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Blowback! U.S. trained ISIS at secret Jordan base
WND ^ | 6/16/2014 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 06/17/2014 10:09:56 AM PDT by detective

JERUSALEM – Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan, according to informed Jordanian officials.

The officials said dozens of ISIS members were trained at the time as part of covert aid to the insurgents targeting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.

The Jordanian officials said all ISIS members who received U.S. training to fight in Syria were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.

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1 posted on 06/17/2014 10:09:56 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

Apparently our new foreign policy is to train all the Arabs to kill each other.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 10:15:03 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: detective

Not that McCain needs to look stupid-er, but all of this shows just how stupid he was when he was advocating for arming and training the Syrian terrorists. A plan that would have come back to bite us hard. It has anyway, actually.

All of this training/arming bs needs to stop because it is completely un-vetted and out of control.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 10:15:30 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: detective
The Jordanian officials said all ISIS members who received U.S. training to fight in Syria were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.

Oh, well, OK then. Good to know Obama was careful. /S

4 posted on 06/17/2014 10:15:33 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: aimhigh

And then us.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 10:15:59 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: detective

John McCain aka McQueeg had his hand in this fiasco. Maybe some others Republicans. If so I sure would like to know who.

A lot of us here on FR had always wondered how you could tell the good guys from the bad guys. As we are finding out you can’t.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 10:17:52 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: detective

I posted earlier that all military equipment we ‘give’ to other nations should include a simple kill switch we could activate if the materiel is being used against our interests.

I suggest the same kind of technology be surgically and irreversibly implanted in every foreign soldier we train.


7 posted on 06/17/2014 10:19:15 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: Pearls Before Swine; detective
The Jordanian officials said all ISIS members who received U.S. training to fight in Syria were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.

Unbelievable! What did they think ISIS was??

8 posted on 06/17/2014 10:19:18 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: detective

bttt


9 posted on 06/17/2014 10:19:19 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: detective
Psalm 83 (KJV)

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. 2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: 6 the tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: 10 which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.

11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: 12 who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. 14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;

15 so persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord.

17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18 that men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 10:19:23 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: detective

This is no surprise since we also trained and/or funded Saddam Hussein, Ayatollah Khomeini, members of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda. We are deliberately creating a virulent, organized jihadi Middle East. Then, we can be shocked,...SHOCKED, I TELL YOU!, that these monsters are acting monstrously. The military-industrial complex, of which Eisenhower warned us, will have what they really want: World War 3.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 10:19:26 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: fishtank

Didn’t even realize at first that graphic was using the earth and a star (Sun) ....

... similar to the moon and a star from that other religion ....

Similar, but NOT THE SAME!!!

haha


12 posted on 06/17/2014 10:21:29 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: detective

TREASON!!!


13 posted on 06/17/2014 10:21:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: detective
Ah, "informed Jordanaian officials" which, of course, WND's expert staff have familiar relationships with.

What a joke.

14 posted on 06/17/2014 10:21:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Genoa
Unbelievable!

Well said.

Nothing in this "report" is believable in the slightest.

15 posted on 06/17/2014 10:22:41 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: detective

Hmmm, wonder if there’s a good reason not to train terrorists in the tactics they need to fight against our military effectively.

Same goes for allowing China to participate in our war games.

We have the absolute worst leadership this nation has ever seen.

Folks, we are headed into oblivion, if we don’t call the traitors out and demand change.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 10:23:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Genoa

Perhaps FSA then and now members of ISIS.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 10:23:38 AM PDT by Justa
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To: jimbug

Zorg: I hate warriors, too narrow-minded. I’ll tell you what I do like though: a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would’ve immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 10:24:00 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: aimhigh

“Apparently our new foreign policy is to train all the Arabs to kill each other.”

For over 10 years we have supposedly been training the Iraqi and Afghani military and police.

At Mosul 10,000 regular Iraqi soldiers ran from the fight with 800 terrorists.

Tell me again how “nation building” and “training soldiers and police” worked out?

Maybe reverting to their natural customs and practices of killing each other will be an improvement.


19 posted on 06/17/2014 10:24:35 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Dr. Thorne
we also trained and/or funded Saddam Hussein

Not true.

Ayatollah Khomeini

Not true.

members of the Muslim Brotherhood

Not true.

Al Qaeda

Also not true.

But good for a laugh - or an Alex Jones article, or a WND article, or a Nation article, or a DailyKos post.

20 posted on 06/17/2014 10:25:43 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: detective

Jordan will be next on the jihadi hit list . .


21 posted on 06/17/2014 10:26:16 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: wideawake

Actually, that’s a figure of speech. It’s believable.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: jimbug

Or we could just stop arming foreign entities.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 10:30:04 AM PDT by all the best
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I am sure they wanted to make sure that all new ISIS recruits were members in good standing with Al Qaeda. Gotta be a member of the union, right?


24 posted on 06/17/2014 10:30:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Dr. Thorne; All

Look, in many ways I agree with what you are saying, bet we have to be careful here too.

Yes we did help Hussein to a certain extent. We helped just enough so that Iran and Iraq could take each other out. Frankly, it was effective. Upwards of half a million people died in that war, and that was the focus of those two nations for the better part of a decade, just before, during, and after.

It is also true we helped train the underground in Afghanistan too. And some of those people turned out against us also. At the time, under the circumstances, that was reasoned.

What is different today, is that we are training people who not only turned against us more than a decade ago, we are funding them, and arming them.

While one type of activity described above is academically arguable with good points on each side, the other is clearly and completely traitorous.

This is a whole new ball game. Obama is effectively a part of their organizations, either wittingly, or by plan. And Congress sits by idly as he commits this treason.

Is there any good man who will stand up and out this for what it is?

Evidently not.


25 posted on 06/17/2014 10:31:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: fishtank
Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant

Levant => Eastern Mediterranean counties
from Turkey to Egypt. This includes Israel

Iraq (Babylon) and the Levant.
It is the re-creation of the Ancient Assyrian Empire.

The Assyrian Empire is the same as the
Eastern half of the Roman Empire.

The Assyrians were the first terrorists,
three to five millennia ago.

The Anti-Christ is "the Assyrian"
( Isaiah, Micah, Ezekiel ) .

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Levant
26 posted on 06/17/2014 10:31:56 AM PDT by Uriĺel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Genoa
If you buy into left wing conspiracy "analysis" of the US military, all imaginary theories of any kind are believable.
27 posted on 06/17/2014 10:32:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: detective

I certainly didn’t read every article or make any detailed study of what was going on in Syria during all the fighting. I never had a clear picture of who the various ‘rebel’ groups were, only that some were obviously very brutal and others maybe less so.

But now this article clearly says that US personnel were training some of the worst (ISIS) at several different locations. Now some of the trained terrorists are part of the attack on Iraq.

So, again we are left with the question: are Obama and his flunkies that inept and incompetent, or did they intentionally provide aide to terrorists they knew would be used against Iraq?


28 posted on 06/17/2014 10:32:49 AM PDT by Will88
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To: truth_seeker
Problem was their leadership.
The soldiers were Shia. The officers were Sunni and likely defected to or collaborated with ISIS, which is also Sunni.
29 posted on 06/17/2014 10:34:53 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: detective

Who could be surprised by this. We all knew that Obama has and continues to take the side of the rebel forces in the war in Syria. We all knew that this was a dangerous mix of terrorist groups and, I assume, a few real freedom fighters.

So what’s changed? Nothing. We still support the rebel forces in Syria which apparently include ISIS.

One might ask: Who’s side are we on? (Referring, of course, to that greater WE that we call Obama.)

I will answer: Whatever side the Sunnis are on. Birds of a feather, brotherhood, family ties. These all run deep.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 10:35:03 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Will88

Another question might be: Is WND making up unsourced nonsense in order to generate ad revenue on its site?


31 posted on 06/17/2014 10:35:20 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: detective

LOl.

We are truly the United States of Dork.


32 posted on 06/17/2014 10:35:59 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Genoa

Friendly rebel forces to overthrow Assad.


33 posted on 06/17/2014 10:39:03 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: truth_seeker

The enemy killing each other happened in battles of the Old Testament. I expect the same at Armageddon.


34 posted on 06/17/2014 10:40:54 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: fishtank

We are watching this Psalm 83 alliance move from the prophesy column, into the news column and it will be history soon.


35 posted on 06/17/2014 10:41:37 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Uri┬ĺel-2012

Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting.


36 posted on 06/17/2014 10:43:27 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: detective

Did ISIS promise not to use their training against Iraq? Maybe they should have their allowances taken away.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 10:44:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: wideawake

I thought Obama sent millions to Egypt when the Muslim Brotherhood was in power.


38 posted on 06/17/2014 10:44:43 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: detective

Congress is in on the islamist’s Treason with him.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 10:46:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: detective

0bama trains our enemies.


40 posted on 06/17/2014 10:46:46 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: detective

If there are any adults left in the Democrat Party, would you please go get your President and take him to Summer camp so he can make some pot holders. Thank-you.


41 posted on 06/17/2014 10:46:46 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: detective

So why were we trying to topple Syria?

So why were we trying to topple Libya?

So why were we trying to topple Egypt?

In every case the Islamists benefit.

Could it be that Obama wants Islamists to benefit?


42 posted on 06/17/2014 10:48:19 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: aimhigh
Apparently our new foreign policy is to train all the Arabs to kill each other.

If the muzzies would refrain from killing Christians and Jews, that might be OK.

43 posted on 06/17/2014 10:49:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Cold Heart
I thought Obama sent millions to Egypt when the Muslim Brotherhood was in power.

He unwisely did not suspend US aid to Egypt (which we have been giving for quite some time).

There is a difference between aid to a country and support for the democratically-elected political party that is in government.

No one can argue that the US Congress funded the Muslim Brotherhood as an organization.

44 posted on 06/17/2014 10:50:10 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: EBH

I Googled ISIS and found out things in two minutes that would make your hair stand right up on end, as my granny used to say.


45 posted on 06/17/2014 10:54:11 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: detective

Same with Los Zetas.
It sure would be nice if the government would spend less time training, funding and arming narco-terrorists and plain old terrorists like ISIS, and spend a little more time protecting us from them.


46 posted on 06/17/2014 10:56:20 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: wideawake
Another question might be: Is WND making up unsourced nonsense in order to generate ad revenue on its site?

And another question is whether some here have such a dislike for WND that they can't evaluate anything from that site objectively.

Stories of this sort of US involvement have been around since soon after the fighting in Syria started. And the article does use Der Spiegel and The Guardian as sources.

I seriously doubt WND would "make up" information of this sort to generate revenue. No one has the full story on US involvement in arming or training the 'rebels' in Syria, but I don't think very many doubt that there was some significant involvement.

47 posted on 06/17/2014 10:57:11 AM PDT by Will88
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To: detective

Did those Brand New Toyota Pickups also come from Obama ?


48 posted on 06/17/2014 10:58:45 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: detective

“The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.”

Morons!


49 posted on 06/17/2014 11:00:43 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Well, I did read a report that al-Qaida kicked them out for being too extreme.


50 posted on 06/17/2014 11:02:12 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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