a fact,” Earnest said.....................If you say so...
1 posted on 06/17/2014 8:18:26 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Only someone stupid enough to vote for Obama would believe this crap.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 8:19:25 AM PDT by mandaladon (To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful an)
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Had ENOUGH Yet ?


3 posted on 06/17/2014 8:19:50 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: mandaladon
“A good faith effort has been made” to find the missing emails, he said.

IOW, he looked in the desk drawer................

4 posted on 06/17/2014 8:19:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: mandaladon

Provide full documentation and forensics to confirm the emails were lost.

Otherwise everyone involved should be charged.

This sets a disgusting precedent and people cannot stand for it!


5 posted on 06/17/2014 8:20:37 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: mandaladon

The White House is really telling you that they DESTROYED THE EMAILS on ALL Computers/Servers


6 posted on 06/17/2014 8:20:48 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: mandaladon

The obama Administration:

Not even a smidgeon of corruption.


7 posted on 06/17/2014 8:20:51 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: S.O.S121.500

We should have stopped him at t he dinner roll.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 8:22:18 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: mandaladon

If it is a true story then the IRS deliberately set up a system that deletes evidence. Defund it, now.


9 posted on 06/17/2014 8:22:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mandaladon

This press parrot is even worse than Jay Carney, because this one enjoys lying to the reporters.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 8:22:57 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: mandaladon

Emails are on the senders and receivers computer. Lets not be stupid. Then there are two more parties...the service providers.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 8:23:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon

so they should subpoena all the RECIPIENTS of the email, suspected and known both.

And if anyone seriously thinks that those emails are not on a backup server somewhere, they are deluded. What, the NSA gives witches a bye?


12 posted on 06/17/2014 8:23:32 AM PDT by blu
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To: mandaladon

Wouldn’t the emails be on the sending end server as well as the receiving end server?


13 posted on 06/17/2014 8:23:53 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: mandaladon

Yeah Michael Hasting’s steering wheel turned and the vehicle sped up because he was high at the time. The fact that he was working on a story on CIA director, John Brennan, had absolutely nothing to do with it.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 8:23:54 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: varyouga
Provide full documentation and forensics to confirm the emails were lost.

Actually that's what they want us to do - to ask for something else. They will then delay forever on that.

Just put people in jail and stop their paychecks. That's what they would do.

15 posted on 06/17/2014 8:24:00 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: mandaladon

Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner.
Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner.
Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner.
Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner.
Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner.
Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner. Jail Lerner.

Giver her a summer vacation in jail to think it over.

If she needs more time give her Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years.

And when the new Congress begins, jail her. Jail her until she complies.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 8:24:13 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: mandaladon

Earnest said with earnest.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 8:25:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mandaladon

So, sensitive government computers do not have backup drives?

What’s the next whopper they’ll come up with?


18 posted on 06/17/2014 8:26:00 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: mandaladon

Sharyl Atkisson had a great blog about what the Republicans should ask for, in detail, from the regime about this “crash.” It completely destroys this “computer dog ate my homework” sham.

She is one very bright lady and I wish all journalists had half of her dedication to the pursuit of truth.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 8:26:15 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: mandaladon

If the White House is making this claim, then I know beyond all doubt that it is a lie.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 8:26:25 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: mandaladon

Basically, the corrupt, deceitful, horrible people in the White House are saying, “Hey, we wouldn’t lie to you, honest! If you don’t believe me, just ask me again!”


21 posted on 06/17/2014 8:26:36 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: mandaladon

BS.

They are asking us to believe that the file-server running the email service literally went up in smoke - along with ALL the backup tapes??!!

How is this level of obfuscation NOT criminal?


22 posted on 06/17/2014 8:26:43 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: mandaladon
White House Claims IRS Computer Crash Story Is Really True

If I "lose" my entrance ticket on the Mass Pike and go one exit, I pay the maximum amount on the ticket.

In the same vein, if Lerner's evidence can't be produced, then the entire white hut, IRS, and throw in the rest of them as well, should go to prison.

23 posted on 06/17/2014 8:27:09 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: mandaladon

The real explanation is not a crashed computer. This detailed explanation of how the IRS system does not make it possible to save emails is ENLIGHTENING. IT USES A SELF PURGING SYSTEM BY THE FOLLOWING MEANS...

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/06/the-latest-on-lois-lerners-lost-emails-with-a-bombshell-at-the-end.php


24 posted on 06/17/2014 8:27:13 AM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: mandaladon

They really take us for complete a$$holes. Actually, they’re partially right. Half the country is an a$$hole - the half that voted for the current administration.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 8:28:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: mandaladon

We all need to stop paying taxes.......oh we can’t!
because we are slaves to the state masters!!!!


26 posted on 06/17/2014 8:28:24 AM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: molson209
The White House is really telling you that they DESTROYED THE EMAILS on ALL Computers/Servers

Without belaboring the point, I've made the case very succinctly in other threads that this just isn't true. Besides the very obvious violation of numerous records retention policies in place since the 1970s, I can personally tell you that the federal government has backups EVERYWHERE. It would take a monumental, concerted effort for a group of people to wipe all copies of this data, and even then, I bet there are stubs or scratch files somewhere with the data in it.

27 posted on 06/17/2014 8:28:32 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: mandaladon

What’s that phrase? Willing suspension of disbelief... Yeah, that’s the one.


28 posted on 06/17/2014 8:28:51 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: mandaladon

is this satire? Do we live in at Banana Republic where we must believe are great leader scored 30 under par on 18 holes of golf? how long did it take for us to be labeled conspiracy theorists?this is the most impossible story I have heard in the past 6 years, and that is really something!


29 posted on 06/17/2014 8:29:03 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: mandaladon

This is why there have been no tax audits for those years - they lost everyone’s tax information in the computer crash too.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 8:29:23 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: mandaladon

Simply amazing. We have an administration brazenly involved in, amongst other things, evidence tampering, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and failure to comply with lawful subpoenas. And yet not one legislator appears to be doing a damned thing about it.


31 posted on 06/17/2014 8:29:59 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: mandaladon
I can throw my company computer off a cliff and watch it physically "crash"... and all my email would still be on the server.

Then they claim that they recycled backup tapes every 6 months... from an agency that requires us to keep records for 7 years...

This would totally fail a Sarbanes-Oxley audit.

32 posted on 06/17/2014 8:30:43 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: mandaladon
The story “is entirely reasonable because it’s true and it’s a fact,” Earnest said.....................

Imagine ... if you will ... a dimension of time and space where this was said to the MSM by the press secretary of George W. Boooosshh ....


33 posted on 06/17/2014 8:31:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: mandaladon

When the .gov comes calling on me for what ever reason,,,
I will use these same pathetic excuses on them with a straight face and say sorry. . .


34 posted on 06/17/2014 8:32:45 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: mandaladon

“But they now say they have no copies of her messages to and from senior officials in other agencies, because her computer crashed.”

Do these jerks thing anyone will actually believe this? Emails are stored on the server, not solely on her machine. Even if the server crashed, there is a backup, or transaction records that can reconstruct all the mail.


35 posted on 06/17/2014 8:33:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mandaladon

So.....Computer crash deniers.


36 posted on 06/17/2014 8:35:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Ann Archy

We’re getting a lot more “josh” than we are “earnest”.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 8:36:08 AM PDT by Bob
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To: mandaladon

And there are those who claim to believe it only because they support the criminality of this admin -

they love the idea of the government being used to punish opposition and then being able to dare anyone to do anything about it.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 8:37:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mandaladon

I don’t think he is intentionally trying to fool the citizenry. He is actually stupid enough himself to believe that a crash of Lerner’s computer alone would wipe out all evidence of her emails. If he doesn’t understand corporate email technology, he should check with someone who does before doubling down on the embarrassingly idiotic pc crash excuse.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 8:37:35 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: givemELL

At least Powerline’s blog should get the facts straight, IRS mail servers are not Outlook servers, outlook is a mail client not a server. The server is called Microsoft Exchange.


40 posted on 06/17/2014 8:38:59 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: mandaladon

“The story is entirely reasonable because it’s true and it’s a fact,”
A perfect example of circular reasoning. No surprise that it would come from an 0bama sycophant. They know that most Americans don’t know how to reason critically, and will be fooled.


41 posted on 06/17/2014 8:40:36 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: informavoracious

I agree with you here, I think he is too stupid to understand. If there was anyone in the media with an IQ over 85 they would be all over this. Idiocracy.


42 posted on 06/17/2014 8:44:25 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: mandaladon

The next claim of truth by this White House that is actually TRUE will be the first.


43 posted on 06/17/2014 8:49:30 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: givemELL

Not really. It is against the law to purge emails that conduct government business. Any email purged from electronic media must first be hard copied due to FOI ACT. Lerner either has to produce them or she will end up in a court of law for violating that law.
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44 posted on 06/17/2014 9:01:16 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

There is no way that the current administration would lie to us, is there?


45 posted on 06/17/2014 9:03:19 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: mandaladon

So, next year when I “file online” the IRS will be okay if they never get the payment and I can’t produce the accompanying email I sent?


46 posted on 06/17/2014 9:07:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: mandaladon

Its pretty obvious by now that this crime goes all the way up to barry, and they’d rather take the fall for destroying evidence rather than for what the emails really told.


47 posted on 06/17/2014 9:09:30 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: mandaladon

Is it also possibly really true when it is stated the creature in the oval office is actually a monkey’s uncle? The regime has lied many times before. They continue to lie now. Truth is such a foreign concept to them.


48 posted on 06/17/2014 9:10:29 AM PDT by V K Lee
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To: informavoracious
I don’t think he is intentionally trying to fool the citizenry. He is actually stupid enough himself to believe that a crash of Lerner’s computer alone would wipe out all evidence of her emails. If he doesn’t understand corporate email technology, he should check with someone who does before doubling down on the embarrassingly idiotic pc crash excuse.

Someone said he is a former computer forensics expert. Is this why he was hired as the new WH liar, because they new this was coming?
49 posted on 06/17/2014 9:13:32 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: mandaladon

So, we have the Justice Department investigating the IRS and they are buying this? If they are this gullible how could they ever get to the bottom of fast & furious or the 8 billion dollars missing from the State Department or Solyndra or...............................Oh.


50 posted on 06/17/2014 9:19:59 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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