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IRS email snafu ‘mind-boggling,’ says IT expert
Foxnews.com ^ | 6/17/2014 | James Rogers

Posted on 06/17/2014 11:23:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

The IRS’ inability to locate a trove of emails belonging to Lois Lerner, the former agency official at the center of the department’s targeting scandal is “mind-boggling,” according to an expert in electronic discovery.

Bruce Webster, who has served as a consulting and IT expert in more than 80 civil lawsuits, is astonished by the fact that the IRS could lose two years’ worth of emails.

“It is very well known in both legal and IT circles that as soon as litigation and/or criminal investigation is likely -- not actually initiated, but merely likely -- it is imperative to preserve any relevant electronic documents, even it if means suspending existing practices of, say, email deletion or purging of backup files,” he explained in an email to FoxNews.com.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dncrico; dojrico; emails; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; irsrico; irsscandals; itexpert; lerner; lerneremails; loislerner; obamarico

1 posted on 06/17/2014 11:23:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m guessing that: mind boggling = BS.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 11:24:21 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RoosterRedux

The 2 years of emails from Obama to Lerner


3 posted on 06/17/2014 11:26:05 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: RoosterRedux
IRS email snafu ‘mind-boggling,’ says IT expert

Well if you think about it long enough and concentrate on who gains most from the snafu then you mind will become unboggled.

4 posted on 06/17/2014 11:26:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RoosterRedux

Email servers are backed up.

Even if you nuked the server, a backup exists in another state.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 11:26:39 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: RoosterRedux

Its not hard to explain, they’re lying.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 11:27:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: RoosterRedux

The shriveled up old hag lied to protect her boss who ordered her to sic the irs on the normal people.


7 posted on 06/17/2014 11:28:10 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Mind boggling only in the idea that they think they can get away with it.

It’s mind boggling that the government has gotten so corrupt that they think no one will do anything about such a blatant in your face lie.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 11:29:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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We only need one honest IT guy in this administration to snowden these emails out of the backup systems.

The emails must be pretty damning for Team Obama to be willing to absorb the heat they're going to get for this obvious lie. How much are they going to have to pay Lerner to go to prison for a couple years and keep her mouth shut.

Just keep locking them up until somebody starts yapping.

AG Holder, begin the arrests! Oh. Crap.

9 posted on 06/17/2014 11:31:03 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RoosterRedux
“It is very well known in both legal and IT circles that as soon as litigation and/or criminal investigation is likely -- not actually initiated, but merely likely -- it is imperative to preserve any relevant electronic documents, even it if means suspending existing practices of, say, email deletion or purging of backup files,” he explained in an email to FoxNews.com.

The implicit assumption of this statement is that the evidence would exonerate you.

If the evidence convicts you, you might as well try to destroy as much of it as you can.

10 posted on 06/17/2014 11:32:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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They need to subpoena the IT guys. They have no dog in this fight and they won’t risk lying. If they were told to lose the emails that will come out. Nobody I know would do something like that without written instructions. (And, making their own backup.) Several times I printed out emails and took them home. I also wrote memos for the record, which are acceptable as evidence if written at the time of the occurrence.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 11:34:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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It's mindboggling that the head of the IRS is basically a functionary of the Obama everlasting campaign team.

They don't even bother to pretend that she's independent. She's gone to the mattresses with the family.

He put a political stooge as the head of the IRS. We should be storming the building with torches at this point.

12 posted on 06/17/2014 11:35:47 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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"In a court of law, that could be considered grounds for finding spoliation of evidence; in other words, even if the loss was inadvertent, it would be considered as deliberate destruction of evidence and sanctioned accordingly.”

This is very serious business and the sort of legal penalties that can be applied are potentially devastating. The organization for which I was email administrator for six years had me making archive tapes on the strength of newspaper stories. In any normal IT world, if the judge asks for it and you don't have it, you have a real problem. If the IRS is a special organization to which this does not apply then they are literally above the law.

13 posted on 06/17/2014 11:36:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Given that over 95% of the criminal activity surrounding the suppression of Republican votes over at the IRS CONSISTS OF A HAREM OF FEMALES, I'M BETTING THE WORST IRS EMAILS FROM LOIS LERNER INVOLVE VALERIE JARRETT!!!


14 posted on 06/17/2014 11:39:55 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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I still want to know if anyone has checked hitlary’s closet.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 11:39:58 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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16 posted on 06/17/2014 11:42:25 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: RoosterRedux
astonished by the fact that the IRS could lose two years’ worth of emails

Oh, com'on, Bruce.

It's not a "fact".

It's a lie.

17 posted on 06/17/2014 11:43:46 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Mr Lacey is retired military and we have a friend who retired from the IRS. Once we were talking about congressional inquiries/letters from a congressman or senator from a constituent about one thing or another. Mr Lacey was required to drop everything and submit a response within 24 hours. Our IRS friend laughed and said “We just threw those things in the trash!”.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 11:46:34 AM PDT by Lacey
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To: Gen.Blather
They need to subpoena the IT guys.

They need to subpoena the vendor that sold the IRS the storage arrays and the software that takes snapshots and clones of the email server farms. Get someone to tell Congress how their system works and why this is an obvious lie. ILM, properly applied would not allow this to happen.

Unless there exists a program that can be initiated to delete targeted data when it becomes necessary...or convenient. If that's the case then another email trail exists that would expose it.

19 posted on 06/17/2014 11:58:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: RoosterRedux

It is long past time to create a permanent office of Independent Prosecutor in this country. It’s scope would be limited to crimes against the constitution and the states rights perpetrated by government officials of any branch. It’s investigations could only begin by a majority vote of both houses of congress, a unanimous vote of the Supreme Court or a vote of 40% of the state governments. The executive branch would not be able to invoke the IP as it has control of the Justice dept and is already able to investigate such crimes unilaterally. Once an IP case is opened all Justice Dept. activity re the same or related crimes must be suspended unless congress authorizes the use of their resources.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 12:02:21 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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Lets have a hearing.

Witness list:

1. Fellow who first discovered ‘crashed’ computer.
2. That guy’s boss
3. Etc.

How can they get away with a press release saying the dog ate their homework? No...let individuals lie about it under oath.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 12:44:45 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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22 posted on 06/17/2014 12:50:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: RoosterRedux

There is nothing mind-boggling about these emails disappearing. It’s straightforward lies and corruption, which have become routine over the past five terrible years since we left the rule of law behind.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 1:08:26 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: RoosterRedux

An IT expert thinks he knows more about computers than Obama? I think not!


24 posted on 06/17/2014 5:54:13 PM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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